What log book do you use? QSL Cards

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I still send traditional cards for all of my logged QSO's and I always include a SASE envelope for domestics or $2 worth of greenbacks for international.
Wow! That's fantastic!

I did some quick calculations (or rather Excel did them for me)...

So far this year I have made 482 contacts and we are only 5 months into the year. Most of these are just ordinary QSO's, but I do participate in a contest every now and then. So let's say I slack off a little and only make 1000 contacts this year.

Let's also assume my ratio stays the same (38% domestic and 62% DX).

Domestic first class postage is $.46 and the 1 oz. rate for foreign postage is $1.10.

If I send a paper card with an SASE and $2.00 with every foreign card, the math shows that I would spend $2,272.00 in postage.

LoTW started 10 years ago, so that means that I would have spent $22,720.00 in the past 10 years. OK, first class postage in 2003 was only $.37, so let's roll back than number to something in the neighborhood of $20,000 in postage.

This is why I do not detest LoTW!

Now if I had only put those postage savings in a jar, I would have the IC-7800 by now... with plenty left over for an IC-7600 as a spare!

EDIT: I checked my LoTW return rate. Mine is just over 42%. I am curious what your return rate is?
 
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I'd like to see some experienced logging program users address Jason's point about printing QSL card labels. Back in the days when I was reviewing shareware programs professionally, I seem to recall that several of the programs in our library could print those labels. I have to believe that modern logging programs like HRD, WinEQF, N3FJP, etc., have a label printing feature.
 

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Although I've never used the capability, I know for a fact the HRD can, or has a simple addon that can print labels.
 

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For me, this is HOBBY and I only do this when I have the cash to spare. I'm not going to go into debt to send out QSL cards, if that is what you are inferring I am doing.

Second, I send my cards in batches. Usually spread out quite a bit. For domestic, as you already pointed out, it's $0.46 per first class stamp. That means I can send and include an SASE for $0.92 per card. I think that's pretty cheap. I could factor in the card and envelope price, but when you buy a big enough bulk amount, the cost is really pennies per card. Also, I have my own thermal postage printer for my company, so I use that to print stamps and that really speeds up the process for me. Yes, I do have to buy the stamp rolls, but again, the price per is so small in the long run.

International used to be not so bad when you could put a single $1 in each one. Plus, the out going was only around $.90 each. That was less than $2 per card. Now you have to include at least $2 in greenbacks and the outgoing is $1.10. I have started to buy the $1.10 forever international first class stamps and that has made the process easier and faster for me AND the post office. For the international I tend to keep those batches to ten each and usually space those out by a few weeks. In fact, I know it's poor practice to hold cards this long, but just last week I sent out cards for QSOs I made at the end of 2012. Again, I'm not going to go into debt doing this. I do it when I can spare the extra $30-40.

As for return, in all honestly my international is right up there at around 90%. I have the return envelopes saved to prove it. I actually hang on to them for the neat return postage that I figure I'll give to the first serious stamp collector that comes along and wants them.

Domestic is probably around 80% for me. In general, US hams are really good at returning a card, even if they don't have one of their own and instead choose to print something out or even buy a post card and write the QSO info on the back. I have several of these in my collection. I think when I send an SASE, most hams realize that it's important to me that I get the return and I have also invested the money in the deal and they don't want to see that go to waste. I find most hams are pretty decent people :)

Wow! That's fantastic!

I did some quick calculations (or rather Excel did them for me)...

So far this year I have made 482 contacts and we are only 5 months into the year. Most of these are just ordinary QSO's, but I do participate in a contest every now and then. So let's say I slack off a little and only make 1000 contacts this year.

Let's also assume my ratio stays the same (38% domestic and 62% DX).

Domestic first class postage is $.46 and the 1 oz. rate for foreign postage is $1.10.

If I send a paper card with an SASE and $2.00 with every foreign card, the math shows that I would spend $2,272.00 in postage.

LoTW started 10 years ago, so that means that I would have spent $22,720.00 in the past 10 years. OK, first class postage in 2003 was only $.37, so let's roll back than number to something in the neighborhood of $20,000 in postage.

This is why I do not detest LoTW!

Now if I had only put those postage savings in a jar, I would have the IC-7800 by now... with plenty left over for an IC-7600 as a spare!

EDIT: I checked my LoTW return rate. Mine is just over 42%. I am curious what your return rate is?
 

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How about some suggestions for a good log book?

I wouldn't mind a "pen & paper" book, but I feel a logbook/software for the pc would be more efficient, maybe enabling one to do a quick search for a callsign previously entered?

I don't know what is available out there & figured you fellows would be the best to ask about this.

And a side question - where do you gents order your QSL cards from?

Thanks for any & all suggestions!

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I use a paper log as well as N3FJP AC Log on my PC. I am old school and like to still do a paper log. Also like sending and receiving QSL cards in the mail, my last batch was made from KB3IFH he did a great job. There are plenty of printers out there, I also at one time used to make them myself..
 

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Right now, I just make my printer print out picture paper (wow all those p's) with the image that I want and the info of the QSO. It works pretty well, but it can get kind of expensive if you QSL a lot, but luckily for me I don't do it a whole lot so it works fine for me. I've heard that there are a lot of advertisements in the QST magazine where you can buy a set of your own QSL cards. I haven't really figured the cost difference but to print my own cards, it costs about 20 cents per page plus the ink which may use like 10 cents worth of it. So on top of the cards, I usually do QRZ.com as well. I got all registered for LoTW but I haven't even touched the program yet. I might have to try it soon.
 

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Personally, I find sending and receiving traditional cards one the best parts of this hobby!

I totally agree .. it is just something special when you get a new QSL card, especially if it is from some DX station.
 

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I totally agree .. it is just something special when you get a new QSL card, especially if it is from some DX station.

Exactly! I love the fact that something I hand filled went all the way to the other ham, he opened it with his hands and then did the same for me, sending it back. That little journey for the card is part of the fun for me. I was licensed when I was 12 years old, but I couldn't afford to get on HF until I was about 18 and finally had a job that paid me enough to buy a radio. That opened up a whole new world in the hobby :D
 

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I use plain paper and pen for logs, I don't do QSL cards because right now I only talk on 2 meters. But I did once receive a QSL card for a conversation on 2 meters.
 

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...especially if it is from some DX station.

Minutes after making my post yesterday, I checked my mail and this was waiting for me:

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The qsl bureau (ARRL) is the best way to send bulks of qsl cards. but is only for dx contacts. is a little slow but it works 5 years after i stop ham radio to follow other interest i was still getting qsl cards thru the bureau.
 

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Ordinary 70-sheet college-ruled spiral notebook ($1 at Fred Meyer about 12 years ago, and it's barely a quarter of the way full-up; shows you how often I actually log anything) and a pencil.

As for the QSL cards......uhhh, *what*? Last I checked, this was the 21st century. (Says the guy who still uses a rotary fone.)
 
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