troymail
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Of course I checked those - using other radios - nothing, as stated.
I'm still not sure what exactly nedhc47 was meaning with the simulcast vs. multicast comments.
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Of course I checked those - using other radios - nothing, as stated.
I'm still not sure what exactly nedhc47 was meaning with the simulcast vs. multicast comments.
Touchy this morning Troy? Have you had your coffee yet?
I wasn't sure if you had the equipment with you to look for a CC, but then again I should have realized that you probably did.
Much understanding of multicasting of this system is that the OC site and the OP site exist in separate but parallel states, meaning that they both broadcast the same TPs, but the OP site is more of a standalone / backup system and not an ASR. IDK, need more info.
emtLarmy15
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Gonna be a busy day down here today!
I am monitoring. The updated cut over time is 11:40am.
(Feb. 9, 2018) While still not a completely done deal, the Worcester County Commissioners have conditionally approved an operating contract with the Harris corporation to allow the new emergency radio system, expected to cost about $8.6 million over its lifetime, to begin operations.
https://www.oceancitytoday.net/p/county-conditionally-agrees-to-8-6-million-radio-contract/1723551
https://www.oceancitytoday.net/p/county-conditionally-agrees-to-8-6-million-radio-contract/1723551
At 11:42am on 20180214, an all station broadcast sent out by Worcester Co Fire Dispatch on their EDACS, advising of the system change over ...
Unfortunately, no current gear to monitor the progress and like many ... still waiting on the Unication P2 upgrade.
Unfortunately, no current gear to monitor the progress and like many ... still waiting on the Unication P2 upgrade.
troymail
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Interesting... sounds like they really aren't fully ready but are probably cutting over anyway... but might fall back if they hit problems.
Also sounds like disagreement over the additional tower that is needed (Mystic Harbor). Harris wants two more and the County only wants the one at Mystic Harbor.... aesthetics? As I understood from an earlier post, Harris is responsible for the cost--- or did I read that wrong?
Seems to me that if the county doesn't accept Harris' recommendation for two new towers to meet contractually specified coverage goals, it lets Harris off the hook for not meeting performance specs. I guess they will wait and see how full foliage affects there system... I thought acceptance occurs before official cut-over?
dpm797
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It has been my experience that acceptance testing occurs during full foilage and before cut over. So, if there are any problematic areas, they can be identified and addressed.
troymail
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Interesting - fire (now?) has an encrypted talkgroup -- did FIRE have any encryption on the EDACS system?
https://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?sid=9339
https://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?sid=9339
Maybe it's the fire investigations channel or PIO channel? I think AACo has those encrypted. Hopefully they're not trying to emulate DCFD's failed attempt to cloak their operations.
emtLarmy15
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Fire didn’t have any provoice on the EDACS system so no there wasn’t any encryption.
That being said the encrypted group is for information that needs to be relayed privately across the radio such as key locations etc.
That being said the encrypted group is for information that needs to be relayed privately across the radio such as key locations etc.
emtLarmy15
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8 unencrypted fire groups and 1 encrypted and you want to believe were emulating DC? Wow come on...
emtLarmy15
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troymail
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Now that is smart use of encryption -- there are clearly times where door and gate codes as well as other information needs to be protected....
troymail
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...and there is always that....
It's funny (and sad) when you see reports in the press where they just got it wrong and you know it... makes you wonder how much other stuff makes the news that isn't entire accurate....
Yea, I really didn't say that. I gave possible scenarios / uses that justify enc, as did Troy - and a caution wrt to DC failed policy. I am a staunch supporter of open government, thus am against encryption except for limited / justified circumstances. DC took it way too far to protect themselves politically, and was rightly condemned for it.
troymail
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Ocean City updated/updating their 800 Mhz license changing the location of the site to Ocean Pines (vs. the Public Safety building).... seems to line up somewhat with the discussion about a month ago...
ULS License - PubSafty/SpecEmer/PubSaftyNtlPlan,806-817/851-862MHz,Trunked License - WNZT398 - OCEAN CITY, TOWN OF
ULS License - PubSafty/SpecEmer/PubSaftyNtlPlan,806-817/851-862MHz,Trunked License - WNZT398 - OCEAN CITY, TOWN OF
I'm looking in the change / transaction log, and all they seemed to have done is changed the name of the contact to somebody from Harris, rather than the city. They also changed the address of the tower site from Rt 90 & 589 to a numbered street address adjacent to that intersection (they also adjusted the lat-long by a minute amount, and changed the city name from Berlin to Ocean City.) They also added some esoterica of emission type, You can see the tower and the access road in Google Maps satellite view. Interesting that their frequency coordinator is a highway association rather APCO or the RPC - I guess that they way they did things in the past? Or that band of freqs? IDK.
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