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WARNING!@#%^&* This post contains useful information:

Ok.. Instead of having another Midwest City thread, I will just tag it in here for everyone to hopefully see.

Currently, all but 10 of Midwest City police and fire vehicles have the brand new radio's installed for the DPS radio system. Ten new cars are sitting at fleet maintenance to be done BY Motorola. Also, the motorcycles are not done. Progress has been hampered by some programming issues. The console is installed inside the EOC, but was not actually working correctly as of 04:21pm today. "Sources" say, they were working a few kinks out. Also, they had some instalation problems on the tower for the SE portion of the city. However, I was told the system could be up and running without that tower causing any major problems.

The radio system has not been implemented yet because they did not replace the old system. Old the cars still have their original UHF system and will keep it. As of this time, no plans have been made to get rid of the old system.

All of the police officers and fire fighters have had their training. Handhelds have been issued as well. It could be next week or next month. There are no emails or memo's currently circulating through MWC that has a definitive date for completion. In fact, they have not even been told what the TG ID's are...even though I don't really think they would actually know them off hand.

I might be able to get the id information Monday. I might bring lunch to my "source" and get some pics of the radio's also.
 

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okccsi said:
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I might be able to get the id information Monday. I might bring lunch to my "source" and get some pics of the radio's also.



Now THAT'S some good RR work!

Are they going to be using their old system regularly after they make the switch? Or will it serve as a backup only?
 

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Apparently, it is just going to be a backup system. They seriously have nothing planned for it yet. Who knows.

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Funny that after that picture was posted there were no further posts from PB.

Maybe he is off getting grammar lessons.
 
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I talked to my friend today. He doesn't have any idea what all the talkgroups are going to be. I guess I should say he couldn't verify because he never knew in the first place. So I will call another guy I know that works for the company that did the installs.

The word on the system going active is this:

The new system is not set up for recording yet. Also, the motorcycles still have the old radio installed. The motor jocks have the new handhelds, but if the city switches over to the new system the motor jocks would not be able to talk to anyone unless they used their handhelds. The city kind of frowns upon them using the HT's while driving a motorcycle.

They will be starting on the motorcycles tomorrow hopefully and have them finished by the end of the week. Then they have to verify that the recording is working before they can start the switch over.

I looked at one of the fire department's command suburban's today and it has the XTL 2500 in it. The screen said "7A MWC Fire..." There was something on the tail end of that but I don't remember what it was. Police have the same radio's of course.

In unrelated news, they are going with the argent configuration on the the new Vista lightbars like OCPD is using (led flashers, etc).

Currently I am on the phone with the guy doing the installs. He has me on hold while he runs out to his truck to get his laptop. He is using Astro 25 on his computer and is trying to get the info now.

MWC Police Dispatch - d1f
MWC Police Dispatch 2 - d6f

Fire Dispatch - c5f
Fire/Ground 2 - 723
Fire/Ground 3 - 725
Fire/Ground 3 - 727
Fire Training - 72b

Police Disbl - 9dd (Future Use)

Mutual Aid - 7e3 (Not sure if it is for just one department or both fire and police)

EMS 1 - 769
EMS 2 - 713

State Mutal Aid 1 - 7c1
State Mutal Aid 2 - 7c3
State Mutal Aid 3 - 7c5
State Mutal Aid 4 - 7c7
State Mutal Aid 5 - 7c9

He didn't have the TG Id's in front of him, just the hex values. I know someone can figure out the TG Id's from that. At least I hope so, otherwise that was a wasted call. There are two other channels for the police department, but they are tactical channels. He sad he wasn't sure, but he felt like he would need permission to give me those. I told him don't worry about it because he had given me a lot already.

I think while others work on this I am going to see if I can figure out what the hex values would convert to.

Enjoy,

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A little grep, a little awk ... This is pulled from what's in the DB, so the new ones you posted that aren't in the DB just have the Uniden format and the hexadecimal TG number. The ones that are in the DB, print out (obviously).

Code:
53744   d1f     A               Midwest City Police Dispatch    Central Oklahoma (OHP Troop A Area)
55024   d6f
50672   c5f     A               Midwest City Fire Dispatch      Central Oklahoma (OHP Troop A Area)
29232   723
29264   725
29296   727
29360   72b
40400   9dd
32304   7e3
30352   769     A       MWC EMS         Midwest City EMS        Central Oklahoma (OHP Troop A Area)
28976   713
31760   7c1     A       SMA 1A          State Mutual Aid        Statewide Mutual Aid
31792   7c3     A       SMA 1B          State Mutual Aid        Statewide Mutual Aid
31824   7c5     A       SMA 1C          State Mutual Aid        Statewide Mutual Aid
31856   7c7     A       SMA 1D          State Mutual Aid        Statewide Mutual Aid
31888   7c9     A       SMA 1E          State Mutual Aid        Statewide Mutual Aid

Good job!
 
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plaws said:
A little grep, a little awk ... This is pulled from what's in the DB, so the new ones you posted that aren't in the DB just have the Uniden format and the hexadecimal TG number. The ones that are in the DB, print out (obviously).

Code:
53744   d1f     A               Midwest City Police Dispatch    Central Oklahoma (OHP Troop A Area)
55024   d6f
50672   c5f     A               Midwest City Fire Dispatch      Central Oklahoma (OHP Troop A Area)
29232   723
29264   725
29296   727
29360   72b
40400   9dd
32304   7e3
30352   769     A       MWC EMS         Midwest City EMS        Central Oklahoma (OHP Troop A Area)
28976   713
31760   7c1     A       SMA 1A          State Mutual Aid        Statewide Mutual Aid
31792   7c3     A       SMA 1B          State Mutual Aid        Statewide Mutual Aid
31824   7c5     A       SMA 1C          State Mutual Aid        Statewide Mutual Aid
31856   7c7     A       SMA 1D          State Mutual Aid        Statewide Mutual Aid
31888   7c9     A       SMA 1E          State Mutual Aid        Statewide Mutual Aid

Good job!


I am not sure about the Uniden format part. The hex numbers were straight from the Motorola guy at Total Radio.

I thought there was a way to use a forumla to figure out what they would be. However, I see that they are all pretty much there, they just needed to be indentified in the database.

EDIT: Also, I noticed the additional two channels that the tech spoke off don't show up in there either. The so called tactical channels he mentioned to me.

Don Manning
 
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okccsi said:
I am not sure about the Uniden format part. The hex numbers were straight from the Motorola guy at Total Radio.

I am. :) I have a list of all the Uniden numbers and their true hex equivalents (Uniden / 16 -> hex). I sort that with a cut and paste of the DB (which, amazingly enough, preserves the TABs between the fields.

Then I did a little loop in the shell to pull out each of the TGs you posted in hex and grep for them in the big file. You saw the results. So again, the ones with add'l info were already in the DB (and all matched what your source said) and the ones without info, just show the hex number you gave plus the Uniden equivalent.

Way cool. Adding them to my GID file in Unitrunker now. :)
 

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So, you are saying that although I didn't manage to get the TG Id's, I did a good job? LOL, just making sure that was an "attaboy" and not a "oughtaleave".

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okccsi said:
So, you are saying that although I didn't manage to get the TG Id's, I did a good job? LOL, just making sure that was an "attaboy" and not a "oughtaleave".

Don Manning
It's nice to know what the talkgroups are going to be. I am a bit confused about something, so if you have your original notes. According to your post:

Fire Dispatch - c5f
Fire/Ground 2 - 723
Fire/Ground 3 - 725
Fire/Ground 3 - 727

Do you recall if the fireground channels are designated 1-2-3 or 2-3-4

I interpreted that they were 2-3-4 with dispatch being "1"; sort of the way that it is now. I also heard them doing some coverage testing in buildings and they said that they were on Fireground 3 and I am "73.4%" certain that I saw 29264 on the dispay.
 

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okccsi said:
So, you are saying that although I didn't manage to get the TG Id's, I did a good job?

You got the hex which is all we need, so yeah, it's an "attaboy". I can always do the translations ...

Actually, the Windows calculator, if set to "scientific" mode (or whatever they call it) can do base conversions, too. Just remember to multiply the result by 16 once you convert which "adds back" the status bits.
 

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You got the hex which is all we need, so yeah, it's an "attaboy". I can always do the translations ...

Actually, the Windows calculator, if set to "scientific" mode (or whatever they call it) can do base conversions, too. Just remember to multiply the result by 16 once you convert which "adds back" the status bits.


Ahhhh, that is what I was looking for. A way to figure it out from the hex values.

I have been educated once again, thank you.

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okccsi said:
Ahhhh, that is what I was looking for. A way to figure it out from the hex values.

I have been educated once again, thank you.

No problem.

The correct deal is: View -> Scientific (which gives you a bunch more functions), click Hex, then enter the TG in hex (example: d1f - the A-F buttons unghost when you click hex). Now click Dec and it turns into 3359. Now multiply by 16 ... 53744.

The other option is to add a 0 to the hexadecimal and just click Dec from there - thats the same as multiplying the decimal notation by 16 ...
 
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