Trunking with what scanner?

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Between 2005 and 2008, the FCC is reconfiguring (or rebanding) the 800 MHz band in order to prevent dangerous interference and "dead zones" for public safety radio. Scanners which have pre-programmed service bands will therefore no longer be scanning the proper frequencies for those services. This will cause significant issues for scanner enthusiasts in the short term; however, in the long run, the process will result in clear scanning of the public safety and other bands, as interference will be minimized. In addition to the public safety frequencies, the trunked systems (such as EDACS, Motorola and Nextel) are also being moved.

The first change in frequencies is currently expected to occur in Spring 2006.

Over the years, more and more users and required uses have crammed more and more active frequencies into the 800 MHz frequency band. Presently, commercial radio and public safety radio operate in the same or adjacent frequency bands. This has led to more and more problems with interference between commercial radio and public safety radio. These problems included "dead zones" in which public safety radios could not operate. Obviously, this creates the potential for situations where public safety departments are unable to communicate when they most need to, in life-threatening situations.

As per the Transition Administration website: "Many 800 MHz systems, including public safety, CII, B/ILT, and commercial SMR systems operating in the 800 MHz Band will be required to relocate. Licensees in the 809-815/854-860 MHz Band are not required to relocate."

The organization in charge of implementing the rebanding is the 800 MHz Transition Authority. This consortium of companies and government entities has a website at http://www.800ta.org.
 
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The bct 8 is a great scanner for the cost. I use one in our kitchen when I am out of the radio room. I think the bct8 will support rebanding should it happen here in a couple years. I believe there were reviews in several of the radio mags of it.
 

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Rebanding the big question does anyone know what will work and what will not work. I belive the answer to this, changes on a day to day thing. so i guess we must just stand by with our money.
 

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The Pro 97 can be rebandeded from what I read. So that is not an issue I hope. I am confused by one thing. On Radionorthwest I read that Seattle is either now encrypted digital or will be completely soon. So if you are in Wa like myself. The 97 is a better choice. The Wa digital stuff will mostly be encrypted. Save your money for future upgraded radios I would advise!
 

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radio shack has stated that the 97 will need to be replaced as it will not do the reband thing with out a cpu replacment as i own a 97, I hope that you are right, but radio shack has stated that the pro-97 made by grc will need replacement. And given that all 97 are made by grc i belive that replament will be needed, i belive they said that the cost will be around $50.00........
 
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The information link for the 97 says it will be a return to RS for rebanding. This article states the process probably to be used,
PRO-97 & Rebanding
Posted on 09/30/2005 16:15 EDT

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Our thanks to the "GRE Digital Scanner Design Team" for providing the following news item about RadioShack's PRO-97 and how it will my handle the 800 MHz rebanding issue:
RadioShack is continually staying abreast of the 800MHz rebanding program. We consult with industry experts regularly and are keeping a close eye on the progress of the entire rebanding effort.
Since complete details of the Motorola rebanded trunking channel plan are not yet available it is now obvious that no one can confirm for certain that any scanner can be updated or adapted after rebanding. Once the first fully rebanded systems are activated we will be in a much better position to assess the impact on our 800 MHz scanning receivers. Here is what we do know:

It is likely that Motorola systems with channels currently between 851-861 MHz will still function in the PRO-97 after rebanding is finished.
LTR and EDACS 800 MHz functionality should not be affected - just program new frequencies as they are changed in the system.
The PRO-97 as currently designed will probably NOT be able to handle the new bandplan for Motorola systems that are currently operating with some or all of their system channels between 866-869 MHz. These frequencies will be relocated 15 MHz down to 851-854 MHz, which requires a new 800 MHz trunking bandplan in Motorola trunked radio systems. That bandplan will not be known until Motorola installs their first few systems and we (all) get a change to see what they are doing. The 800 MHz trunking bandplan is hard coded into the radio's firmware, and cannot be changed by the end user.
If the new bandplan cannot be trunked with the PRO-97's existing hardware, RadioShack (like everyone else) would need to design new firmware (and possibly a revised hardware design). Twice in the past, RadioShack has offered a board swap program to update an existing scanner to new, improved, specifications. In those cases, there was no charge for the new board (old board must be returned) and RadioShack paid shipping both ways if the customer carried the scanner into a local store. There was a minimum service charge $39.99 and the board exchange was only done at our Fort Worth Service facility.
Again, let us remind everyone this is what we've done in the past - the actual details of any update program have NOT yet been determined, but we expect it will be along these lines.
 

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Can you post the link to the GRE page that has this post, or the web page that you got this post from.

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Rebanding Question, Is there a published listing of the programable scanners that are capabable of being reconfigured after the rebanding of the 800 Mhz? If so where would it be? and is there a cost from the mfg.? Thanks. R
 

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Not that i know of, you should read the rebanding form on this web site. know no one realy knows till thay start, radio shack had said that the pro-96 & 2096 would be able to work with rebanding on there web site but that statement has been removed from there web page, the short answer as far as i know, is that no one knows. i will check around and repost here if i find anything different
 
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