Well today we officially hit the 11 month mark since the x36 announcement. One more month to go for the one year anniversary. Can they beat it. The clock is ticking, LOL
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that would be my guess based on the 1+1 in Upmans Avatar
HP-2 with Phase 2 etc... lets hope a built in GPS as well !!
HP-2 with Phase 2 etc... lets hope a built in GPS as well !!
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If Uniden releases a HP2, that would tick off a whole bunch of x36HP owners. A new HP2 would mean Uniden's been working on that rather than fix the x36HP's. A new HP2 at this point in time would be a bad idea. Would anyone even buy a HP2 knowing what happened with the current x36HP's. I sure wouldn't.
"Come buy our new HP2. It's missing the screen and no antenna port. It may or may not come with a SD card. The built-in GPS won't work out of the box because our vendor hasn't released a stable firmware. All the missing stuff will be fixed with a firmware update to come next few month, but only when your scanner is out if it's return window of time"
"Come buy our new HP2. It's missing the screen and no antenna port. It may or may not come with a SD card. The built-in GPS won't work out of the box because our vendor hasn't released a stable firmware. All the missing stuff will be fixed with a firmware update to come next few month, but only when your scanner is out if it's return window of time"
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You can count me in that list. If I see an announcement for an HP-2 before I get analyze for my 436, I'll sell it and never buy another Uniden.
LOL!!
After the train wreck the x36 roll out turned out to be (and still continues to be), this sounds about right for Uniden.
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Maybe we're all wrong and Paul's "1+1" avatar means he's working on Uniden's newest model - the first scanner with a built in calculator.
Seriously, all the conjecture and speculation is enough to make my head spin. Then the haters go the extra mile and throw in their two cents on top of that. Sigh.
Sure, I'm surprised to see it take Uniden this long to create a firmware update, but I'm even more surprised at the vitriol STILL being flung at Uniden (and more specifically Paul) by many members of this site on a near constant basis. This is the thanks he gets for designing a truly revolutionary scanner while the competition's brightest idea so far is to rebrand the same units they were selling 5+ years ago? And did I read right that RS/Whistler raised the price too? What's up with that?
I truly don't get it gang. At least Uniden is TRYING to innovate instead of just cranking out more of the same thing we already could have bought years ago. Do you really think the GRE scanners would have become such great trunktrackers were it not for Uniden applying the pressure to keep up? Without guys like Paul we'd still be sitting on trunked systems in conventional mode hitting SCAN all the time - remember those days? I think it's time the guy got a little respect around here. Just sayin'.
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Seriously, all the conjecture and speculation is enough to make my head spin. Then the haters go the extra mile and throw in their two cents on top of that. Sigh.
Sure, I'm surprised to see it take Uniden this long to create a firmware update, but I'm even more surprised at the vitriol STILL being flung at Uniden (and more specifically Paul) by many members of this site on a near constant basis. This is the thanks he gets for designing a truly revolutionary scanner while the competition's brightest idea so far is to rebrand the same units they were selling 5+ years ago? And did I read right that RS/Whistler raised the price too? What's up with that?
I truly don't get it gang. At least Uniden is TRYING to innovate instead of just cranking out more of the same thing we already could have bought years ago. Do you really think the GRE scanners would have become such great trunktrackers were it not for Uniden applying the pressure to keep up? Without guys like Paul we'd still be sitting on trunked systems in conventional mode hitting SCAN all the time - remember those days? I think it's time the guy got a little respect around here. Just sayin'.
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The venting of frustration is only stirred up once a month by the subtle hints Paul drops on a regular basis...self generated hate mail. On the other hand, if nothing else, he's able to keep people posting about Uniden... It may not all be good but the numbers keep climbing.
Uniden could make some folks happy with a firmware update addressing at least a couple of minor things...but instead the only thing we've seen are "be patient" and other things just get people fired up (1+1)
Uniden could make some folks happy with a firmware update addressing at least a couple of minor things...but instead the only thing we've seen are "be patient" and other things just get people fired up (1+1)
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At this point in time the x36HP's are not "innovated" scanners vs. the x96XT's.
The x36HPs have TDMA II and record feature over their 5 year old XT line. Hardly innovation. GRE's rebranded 5 year old designs are still superior for TDMA II. Uniden's x36HP's don't even work on non Motorola TDMA II systems properly, but a 5 year old GRE scanner can.
It boils down to some people are happy being scammed, lied to and don't care. Others don't like the "dog and pony" show Uniden has been putting on since day 1.
Not one single missing feature has been addressed or fixed since the x36HP's were released well over 9 months ago. Hardly innovation if you ask me... Bait and switch maybe....
The x36HPs have TDMA II and record feature over their 5 year old XT line. Hardly innovation. GRE's rebranded 5 year old designs are still superior for TDMA II. Uniden's x36HP's don't even work on non Motorola TDMA II systems properly, but a 5 year old GRE scanner can.
It boils down to some people are happy being scammed, lied to and don't care. Others don't like the "dog and pony" show Uniden has been putting on since day 1.
Not one single missing feature has been addressed or fixed since the x36HP's were released well over 9 months ago. Hardly innovation if you ask me... Bait and switch maybe....
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#1 - he didn't design the scanner himself. He's a product manager, he may give input as far as what he would like to see, and what he sees people in online forums wanting, but it's by no means the "Opitz BCDx36HP" line of scanners, let's just be honest about that.
#2 - Whistler bought the designs from a company that went out of business. Why would they come out of the gate with something brand new (and sit on designs that people will stay pay money for), when they can get product right back out to the consumer and see what people still want/don't want? "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" comes to mind. I'm sure 2014 has been a year for them to test new designs and ideas and I'm sure we'll see something in the next year or so. Your product is worth what people are willing to pay for. So if you can raise your price because Uniden dropped the ball with the multiple issues affecting the x36 line (Siren, static in the headphones, no Analyze, etc), why not?
I'm not a Uniden hater by any means, and have always preferred their ease of use over sometimes very perceivable digital quality of the old RS line. I am just someone who would like to get what they paid for.
Using the words innovation and Whistler in the same sentence are, well ridiculous.
Unless you are into cheap and mainly useless radar detectors, their entire product line is the anti-thesis of innovative.
Hopefully the do continue to develop their GRE aqqusition, but I would not bet the farm on it.
Unless you are into cheap and mainly useless radar detectors, their entire product line is the anti-thesis of innovative.
Hopefully the do continue to develop their GRE aqqusition, but I would not bet the farm on it.
I own a HP1, Love it but recently my Local FD went to Paging via their Motorola Trunked 800 System and I hear no Paging Tones or Voice now. Can that be heard on a HomePatrol.
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They can try all they want but in order to be innovative it has to work. Sure they released some great scanners in the past but as we all know, people will remember this mess for some time. It has already impacted hard core Uniden followers. No longer will they rush out to buy the latest release until it is proven by others that it actually does what it's suppose too. Even if a HP-2 was released, I don't see the record sales that they would have gotten if the x36HP's had done what they were originally designed for. I'm sure Uniden will throw out a bone (firmware) to settle some of the followers to allow them more time. Even if they fixed all the problems the damage is already done.
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Whistler, Uniden, Cobra radar detectors are all pretty much all cheap junk. All 3 have terrible Ka pickup range. Nowadays, Ka is very important band as so many depts have switched to the Ka band. With radar detectors, you really get what ya pay for. Pay $70 for a detector, you get $70 in performance. There is a reason the $300-600 radar detectors are so highly rated.
Even tho Whistler is using older designs, they are still relevant in the scanning hobby.
Even tho Whistler is using older designs, they are still relevant in the scanning hobby.
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"Truly Revulsionary [sic]"
No points for "truly revolutionary" if promises aren't kept and the thing doesn't work as advertised. If there were problems with the unit or the software/firmware was buggy or non-existent, DON'T release the unit and certainly don't proffer false information about the unit's current state of functionality. Clearly, the "36" series was rushed into production at a hefty price under partially false pretenses.
As for Paul, he's tarred with Uniden's as yet unkept promises and grossly misleading advertising when the units were offered for sale. No hate on this end for Paul, but in general, before you start making promises, or sign on to others' promises (which then become yours), make certain you can keep them or folks aren't going to trust you.
No points for "truly revolutionary" if promises aren't kept and the thing doesn't work as advertised. If there were problems with the unit or the software/firmware was buggy or non-existent, DON'T release the unit and certainly don't proffer false information about the unit's current state of functionality. Clearly, the "36" series was rushed into production at a hefty price under partially false pretenses.
As for Paul, he's tarred with Uniden's as yet unkept promises and grossly misleading advertising when the units were offered for sale. No hate on this end for Paul, but in general, before you start making promises, or sign on to others' promises (which then become yours), make certain you can keep them or folks aren't going to trust you.
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Yep, that's gotta be it.
Tired of arguing with people. I'll just pretend I agree instead. I've had enough endless/fruitless debate for now. :roll:
Edited to Add: This is not to say I actually DO agree with all the Uniden bashing. I still stand by every word I've said about this radio and yes it is innovative, far beyond any scanner I've ever used. If anyone disagrees with that, I'll gladly trade them my old beat up BC796D and take that "clunker" x36HP off their hands.
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I found the HP-1 to be the true innovative scanner. They stepped outside the box of a standard scanner format. The X36HP was an attempt to combine old and new with a few additional bells and whistles. I figured the could have done a better job releasing a HP-2 as the next in line and had more time to fine tune the X36 series.
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While I am not happy with the current 536 “situation”, I admire Paul for making the initiative to make occasional appearances in these discussions. I am the Sr Product Engineer for a major company’s digital cameras. I use forums like this as an early warning indicator for quality issues. Almost daily, there are discussions I’d like to jump into, but I won’t. I also know that doing so will make you a slow moving target for ridicule and abuse. Not responding to the questions that follow can easily make people think you are not interested. The reality is that Paul likely has many more obligations that have higher priorities. I’m certain Uniden does not pay him to chat with us about what we want in their radios. I appreciate his participation and only wish they would keep the users advised, whether with good or bad news.
I like your comment but it sounds like you said he's probably moved on to higher priority obligations. As the PM for Uniden scanners don't you think that fixing the whole x36 lineup has priority? This project is incomplete and customers would surly hate to think that this issue was push back for other projects. It would be nice to finish this one first unless they are writing it off. Just saying.
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Not saying he has moved on at all. I'm saying that he himself probably does not have the power to complete the task. He has his projects and takes marching orders from above. With that said Uniden is taking their customers and market share for granted. If they ignore us, no doubt we will go away!
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