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WV Interoperability System
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Okay, In my bank 9 I did F+2 and entered 453.025 base frequency, 8192 offset, and 12.5 spacing. Then did F+4 and set to TABLE. This seemed to work just the same as before. I am receiving voice just fine. I didn't notice difference than with the MULTI-TABLE. I also picked up 2 more talkgroups on the Clarksburg tower. One was 00207, which seems to be the Marion County Sheriff's office. And the other was 00117, which they were calling ALT PD. I also travelled to Lewis County today and was picking up some traffic on the Salem tower(tower 105). It seemed to be the same traffic that is broadcast on the 101 tower. I am still working on the outside antenna so I can play around with Pro96Com. I will keep you all informed.
fmon
Silent Key Jan. 14, 2012
Thanks for the update moochie. Think I'll leave mine as single table and give the southern (I-64) run a test again in a week or so. I see a CC is listed for Cabell since my last trip through, did you submit that info?
brucewarming
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Thanks Moochie! Sounds like the TABLE setting is a good one. Here on the N. Mountian site alls quiet. Anybody think now that we have gotton this far that we should post these setting to the Data base in misc. catagory? I'll be listening and posting anything I hear.
The Charleston tower came on line this week. Control channel is 460.0625. Have to wait for my 996 to do anything more.
wvufan
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I heard on the Wyoming County police frequency a city cop telling dispatch that he talked to a DNR unit on a state digital channel. I guess they're using this digital system in southern WV now. I don't have a digital scanner, so I couldn't listen but I'm going to have to get one.
FPO703
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DNR has their own 'network' of APCO-25 digital conventional channels. The State system hasn't sprawled that far South, yet.
No, fmon. I didn't post the control channel for Cabell. Don't make it to that area much. I have been picking up a little more traffic on the 105 tower though. Again, seems to be the same traffic as on the 101 tower. Picked up another talkgroup 00123. The way I understood, it was another 'private channel'. And yes brucewarming, I think the TABLE setting is working fine, so I'm going to leave it for now. I see a portable site posted in the database now. I will have to input these frequencies and see if I can get anything.
I also posted a file in the file section of the Pro96Com group for the 101(Clarksburg) tower. This was only about a 10 minute run. I hope to do a longer one in the near future.
brucewarming
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Great! Looks like the interest is growing in this system and it's getting active. I see the new talk groups and some new sites (portable) also will be adding this to my program. Now to figure out how to set up a couple of regional banks now that the system has exceeded 50 Ch's. Any suggestions on a programing set up would be nice.
Moochie, Maybe you are getting the same transmitions from two different towers and you will have to lock out the C.C. of the weakest? Someone correct me if 'am wrong.
This maybe the answer to my question also! Just program the C.C.s and Alternates and lock out the ones not in use.? Which would mean not having to program any of the non-C.C.
Moochie, Maybe you are getting the same transmitions from two different towers and you will have to lock out the C.C. of the weakest? Someone correct me if 'am wrong.
This maybe the answer to my question also! Just program the C.C.s and Alternates and lock out the ones not in use.? Which would mean not having to program any of the non-C.C.
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fmon
Silent Key Jan. 14, 2012
Bruce, you answered your own question, there are 14 CC's and Alt's plus the 19 unknowns in the last four sites. That'll give you room in one bank if you need. The Portable site is unique, haven't seen that before.
wm8s, nice grab on the Charlestoon CC.
moochie, you're ringing the bells now, saw your .txt files uploaded in Yahoo Pro96Com group, keep it up.
FPO703, the following ID doesn't match the HEX does it? I get 6251 for 185b, however, I've been wrong before.
BTW, great job staying on top of updates.
100025 186b D Private channel for EMS/FD
wm8s, nice grab on the Charlestoon CC.
moochie, you're ringing the bells now, saw your .txt files uploaded in Yahoo Pro96Com group, keep it up.
FPO703, the following ID doesn't match the HEX does it? I get 6251 for 185b, however, I've been wrong before.
BTW, great job staying on top of updates.100025 186b D Private channel for EMS/FD
fmon said:
This tells me that there are going to be a LOT of talkgroups on this system, if they are handing out what we called Proprietary (private) talkgroups that high up at 100025. The end goal is to have most everyone across the state on this system within the next 5-8 years, or sooner if enough funding can be secured to build the system out faster. Many smaller public safety agencies will obviously have to take advantage of Homeland Security grants to purchase their radios. However, having a statewide system that created interoperability among all first responders is essential in this day and age.
73's
Ron
brucewarming
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This system is changing very often, so any information that I post is subject to change. On Yahoo's pro-96 group, I put a file for West Virginia's interoperability system and removed the duplicate frequencys. It's the control and alternate control channels only for the ones that are labeled as such. The ones with frequencys listed "but no control channels listed" On these I put all channels in, they are also with talk groups "also subject to change" I tried to proof read myself, and think I have it right, but you know how that can be! The tables are also there and the recieve mode is also set. The other pages are all at default settings.
So remember if you use this file as a new one to work with (you will have to) set the settings/weather/extended freq's/ text and the likes to your personal settings. Hope you can find use for this.
So remember if you use this file as a new one to work with (you will have to) set the settings/weather/extended freq's/ text and the likes to your personal settings. Hope you can find use for this.
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antennaman1969
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Can the Unidens do this extended frequency table info? I have a 796D-maybe it can't. Is the 396 able to do it, with the dynamic memory etc.? Might try to return my Pro-97 to upgrade to a Pro-96, as they're on sale. I've tried to enter the table info into the 796, it won't take the 8192 offset.
Any advice is appreciated.
William
Any advice is appreciated.
William
fmon
Silent Key Jan. 14, 2012
I don't think you need settings on the 296/796 for P25 systems, someone made a post earlier that the 396 works without any settingsantennaman1969 said:
fmon said:
Yes, the 296/796 DO require the proper settings to track and follow P-25 VHF and UHF systems. However, I believe the 396 doesn't require them. Nonetheless, here is part of the equation for 296/796 scanners:
Table 1:
Base: 453.0000
Space: 12.5
Offset: 380
Table 2:
Base: 460.0000
Space: 12.5
Offset: 570
I know that Table 1 works, but Table 2 is untested. You have to enter this into each bank that you program the scanner to receive the system on.
73's
Ron
fmon
Silent Key Jan. 14, 2012
I don't know Ron, those settings are for an 3600 b system This system is 9600 b, for which the lowest offset (8192), is well above the highest (759) on a 3600 b system. If in fact, 380 is offset, how does the CC find the voice channel, all of which are will above channel 759 including the CC.
As noted by William, offset 8192 can't be set in the 796.
I have a feeling the 296/796/396 ignores any table settings in a 9600 b (true P25) system and like reported with the 396 doesn't require settings. Try setting a clean bank up as UHF and keep the default settings, just program the freqs and let us know if it works.
As noted by William, offset 8192 can't be set in the 796.
I have a feeling the 296/796/396 ignores any table settings in a 9600 b (true P25) system and like reported with the 396 doesn't require settings. Try setting a clean bank up as UHF and keep the default settings, just program the freqs and let us know if it works.
brucewarming
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pro96com software utility that you can download from the main page here, has been updated from 1.3.1.36 to 1.3.2.36 You will have to read notes to see whats been changed.
N. Mountian tower has been quiet, but in OTHER EVENTS screen theres been some activitiys.
N. Mountian tower has been quiet, but in OTHER EVENTS screen theres been some activitiys.
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antennaman1969
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Kudos to the moderators, and those on the forum who know what they're doing! I fussed at my 796 for not taking the extended table, returned my Pro-97 for a Pro-96, and by the time I got back, voila! More discussion on my problem, and separate tables by brand. Smooth as butter after that.
I have acquired a data channel in the Ohio county simulcast list. Nothing from Morgantown or the portable site.
Here goes:
On the 96, it is labeled S05;
freq. 453.5125mhz
9600b, giving correct sys id
site 0108
No voice yet. 70-85% decode.
Any of this info accurate or useful?
I have acquired a data channel in the Ohio county simulcast list. Nothing from Morgantown or the portable site.
Here goes:
On the 96, it is labeled S05;
freq. 453.5125mhz
9600b, giving correct sys id
site 0108
No voice yet. 70-85% decode.
Any of this info accurate or useful?
FPO703
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Yes, it is helpful. I just updated the DB entry to reflect your findings.
Thanks for that info.
Thanks for that info.
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