NWI_Scanner_Guy
SCANNING THE AIRWAVES SINCE 1987
Provoice? $50.00? YAWN.
X36 "huge, tremendous, fantastic feature addition"?
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I just sure hope someone beta tested this on the Florida SLERS. As we know most Fire Agencies on SLERS are not encrypted.
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Without getting too involved in the encryption discussion, to be honest, I'd be surprised if some places didn't do exactly that. That would put the scanner users back to SOL status, of course. If I were a resident of one of those areas I'd chat with the police commission (or whoever maintains the trunk system) to find out why they feel the need to be so secretive.
br0adband
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I was in the same position as were many others here in Las Vegas up until recently when the LV Metro PD moved from the seriously terrible OpenSky system (which wasn't monitorable period) to the P25 Phase II system that's in place now which appears to work extremely well for them. The vast majority of the traffic on the LVMPD system is encrypted, however, but they are - at least for the time being - keeping the dispatch channels (8 of them) open and able to be monitored. The RR frequency database shows several more talkgroups as "T" status meaning not encrypted (with the obvious "E" meaning as such) but I can't say that I've heard activity on any of the non-dispatch channels directly. But then again I don't even own an actual physical scanner anymore, still using SDR hardware and "cheap USB TV tuners" to get that job done for the time being. 
They could at any time just flip that bit and encrypt it all so I'm thankful they're keeping the dispatch talkgroups open - unfortunately for most people that don't use computers like some of us do and aren't aware of what's possible with a $10 TV tuner and some free software on a personal computer will end up spending a considerable amount of cash to get a digital capable scanner that can do P25 Phase II and realize that's the only system here in the Las Vegas area that actually uses that type of system. P25 Phase I is hardly used here - just Nellis AFB and the TSA at McCarran on a frequency or two - so it's not really of much use overall.
DMR usage, however, is skyrocketing here incredibly fast so I was kinda hoping for that as part of this announcement but, no such luck. NXDN is being added as well with a few systems converting over in the past 2 years or so, mostly casinos.
Hell, I don't even use my SDR hardware to monitor anymore either - I use Scanner Radio Pro on my Android smartphone to tap into the LVMPD feed someone is providing so there went that idea too.
They could at any time just flip that bit and encrypt it all so I'm thankful they're keeping the dispatch talkgroups open - unfortunately for most people that don't use computers like some of us do and aren't aware of what's possible with a $10 TV tuner and some free software on a personal computer will end up spending a considerable amount of cash to get a digital capable scanner that can do P25 Phase II and realize that's the only system here in the Las Vegas area that actually uses that type of system. P25 Phase I is hardly used here - just Nellis AFB and the TSA at McCarran on a frequency or two - so it's not really of much use overall.
DMR usage, however, is skyrocketing here incredibly fast so I was kinda hoping for that as part of this announcement but, no such luck. NXDN is being added as well with a few systems converting over in the past 2 years or so, mostly casinos.
Hell, I don't even use my SDR hardware to monitor anymore either - I use Scanner Radio Pro on my Android smartphone to tap into the LVMPD feed someone is providing so there went that idea too.
mitbr
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Ok so would I be able to listen to hillsborough county sheriff and tampa pd florida edacs didgital talkgroups?
Ok so would I be able to listen to hillsborough county sheriff and tampa pd florida edacs didgital talkgroups?
For some, it IS huge. I'm not in that group since I don't have any PV systems near me, but I appreciate the effort and the upgrade availability, and I realize for those with PV in their area, it is a huge feature.
I would love DMR and NXDN, as I have such systems near me. But, that's not what it is. So be it.
That's existed with P25 for over 10 years. Same argument. But, it's far more likely for business users to do that than PS users, as most realize the public has a right to know what their government is doing (or not doing).
UPMan,
I just don't know what to say. Who over at Uniden pulls your strings? I'd love to talk to him / her.
Is this how your instructed to address your loyal costumer base. The ones that bought your companies flag ship scanners even with them being unfinished and defective. But knowing that Uniden was hard at work addressing these problems. Mostly base on you posting reassuring tid bits here and there.
So in keeping us all in the dark and writing "speculation rules, dudes!" You (Uniden) come right out and give us details on the new Provoice thats coming out. Oh and theres a charge for it. Of corse Uniden would release something that could take more money out of our pockets before fixing and adding what should be there in the first place. Just a way to keep or get the loyal owners deeper in the hole with Uniden.
The first post you should of made this morning was what Uniden has done to fix the problems. Not how Uniden has come up with a new way to charge us. Your teams should not be spending one minute working on other features that are part of this radios firmware until you have the firmware as perfect as it can be. Uniden owes us that, you owe us that.
How long does Uniden think they can keep this up what 3-4 years? It won't last forever.
Jim
brucewarming
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New product?
Was there anything for updating missing firmware? Was this just a big sales pitch? I thought we were getting improvements, Not another way to get money?
Was there anything for updating missing firmware? Was this just a big sales pitch? I thought we were getting improvements, Not another way to get money?
mitbr
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Any plans for provoice with hp1?
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Can I ask the reason why Uniden is developing EDACS PROVOICE?
New Mexico is going to be gone soon and Hawaii is already building out their P25 system and retiring their PROVOICE system.
Please help me Uniden your thinking behind this release????
New Mexico is going to be gone soon and Hawaii is already building out their P25 system and retiring their PROVOICE system.
Please help me Uniden your thinking behind this release????
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Honestly Uniden is a big JOKE at this point. Actually this company is going to fall into a rat hole and that will be it for them. They decided to R & D Provoice for scanners and provice is so outdated and going to be gone soon. They can't even fix what was promised with the Siren App.
How much more can we take as a scanner community with this company?
At least Uniden seems to moving in the right direction with this new feature, but very late in the game. I would say 90% of us hope DMR and NXDN receive capabilities are in the pipeline to be released soon.:roll:
Simple question, what about the Android App, completing Analyzer functions and the Uniden server that would allow a more user friendly remote access?
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Bravo Sir !! Well said !!
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I hope Uniden Scanner division goes belly up soon. It would be for the greater good at this point.
Tired and exhausted hearing from UPman about old retiring technology that is being R & D and being release as a huge release from Uniden.
This is a horrible stab in our throats at this point. OMG. I just do not know what to really say at this point
seth21w
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Thank you Jim +1
Ditto!
Oh well, it was fun to dream about improved simulcast reception or DMR . . .
My BCD436HP (complete with the latest faulty firmware upgrade) will be returning to its place in the storage cabinet. Time to turn up the volume a bit on my old PSR-800, the only radio in my scanner arsenal that can consistently track my local Harris P25 phase 1 LSM system.
The PSR-800 may not be "huge, tremendous, or fantastic," but it receives signals clearly that won't even break the squelch on the 436.
-Johnnie
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I am not *****ing about the feature.. I for one can use the feature because I frequent Ottawa.. All I was saying is that it seems a little late to the party since you can probably count the number of big cities using Provoice in one hand.. if this came 5 years ago I would have been singing the praises.. no doubt.. I would be happy to have bought it then.. even for 200 dollars.. or more.. but Ottawa is in the midst of sunsetting its PV system along with all of the other majors.. I know San Antonio is in a different situation.. so its great for you Lindsay... but I think SA is really on its own.. perhaps Edmonton may be as well ..
So what we got? PV cities by Population..really only the top 5 I would consider major cities..
San Antonio - 2 million
Ottawa - 1.5 million
Edmonton - 1.2 Million
Oklahoma City 1 million
Albuquerque ??
Aurora Colorado.. (did they go away from this yet?)
Terre Haute Indiana..
State of Florida?
I think some of the suburbs around Vancouver are using it also..with ESK..
UPMAN.. will this support ESK system?
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