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WLN KD-C1 Programming Software?

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I got a couple of these this weekend and tried to program them.

I am using a cable that works fine for UV-5R's and BF-888's just fine... no problems (Using CHIRP)

I am using the software that was on the 409shop web site to try to program the KD-C1.

Yes, I do have the correct com port selected.

I get an error when I try to either read or write...

I tried both radios... same problem.

Out of desperation I ordered one more radio, complete with cable and software, from WLN. I am hoping there is some bizarre cable incompatibility with this one radio and a WLN sold cable will work. It should be in next weekend.


I did see on Amazon feedback and a few other places that I may not be alone in this issue. I see other people having a problem but I haven't seen a solution posted yet.

In the mean time, has anyone else had a read/write error and have you found a solution?

Rick
 

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I just bought a cheap UHF 16 channel transceiver to be used as a scanner since everything here worth listening to is UHF.

It actually does VHF! Even mixed UHF/VHF programming is possible.

By just adjusting the frequency range in the software I am able to program both VHF and UHF frequencies at the same time.

I use it as a dual band radio. No problems so far..
 
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Picked up 10 of these to use with a portable repeater as an event radio system.

The software acts very similar to the TYT MD-380 software. With only 16 channels, programming was a snap.

I used the same USB to Serial/Kenwood-type cable that I use with my Baofeng and Wouxun radios.

The initial read shows a random mix of simplex channels in the 450-456 range, with a 400 and 469 programmed in. I programmed in a few "Logistics" frequencies at the bottom end of the range, a couple of ham repeaters, a couple GMRS channels, and a couple of frequencies in the 510 range, then put it on the service monitor/spectrum analyzer. The radios have the typical spectral purity of the inexpensive Chinese radios: They aren't perfect, but not as horrible as some of the early Baofengs. They have good, clean, loud audio.

I plugged a pair of them in to charge off the powered USB hub on my bench, one with the USB plug on the side, and the other in the drop-in charger. Both charged quickly, and there was only some minor issues with the drop-in charger as I moved it around that resolved when I set it back down.
 

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It actually does VHF! Even mixed UHF/VHF programming is possible.

By just adjusting the frequency range in the software I am able to program both VHF and UHF frequencies at the same time.

I use it as a dual band radio. No problems so far..

How do you get it to program as a dual band? There is no option to program VHF/UHF together.
Did you use different software? Or did you modify the code?
 

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How do you get it to program as a dual band? There is no option to program VHF/UHF together.
Did you use different software? Or did you modify the code?

Somehow I was able to program VHF/UHF frequencies without *any* modification. But I can not reproduce this anymore! :( But by modify 2 lines in config.ini which is located in C:\Program Files\KD-C1 I was able to do the mixed frequencies again. My config.ini looks like this:


[comm]
port=3
[lan]
type=2
[fre]
fl=B11934E4577223FC029E7D9B7ABDB3B8
fh=EEDEF0B3FE5E8B86029E7D9B7ABDB3B8
[File]
F=1
[jym]
jm=4F74F427044212F5

This should work!
 

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I did the edit, but no dice. I tried something like this before that was supposed to work also, but it did not change the program from rejecting the mixed bands.

There must be another difference in the software somewhere. Where did you download your original WLN copy of software. Mine came from 409shop. I wonder if there are 2 slightly different versions.
 

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I've got a pair now. I'm going to be looking for spurs and harmonics. This will give definitive answers to whether or not these radios will be able to operate on the hacked frequencies.
 

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I've got a pair now. I'm going to be looking for spurs and harmonics. This will give definitive answers to whether or not these radios will be able to operate on the hacked frequencies.

Thanks. I've been hoping that someone with the equipment and ability would do so. I really like the little radios.
 

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Thanks. I've been hoping that someone with the equipment and ability would do so. I really like the little radios.
My equipment for testing is very rudimentary. I can't get a sweep over such a large area. What I did do is inconclusive so far. I do know 220 Mhz receive is VERY poor. Not sensitive at all. There is a 70cm spur when transmitting on 220, which is much weaker than the 220 fundamental. This is very different from other radios that have had these mods.

Unfortunately, not ready yet to say this is conclusive evidence that 220 is safe. It certainly is NOT the radio to receive on this band. I expected this, however. I didn't expect the 70cm spur to be that weak....or at least what I think is weak.

Haven't tried 2 meters.

I need to look it over a lot more and look at a lot of data.

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Thanks for the initial findings. Primarily, I am interested in how clean it is in 70 cm. Apart from that, I'm mostly curious about 2 meter as there is that one local repeater I monitor while working the farm and sometimes answer a call on in the fields.

As a strictly 70 cm unit, I'd be very happy if it were clean in just that band.
 

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I'll start a new thread when I do all the testing, since this one really is software related.

On a different note..... Zentima,,,,or whatever it is..will get false positives on the install package for this radio. Go ahead and override the warning.

The cp2102 (FTDI alternative) works fine. I am replacing all my fake prolific cables with that chip. $2 ish as described at the Miklor site.

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I have 10 of these things now, and two more on order.

They are really decent performers.

Be aware that you now have to shop around to find them for $18 (including shipping). I am seeing them in places for as much as $25 PLUS shipping, and the descriptions sometimes infer that the drop-in desk charger isn't included for that price. It looks like they are becoming extremely popular and a some sellers are trying to make a few bucks more than others are.

The lesson then is that if they are more than $18-$19 bucks each, shop around a bit more... and make sure you are getting the base charger with it as well.
 

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The lesson then is that if they are more than $18-$19 bucks each, shop around a bit more... and make sure you are getting the base charger with it as well.
I actually just now ordered two of 'em for $15.00 each, with free shipping!
Seller: radio8688

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I have 10 of these things now, and two more on order.

They are really decent performers.

Be aware that you now have to shop around to find them for $18 (including shipping). I am seeing them in places for as much as $25 PLUS shipping, and the descriptions sometimes infer that the drop-in desk charger isn't included for that price. It looks like they are becoming extremely popular and a some sellers are trying to make a few bucks more than others are.

The lesson then is that if they are more than $18-$19 bucks each, shop around a bit more... and make sure you are getting the base charger with it as well.
I have two. Why do I want more ? Yes..."the gouge" is in play. The Retevis R-22 looks to be the same radio. This could be another option, if the price gougers take the game too far.

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I have two. Why do I want more ? Yes..."the gouge" is in play. The Retevis R-22 looks to be the same radio. This could be another option, if the price gougers take the game too far.

The AirFree AP-100, and the Zastone ZT-X6 are also the same radio as the WLN KD-C1

The Retevis RT-7, which is a little different, may be another option as well.

EDITED - to add that NKTECH NK-U1 is a carbon copy of the WLN KD-C1
 
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Thanks for that eBay contact, N4GIX! I was just getting ready to purchase a handful of them at $18 without the charging cradles when I saw your post. Because of price I was going to have to buy one radio less than what we needed and have no charging cradles. Now we ordered all that we needed and got the cradles. Outstanding! :)
 

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You are most welcome. It would be interesting to find out which of the five or so different "Private Labels" is the original, and which are the licensed clones...

I suspect that Zastone is the primary manufacturer, and the others are "Private Labels."
 

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I was suspecting that WLN was the generic original. Zastone has put out remakes before (at least one bad Boafeng model). Also, WLNs were the first of the kind that I observed on the internet. It's difficult to figure with some of these. It would indeed be interesting to find out who is the original maker and marketer of the KD-C1. For the price it is a mighty fine radio.
 
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