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Tait TP9800 multiband

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Looking at the variety of multi bands soon to be available, it’s a great time to be in the market! I will say that I prefer the Harris and then either the Tait or the Kenwood just from a design perspective. I’m not a fan of the screen and keypad on one side and the primary speaker on the other like the APX8000 and it looks like BK went the same way. I guess all the M folks are used to it, but it just isn’t natural to me.

I’m also not interested in a touchscreen solution like the Next. I prefer a radio that feels and acts like a radio. I’ve had rugged, ‘glove friendly’ phones before and I don’t want those ‘ergonomics’ in a radio. I don’t want a massive blinding screen and I don’t want a mission critical device that runs android. Android is a fine platform for a phone but I just prefer a more bespoke software solution for my radio. Maybe I’m just old fashioned.

Another thing that’s left to be seen is the how friendly each platform is to multi vocational folks… IME it’s somewhat more straightforward when the device is dedicated to a single use case, like police OR fire OR business etc., but I’m in a situation where I use my radios commercially on V/U for my primary work, with SAR on V/7/8, some disaster relief on all bands, and as a ham (for fun and we use ham repeaters heavily for SAR ops…). I suspect it’ll take some time to find the pros and cons of each platform as it pertains to users like myself.

Exciting times!!

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If you are thinking of the limitation on the Kenwood NX-5000 line, my understanding from Kenwood was that it's a memory issue. It isn't that the radio won't do it, just not enough memory. Why they did that, I don't know, seems short sighted. Memory, after all, is relatively cheap.

Hopefully Tait and EFJK learned and won't make that same mistake.

What exactly are you referring to here? Kenwood Does do P25/DMR/Analog on the NX-5000 line. Just shut off NXDN.
 

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What exactly are you referring to here? Kenwood Does do P25/DMR/Analog on the NX-5000 line. Just shut off NXDN.
Right, but you can’t work all four modes at the same time. You can only have three of them on at any given time (Analog, DMR, plus NXDN OR P25). It’s not a massive issue, but it does limit the feature set for multi vocational users.

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What exactly are you referring to here? Kenwood Does do P25/DMR/Analog on the NX-5000 line. Just shut off NXDN.

I was replying to BMDaug's question about if the radio would do DMR and P25 at the same time.
Kenwood has the limitation of only running 2 of the 3 digital modes at once. Sure, you can just not use one of the modes. I, however, have applications where I using all 3 would be helpful. But that's likely an outlier compared to most users and I doubt it is a real problem in the LMR world.
 

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The pricing for the Tait TP9800, with all band, and Phase II seems to be considerably less than $6,000. I just got a quote at under $3,500 per unit, with chassis, antenna, battery, charger, VHF, UHF R1, UHF R2, 7/800, while I am pricing out replacing portables for my fire company, so they have interoperability.
 

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The pricing for the Tait TP9800, with all band, and Phase II seems to be considerably less than $6,000. I just got a quote at under $3,500 per unit, with chassis, antenna, battery, charger, VHF, UHF R1, UHF R2, 7/800, while I am pricing out replacing portables for my fire company, so they have interoperability.
Care to name the vendor? If DMR support is indeed actually coming soon like they say, I’ll burn all my Moto gear selling on grey market and switch in a heartbeat.
 

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Care to name the vendor? If DMR support is indeed actually coming soon like they say, I’ll burn all my Moto gear selling on grey market and switch in a heartbeat.

I cannot share the vendor without asking them directly if I can, I need to work with them regularly. It however exists in a PDF on my desktop.

I have no idea if there is DMR support, I never asked, it is not something we need. The Kenwood 8000 has Phase 1, Phase 2, DMR Tier 1 and Tier 2, in an all band portable. At the moment I am weighing the Kenwood vs Tait. As odd as it sounds, Tait's mobile charger has me fascinated, it is brilliant for emergency apparatus.
 

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The pricing for the Tait TP9800, with all band, and Phase II seems to be considerably less than $6,000. I just got a quote at under $3,500 per unit, with chassis, antenna, battery, charger, VHF, UHF R1, UHF R2, 7/800, while I am pricing out replacing portables for my fire company, so they have interoperability.
Can you clarify that the $3500 quote is for analog only, and (if you know) how the additional protocols are priced? Approximately how many radios?
 

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Can you clarify that the $3500 quote is for analog only, and (if you know) how the additional protocols are priced? Approximately how many radios?


The quote is for chassis (in safety green casing, which is an extra $40 per unit), battery, all band antenna, configured for VHF, UHF R1, UHF R2, 700, 800, Phase 1, Phase 2, OTAR , with desktop rapid charger. For 30 radios.
 

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Pics, details links?

The photo in no way does it's design and function justice. I can't find anything on YouTube ... how is this not on YouTube?

 

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Pages nine and 12 of the manual at least let you imagine the mechanics of the charger… It seems really secure. Perfect for an off-road vehicle or even something like a side-by-side or ATV.

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Pages nine and 12 of the manual at least let you imagine the mechanics of the charger… It seems really secure. Perfect for an off-road vehicle or even something like a side-by-side or ATV.

-B

Makes a lot of sense. I like the design. Keeping the radio from bouncing around would be a big improvement over other designs.

I have a PowerProducts mobile charger in the work truck. Works well enough, but uses a bungee type retainer strap for the radio.
I have a Kenwood mobile charger. Much nicer, but pretty big.
 

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Makes a lot of sense. I like the design. Keeping the radio from bouncing around would be a big improvement over other designs.

I have a PowerProducts mobile charger in the work truck. Works well enough, but uses a bungee type retainer strap for the radio.
I have a Kenwood mobile charger. Much nicer, but pretty big.

The Tait charger is compact, in terms of a mobile charger. It goes fairly flat against the surface. you can mount it in unconventional locations because of the design and the radio will stay securely in the charger no matter how it is mounted.
 

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The photo in no way does it's design and function justice. I can't find anything on YouTube ... how is this not on YouTube?


Here you go.

Tait T03-00014-BAAA
 
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