The Storm Chasers Return to Tornado Alley!

[N0IU]

Yeah now rdale and the other guy can finish their tussle.

I am "the other guy" and rdale and I are done because he is on my ignore list and I have no idea what he is posting about any more.

And I think it might have been Mark Twain who said, "Never argue with a fool. They will bring you down to their level then beat you with experience!"

 

[SCPD]

I am "the other guy"

Sorry for calling you the other guy.
Thanks for clarifying that quote. It look like he got it wrong.
Looks like he is the fool

 

[N0IU]

Sorry for calling you the other guy.
Thanks for clarifying that quote. It look like he got it wrong.
Looks like he is the fool

Apology accepted!

Actually I wasn't clarifying poppafred's quote. He got his quote right. The one I posted was just another one about fools!

As far as him looking like a fool, I am also reminded of the quote, "Better to have people think of you as a fool than to open your mouth (or type something on an Internet forum) and remove all doubt!"

If you want me to cite the origins of that quote, most people believe it came from the Bible in the Book of Proverbs, Chapter 17 Verse 28 which goes, "Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: and he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding."

KG4WHM, I really think you should probably stop typing now before you dig yourself any deeper!

 

[kadetklapp]

TIV2 is back on the road again. I guess it's no longer 6 wheel drive? Bummer.

Still, it's lasted longer on the road this episode than in previous ones.

 

[sgtmatt]

Seems that Dr. Warmun has made a return too.

 

[rdale]

It's not that he was "gone" -- but he had to prepare for Vortex 2.

 

[LouisvilleScanMan]

Yes, for God's sake, let's get back on topic. Why does the TWISTEX crew have full size base ground plane antennas on their vehicles?

 

[kadetklapp]

I want to know how "Twistex" funds this project. He has no official affiliation does he? Must just have nothing better to do with his money.

He's running Yaesu radios by the looks of things, at least in his Denali.

 

[LouisvilleScanMan]

The radios in the mesonet cars are Yaesu as well, I can tell by the mics. Probably on business band or MURS, never hear a call sign and by the way he was cussing on the radio last night I doubt it's on ham freqs.

 

[rdale]

I want to know how "Twistex" funds this project. He has no official affiliation does he? Must just have nothing better to do with his money.

He's a well-known engineer, so while he chases because he wants to - it also results in money from related ventures.

ThunderChase.com - Home

 

[jaymatt1978]

A little disclaimer, I'm not ARGUING here, I'm just expanding on a conversation. They CAN'T use the ham bands because what they're doing is a commercial venture and that's a no-no on the ham bands. The radios are more than likely unlicensed and you'll havea hard time finding the frequencies!

The radios in the mesonet cars are Yaesu as well, I can tell by the mics. Probably on business band or MURS, never hear a call sign and by the way he was cussing on the radio last night I doubt it's on ham freqs.

 

[rdale]

But the mesonet is not a business. Just because they are being filmed doesn't make it a no-no unless I'm missing something. If the Discovery crew used it, then yes you have an issue, but I'm not sure that the chasers would be banned from ham.

 

[KB9LIQ]

They are out chasing tornado's for fun first but he is selling his video's so any use of ham radio is wrong, If they are using radios unlicensed then maybe the FCC will stop by sometime and address this but I'm not holding my breath

 

[burner50]

They are out chasing tornado's for fun first but he is selling his video's so any use of ham radio is wrong, If they are using radios unlicensed then maybe the FCC will stop by sometime and address this but I'm not holding my breath

But the primary purpose for the footage is research.

 

[rdale]

They are out chasing tornado's for fun first but he is selling his video's so any use of ham radio is wrong

I'd lay extremely large odds that given the radios we've seen in their cars - they aren't using ham radios.

If they are using radios unlicensed

Given all the time, money, effort, money and money they put into this - I find it hard to believe they'd communicate illegally let alone on national TV.

But the primary purpose for the footage is research.

That's not true. That's what his radar and model plane are for. There's not really much we get for research from video.

 

[KB9LIQ]

I believe I said IF they were using unlicensed radio, I don't know if they do our not. And if they have any pecuniary interest then they can't use ham radio while doing it. So Jason it doesn't matter if they use any of the footage for research they also make money with it or are being paid to film it for research. Ham rules are clear in this point. Read the ham radio rules.

 

[rdale]

I'm not sure that's true... Many weather chasers are getting paid (I did it as part of my "regular" job) and I don't think that's prohibited.

Well, let me rephrase that, it may be - but nobody cares

 

[acepilot340]

I don't have my license, but I know that swearing over the waves is frowned upon; but I would like to know what it is they are 'bleeeping' out because it seems discovery is making them act a lot more vulgar than they really are just to add to the 'tension'. Either way they shouldn't be swearing over any band, CB, MURS, GMRS,FRS, HAM....

 

[N0IU]

...I would like to know what it is they are 'bleeeping' out because it seems discovery is making them act a lot more vulgar than they really are just to add to the 'tension'.

Congratulations! You are finally catching on the the fact that this program is first and foremost for ENTERTAINMENT and not science! What you are watching is only the "interesting" stuff they have edited out of the hundreds (or more) of hours of video they shoot for the show. As I said earlier (or maybe it was in another post), if you were to actually ride along with a chase crew for any length of time, you would probably be bored to tears. If they showed you the hundreds or even thousands of miles they drive and see absolutely nothing, no one would watch and it is really tough to sell advertising on a program when no one is watching!

 

[AK9R]

I'm not sure that's true... Many weather chasers are getting paid (I did it as part of my "regular" job) and I don't think that's prohibited.

Well, let me rephrase that, it may be - but nobody cares

Rob, the FCC rules for amateur radio very clearly prohibit business use of amateur radio. I'll quote from Title 47 CFR 97.113:

(a) No amateur station shall transmit:
(2) Communications for hire or for material compensation, direct or indirect, paid or promised, except as otherwise provided in these rules;
(3) Communications in which the station licensee or control operator has a pecuniary interest, including communications on behalf of an employer.

And, yes, the FCC cares. Recent statements by the FCC regarding communications on behalf of an employer are causing a bit of a stink (see 97.113 Journal - N5FDL Amateur Radio).

However, as you indicate, discussions of amateur radio use by the people in this television program are moot. I have seen no indication that they are using amateur radio. I do find their communications "problems" to be somewhat comical, though. All that "high-tech" equipment, yet they can't seem to communicate over even short distances.