The Storm Chasers Return to Tornado Alley!

[rdale]

So because it never happened in the past, that means it can't or won't happen in the future?

No, but it certainly reduces the odds greatly. I watched a movie last week where the husband had an affair. Does that mean I'm going to have an affair? No. Should we ban those movies since it's immoral? No.

Tomorrow when you go to work at your TV station, tell your General Manager to take down all the fire extinguishers. Your station has never burnt down, so why worry about it now?

Well, to start with, my office is at the Sheriff's Department. Next, I will show you cases where TV stations _have_ burned down. It has happened in the past around the country, and will happen again. So fire extinguishers are necessary.

I don't see any cases of Joe Sixpack watching Stormchasers and driving into an F5.

 

[N0IU]

Well, to start with, my office is at the Sheriff's Department.

I'm sorry. Your profile says you are a TV meteorologist so I assumed it was still correct.

Next, I will show you cases where TV stations _have_ burned down. It has happened in the past around the country, and will happen again. So fire extinguishers are necessary.

I think you are finally starting to get it. Having fire extinguishers is called being proactive instead of reactive.

I don't see any cases of Joe Sixpack watching Stormchasers and driving into an F5.

So it NEVER happened because YOU aren't aware of it happening?

Well it is obviously time to unsubscribe from this thread!

 

[rdale]

I think you are finally starting to get it. Having fire extinguishers is called being proactive instead of reactive.

I got it from your first post... You want to ban broadcasts that have dangerous behavior in them, because people might duplicate it. I'm of the opinion that you make shows and explain that it's dangerous behavior, and if some idiot decides to duplicate it then so be it. That's not my fault.

Requiring fire extinguishers in commercial buildings is not the same as banning storm chaser shows. What shows would be acceptable to you? How about a show that tracks a climb on Mt Everest? No, because Joe Sixpack might fly over and try. Okay, what about police chase shows? No, because Joe might try to outrun the cops after watching. So You Think You Can Dance? Ban it because someone might try to duplicate some moves and hurt himself. Survivor? Axe it - Joe might head to the hills and try it on his own and die.

Get the point now? You can only treat society at the lowest common level for so long before you ban everything.

 

[N0IU]

I got it from your first post... You want to ban broadcasts that have dangerous behavior in them, because people might duplicate it.

The first thing you need to do if you want anyone to take you seriously is get your facts straight and not put words into other people's mouths (or posts). I am in Missouri, so you need to SHOW ME where I said that I wanted to ban shows with "dangerous" content. For someone who is (or was) in broadcast journalism, didn't anyone teach you about being accurate in your reporting or did they just teach you that it was OK to make stuff up as you go along?

 

[rdale]

I am in Missouri, so you need to SHOW ME where I said that I wanted to ban shows with "dangerous" content.

This whole thread turned off topic when some said that this should be banned. You jumped in and said that "may be a bit extreme." Well, I think it's way too far extreme.

For someone who is (or was) in broadcast journalism

I'm not now, nor have I ever been a broadcast journalist. I am a meteorologist. Never a journalist. But I'm not sure I get the point. Did you say "banning the show would be wrong" or banning the show "may be a bit extreme"? Did you say that your worry is Joe Sixpack will jump into his car, hit an EF5, and die because of this show?

 

[N0IU]

Like everyone else here, you are entitled to your opinion and I certainly respect that. What I take great offense to is when someone attributes a quote to me that I never said. Thank goodness this is only an Internet forum and not "real" journalism because things like that get people in a lot of trouble!

 

[rdale]

What I take great offense to is when someone attributes a quote to me that I never said.

Hmmm... seems like it came from you.

I think that canceling the show may be a bit extreme

My apologies if someone hacked into your account and posted that without your knowledge.

 

[N0IU]

WHOA!!!!! I know this will lock this thread and probably result in an infraction for me, but I have to settle this...

I think that canceling the show may be a bit extreme

No one hacked my account. Of course I said that and I still believe it.

But in a later post, you replied to a quote with my name by saying:

You want to ban broadcasts that have dangerous behavior in them

When I asked you to show me where I said that, you tap danced around this issue and tried to turn it back on me while never actually showing me where I said that I wanted to ban those broadcasts!

You may not believe something unless you read it on an Internet forum, but it is because of things like this is exactly why I do not!

 

[rdale]

When I asked you to show me where I said that, you tap danced around this issue and tried to turn it back on me

You are the one that has no problem banning the show. My point is there is ABSOLUTELY NO REASON to ban the show. Take that back to your journalism class and run with it...

 

[N0IU]

You are the one that has no problem banning the show.

I will do your homework for you just this once since apparently you are so focused on pinning this issue on me that you have no interest in the actual facts. Some of the other people here might be, so for their benefit:

This show should be canceled because of the dangerous behavior it promotes.

...my office is at the Sheriff's Department.

I just hope I never have to drive through Lansing because if you are typical of the type of people who work in the sheriff's office, I hate to think of what would happen if I get pulled over!

 

[rdale]

If you get pulled over, it's because you broke the law. So I would hate to think what happens too.

I didn't pin it on you. I said you were okay with it. As you posted above. Do your own homework, or take this offline.

Well, don't take it offline either because I don't care what you think. This show won't get people killed, and should not be banned under any circumstance.

 

[Secret_Squirrel]

So why would a meteorologist work at the Sheriff's Department? Hmmm....

Oh, and I see you haven't changed any rdale. It's nice to know some things never do.

 

[N0IU]

The ignore list just keeps growing...

 

[rdale]

So why would a meteorologist work at the Sheriff's Department?

Maybe I have more than one area of education... Hmmm....

Oh, and I see you haven't changed any rdale.

Nope. I went through this with Twister, where people jumped up and down saying the movie should be banned, and that hundreds would die trying to emulate it.

Except that number turned out to be zero deaths.

So when people talk about banning storm chasing, or storm chasing shows, then I'll defend it.

 

[KC9NCF]

I see a lot of good points being made by both sides of the discussion. On the topic of giving a warning about the scenes depicted, Mr. Vince McMahon of the old WWF, now the WWE did something good to prevent his corporation from liability in cases of fan emulation:

He put on a full one minute or so warning on ALL of the discs he markets that explains Wrestling to be for entertainment, but the hazards of the stunts are real. This includes his wrestler's voices talking about how badly they had been injured, or how bad off they thought they were. This included some scenes of wrestler's who had actually been hurt in the performance of their stunts.

A disclaimer of this sort should be included with these weather shows. Why? Unfortunately, one only need to visit Hamsexy to see! People see all the blinking, moving light shows used in these programs and then they go install lights on their vehicles and go out on the road, possibly endangering REAL emergency responders and the public around them. It's gotta stop!

 

[rdale]

A disclaimer of this sort should be included with these weather shows

So you're saying that if a disclaimer was added, none of the stuff on hamsexy would happen? That's shockingly naive.

 

[SCPD]

A disclaimer of this sort should be included with these weather shows. Why? Unfortunately, one only need to visit Hamsexy to see! People see all the blinking, moving light shows used in these programs and then they go install lights on their vehicles and go out on the road, possibly endangering REAL emergency responders and the public around them. It's gotta stop!

STORM CHASERS, the TV show, HAS A DISCLAIMER!!!

TV shows like storm chasers don't lead to whacking. It's cop wannabes how aren't smart enough to be police officers that lead to whackers not TV show.

 

[SCPD]

Where did I post that the car was unsafe because it is raining hard?

I did not, you ASSUMED that.

What I said was that I abandoned the car in a driving rain because the culvert was SAFER. That decision was the smart thing to do yet you have insulted ME based on YOUR assumption.

YOU started this exchange because YOU posted that I was "f'ing dumb" for trying to stay alive by seeking safer shelter. Why say that to someone if you do NOT know everything related to the story? You ASSUMED that my decision was in poor judgement. Instead of lashing out at me, why did you not simply ASK, "Why would you abandon a car in the rain to get into a culvert?" That would have led to a courteous response, explaining the entire situation. No, you had to puff yourself up and toss out an insult that was TOTALLY unneeded. The insult did not make you appear more intellegent or more experienced. It actually demeaned your intellect by putting on display a rash ill-considered response.

Now, your indignant reply to my response comes across a little bit hollow.

YOU injected yourself into an exchange where you were not originally involved and made a poor judgement based on your OWN asumptions. And, now, I am the one who needs to "get my story straight"?

Maybe you need to make sure you have all the facts before you start pecking away at your keyboard.

So, if you don't know the facts, ask. If you don't want to know the facts, why post?

I'm sorry I made a conclusion on YOUR POST. The way YOU put your story it made it sound like YOU left your car because it was raining too hard.
When the next time I see you post, before making a comment or using my brain to think, I will ask you exactly what you mean and for the full 'facts' of YOUR OWN STORY.
Next time put everything in your story. Hell I wasn't the only one who thought that.
Next time use spell check so I don't have to click ignore four times.

 

[poppafred]

I'm sorry I made a conclusion on YOUR POST. The way YOU put your story it made it sound like YOU left your car because it was raining too hard.

No, I didn't.

Read the sentence again.

I abandoned the car IN a driving rain. I didn't abandon the car BECAUSE of the driving rain.

Two different words with two different meanings.

Where am I loosing you here?

When the next time I see you post, before making a comment or using my brain to think, I will ask you exactly what you mean and for the full 'facts' of YOUR OWN STORY.
Next time put everything in your story. Hell I wasn't the only one who thought that.
Next time use spell check so I don't have to click ignore four times.

Sorry, didn't mean to overwork your poor finger because of words not in your dictionary. Try the Google toolbar spell checker, its vocabulary is larger.

You may not have been the only one that thought that, but you were the only one who posted insulting remarks because of it.

It doesn't matter where you are from, calling someone "F'n dumb" and "stupid" are not usually considered a good way to make friends. I don't believe I have ever insulted you in the past. At least not that I can remember. I don't think we have ever even exchanged posts before. Yet, you tossed both insults into your post because.....you could? It made you feel more intelligent to insult a total stranger? You had a bad day? Have you ever just drawn back and kicked your dog?

Abraham Lincoln once said, "Be careful when you argue with a fool. Before long, observers can't tell the difference between the participants."

And please, never stop using your brain to think. I cannot imagine what your posts would sound like if you did.

I am completely done with this thread.

 

[SCPD]

Sorry, didn't mean to overwork your poor finger because of words not in your dictionary. Try the Google toolbar spell checker, its vocabulary is larger.

Use the one that says ABC and has a check mark above the smilies.

It doesn't matter where you are from, calling someone "F'n dumb" and "stupid" are not usually considered a good way to make friends.

Not here to make friends.

Abraham Lincoln once said, "Be careful when you argue with a fool. Before long, observers can't a the difference between the participants."

Why the hell are people on this website quoting dead presidents lately. See a lot of quotes from Lincoln and Jefferson. I guess people can't use their own words. You forgot to cite where you got that quote from.

I am completely done with this thread.

Yeah now rdale and the other guy can finish their tussle.