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anyone able to get a CB antenna to work on a Jeep TJ it's like the old CJ's??

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oh boy,

well another of our friends saw the Jeep and saw how well the CB is working... I guess he is talking to people on the other end of the city and my group of friends are impressed... so another friend called me today and ordered that same CB and that Styker SAR-10 antenna.. I said are you going to put it on your 4X4 pick-up? ( I think he has a Toyota) he said no it's going in the El-Camino ... he has a hot rod El-Camino all built up... I said you really going to put that big ugly Stryker Antenna on the roof???? he said hell no, I'm just going to stick the magnet onto the floor in the bed behind the back window????.....

so we had the faraday discussion after that....

it's now going in the pick-up

I am having to teach my friends AKA, new "CB guys" all the things I didn't know when I got started... but I'm sure they have no idea of the cost of all the little parts to make a good working CB.
going to be a long summer for me.
 

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One of the cleanest old-radio installs I ever heard was in oilfield days where Clays Radio Shop installed a 102” whip in a truck bed. Talked to the installing tech from a mile away (he knew my voice).

B134 Mount

I’m not advocating that which reduces bed utility, but it was impressively clear. I don’t recall details on how far back from cab. 102” plus spring (108”; 9’). Seems like that’d be 12’ clearance maybe less in the El Camino.

@prcguy has posted about using bed wall interior side, but I don’t recall how close to cab or how high on bed wall.

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One of the cleanest old-radio installs I ever heard was in oilfield days where Clays Radio Shop installed a 102” whip in a truck bed. Talked to the installing tech from a mile away (he knew my voice).

B134 Mount

I’m not advocating that which reduces bed utility, but it was impressively clear. I don’t recall details on how far back from cab. 102” plus spring (108”; 9’). Seems like that’d be 12’ clearance maybe less in the El Camino.

@prcguy has posted about using bed wall interior side, but I don’t recall how close to cab or how high on bed wall.

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I didn't think you could have an antenna INSIDE the bed.. I thought the 4 walls of the bed made a Faraday cage where signals would not go in or out of the bed?? maybe my friend was smarter than me?... but sticking a magnetic mount Stryker SAR-10 on the floor of the bed???? I hardly think that would work worth a darn
 

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I didn't think you could have an antenna INSIDE the bed.. I thought the 4 walls of the bed made a Faraday cage where signals would not go in or out of the bed?? maybe my friend was smarter than me?... but sticking a magnetic mount Stryker SAR-10 on the floor of the bed???? I hardly think that would work worth a darn

Length always matters.

Wilson Antennas 305550-5 T5000 Center Loaded Mobile CB Antenna​

Is, so far as I understand, that from which a Stryker SRA-10 is derived. Identical under cover.

$90 at Amazon. Parts available OTC at truckstops nationwide.

For $99 one can buy a pair of
2418505.03/ASIRIO PERFORMER 5000 3/8
without lower shaft. 5” or taller (to 44”).

Shaft by Length

Post in thread 'anyone able to get a CB antenna to work on a Jeep TJ it's like the old CJ's??'
anyone able to get a CB antenna to work on a Jeep TJ it's like the old CJ's??

Set up two vehicles where lower shaft is from $12 to $40.


IMO, with any private vehicle can’t go wrong with:


As it’s in all ways a vehicle upgrade. Your Chevelle or his El Camino. There’s no downside as the driver is better-equipped for today’s roads. They’re getting worse by the month.

I realize that the muscle car thing is about circling the same block over and over. Look at me. They’re not the T-Rex that’d take them down once out onto the big road (A38 Dodge).

But I wouldn't be driving three counties over for a car show with anything less, either. 2005 is dead. Buried next to 1972.

Tell him it’s a matter of “willingness” as to radio rig install complexity with genuine trade-offs.

The radio rig likeliest to get used most often is the one to have.

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All that glitters (performance) is not chrome. But maybe wrap lower in paint-match + chrome spring & whip?

IMG_7604.jpeg

Am pleased you’ve gotten a few to sit up and take notice. Truck drivers start from practicality and learn to have fun. Your friends start from having fun to also keeping prized vehicles out of harms way.


On roof, mount rearwards of exact centerpoint

This is resto-mod. FM-NRC could keep comms for street racers such that Mus-twerps can’t tag along.

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my friend came over today... I was hoping to work on the jeep.
we played with some CB work on my F-150 that I needed to do, and we ran out of time before he had to be home to get his daughter off the bus.

I bought a couple 5 foot tall antenna's and a new coax for the Jeep tail light mount..... I was hoping to try that today. ... it didn't happen.

if we can get the Jeep tail light mount to give us 5 or 6 miles we will be happy with that and leave the antenna in the back of the Jeep in the tail light .

I told my friend to call me on the phone on his way to my house, I said when you get 20 miles out... he is not used to the radio... I gave him all the instructions last month and told him to play with it... he has talked to a few of locals in his area I guess, but has not read the instructions.... on the way to my house he hit the mute button so he could not hear me.....
I really like the mute button... its on the top of the microphone between the channel UP and Channel Down buttons. one tap and its muted another tap and it's back to normal.
he had his radio muted until the 10 mile mark from my house....... the conditions were not great today at 9AM ... every time I called for my friend I would get someone in Oklahoma to respond (I live in Massachusetts) so I talked to several people in Oklahoma.... my friend finally unmuted that little radio and we talked back and forth on his way to my house. I recorded the base to mobile on my cam-corder.... but I kept getting skip saying hello so I said hello... my friend in the jeep never said a word... not sure if he would have gotten a response or not.

when he went home I pulled my F-150 out into the driveway to talk to him as long as I could. .. recorded our talk on his way home for 9 minutes...... I am learning "Scan" is a terrible thing.... as I thought we would just talk on channel 24 on his way home. but every time we talked someone would whistle .... others started a beeping tone??? every time I called for him other people in the country would respond making the noise floor go through the roof.. without scan I don't think so many other people would have been jumping into our conversation.
we got 6.30 miles.... the audio on my phone is TERRIBLE.... sitting in my truck it didn't sound too bad.... but when I play it on my phone it's difficult to hear him.... my old radio doesn't have NRC and that would have been a big help.

I'm going to post our 6 mile mobile to mobile on youtube but will delete it in a couple days... just thought I would share 6.30 miles mobile to mobile with a Jeep at 2:15PM in the afternoon with not very good conditions. ..... if he had gone home after 6PM I think we could have gotten a lot more...

this is the 6.30 mile mobile to mobile video... that Stryker on the hood is kicking ass, I didn't think the conditions were any good today.... if we had done this in the evening I am sure we could do 8 plus.... but I'll find out on our next Jeep Range test in a couple weeks...... my friend is coming back and we will try the new stuff on the Tail light mount and range test that.
that Jeep with those massive tires and soft top is so NOISEY I can't believe my friend can hear me.

 
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just a little update on the antenna I'm trying to get working on the jeep...

still trying to get an antenna on the Jeep Taillight mount... I bought a Red Devil 6 foot antenna that they love in the UK..... and I've gotten over 9 miles on it with no ground plane so I think that antenna will really work awesome if I can get it to ground plane.
I put it on last year and could not get it to adjust on the SWR..... before finding out the mount wasn't grounded properly...

well a few weeks ago I thought the Jeep Taillight mount was pretty well grounded using 1 1/4 wide straps but the SWR was still over 3????... so I told my friend when he comes over again we'll drill huge half inch holes through the tail light bracket and the tub... then grind off all the paint and powder coating and ground the hell out of it.... but just in case it's the antenna??? I bought a 5 foot firestick and ANOTHER Red Devil antenna......
I also bought a 3/8 Mag Mount so I could try the 3/8 antenna's and the red devil on the roof/ hood of my truck and get the SWR close so when we put it on the Jeep the SWR will be close....

I went to stick it on my F-150 hood in my garage ( I know, I know.... I'm not setting the SWR in the garage even though I have tested the SWR in my huge garage and in the middle of a field and the SWR is always pretty close ... anyway)
so I was quite surprised to find it would not stick to my hood... I didn't know a 2011 F-150 had an Aluminum hood.... I set it on the hood and looked at the RigExpert and it was 1.2 on all 40 channels??? so I thought something was wrong so I moved it on the hood a little and it showed up good.... so I didn't even have to adjust it for the SWR... but on the jeep tail light it was not usable?

the SWR's were a little odd so I stuck it on my plumbing truck hood and the SWR was excellent so I don't think it's the antenna.....
next week I'm drilling the holes in the tail light mount and through the jeep tub and I'll see??? if it doesn't work after that I'll buy the NMO for the Jeep hood.

I also bought an adapter to allow me to put my Sirio 5000 Fighter on the jeep 3/8 mount... and thought I would place that on my plumbing truck to see how that would work.... funny the SWR was ok... it still needs to be adjusted but it's close and that's what I wanted to know before I put it on the Jeep.... funny thing about the Sirio... I placed it on the hood of my plumbing van and noticed it was at an angle so I turned it just a little and the SWR went completely opposite??? it was like I put the SWR meter up against a mirror... very weird.

but it's nice to have a mag mount to test 3/8 mount antenna's on something with a ground plane... what a HUGE difference!
 

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One of the things you might be running into with the Jeep tail light mount is that it runs a fair portion of the antenna only a few inches from the metal of the tube. Pick ups that run an antenna behind the cab run into the same problem. You gotta imagine a 36 foot tall radio wave coming off that antenna and then immediately smacking into a chunk of sheet metal. Guaranteed to much up your SWR every time. Does he have a spare tire mount? Those are usually right in the center and can position the antenna higher away from the sheet metal. The hood using a hood mount can also work. 11 meter antennas on Jeeps just ain’t easy! This is why I actually think a ball mount on the driver’s side of the tube is the best solution. Always the drivers side…unless you wanna hit bushes and mailboxes with your antenna.
 

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One of the things you might be running into with the Jeep tail light mount is that it runs a fair portion of the antenna only a few inches from the metal of the tube. Pick ups that run an antenna behind the cab run into the same problem. You gotta imagine a 36 foot tall radio wave coming off that antenna and then immediately smacking into a chunk of sheet metal. Guaranteed to much up your SWR every time. Does he have a spare tire mount? Those are usually right in the center and can position the antenna higher away from the sheet metal. The hood using a hood mount can also work. 11 meter antennas on Jeeps just ain’t easy! This is why I actually think a ball mount on the driver’s side of the tube is the best solution. Always the drivers side…unless you wanna hit bushes and mailboxes with your antenna.
I know the ball would make a good ground... but wouldn't an antenna on the ball still be up against the side of the tub???? just like an antenna up against the back of a pick-up truck cab? ( see picture)

the 6 foot antenna I'm using is 4 feet above the top of the jeep.

I'm going to drill a hole the size of your thumb through the taillight mount and through the tub.... that should be grounded as good as the ball... the taillight mount he has is a very thick heavy metal mount... so having three bolts and the big massive bolt I'm going to put on it really should make a ground plane... if that's possible.... if it works we may be done if not it goes on the hood permanently ... but I want to try it for my YouTube Video on making a CB work good on a Jeep... I'm trying EVERY TRICK I KNOW on this one.

ultimately you need metal UNDER the antenna and on the flat sides of a jeep that's just not possible... it will work for 2 maybe three miles... but without that metal under the antenna I highly doubt it will work....

I'm trying to do this on my Youtube Video because out of a Million jeeps out there every Jeep owner has it on the spare tire carrier or on the taillight mount and they all swear it works great!... I have never seen a jeep get more than 2 or 3 miles.... I also have never tested or talked to one that had a ball mount... but my video will show if they work or don't work.... ( I'm VERY SURE THEY DON"T WORK) ... my video will show the truth of how a Jeep CB works.....
there are hundreds of Jeep CB youtube installs where the guy stands there and say's this works GREAT..... but they don't actually range test it.... and when you watch most of these jeep guys don't have a clue on the CB Radio... they don't even ground the tail light mount ( it has a hole your supposed to drill into the tub) but no one does that.... they don't sand the powder coating off the mount or off the jeeps paint... so it can't possibly have a ground plane... they also all plug a $39.99 CB into the cigarette lighter plug and then say to the YouTube audience "this is how you do it!"

I have already proved a Stryker SAR-10 on the corner of the Jeep hood can get 14.90 miles to my base station

so it should be a very helpful video... but dear God it's next to impossible to get this thing to work easily
 

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Well, it might also be the coax or connection. Have you ohm’d it out the coax? The ball mount holds the antenna out away from the sheet metal about 4.5 to 5 inches. That can be all it takes. The lower in frequency you go the crazier it gets. On my truck, I have a base loaded quarter wave on the roof for 6 meters. It was ridiculously directional. I got out great off to the sides of the truck but fore and aft sucked. I put the 3” ball mount on the side of the bed, up high, and it worked fantastic. So, just something you have to play with. If your buddy is really overland bound and stuff he can always mount it to the front bumper. I always thought that looked weird, but lots of guys do it. It has the advantage of being in your line of sight so you don’t bushwack it in heavy brush or trees.
 

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Well, it might also be the coax or connection. Have you ohm’d it out the coax? The ball mount holds the antenna out away from the sheet metal about 4.5 to 5 inches. That can be all it takes.
I bought all new coax and connectors and will swap them all out soon... he bought some pretty cheap stuff.
the ball mount can keep the antenna 4 1/2" inches from the body panel??? wow every one I've ever seen looked like it was just a couple inches out..... amazing it doesn't cause problems sticking so far off the side of the body panel ...

looks certainly are deceiving 3.5 inch ball mount
4.5 inches away... my eyes need to be checked I just thought they were like 3 inches max... same as the Jeep Taillight mount. 3.5 ball mount
 

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I wouldn't waste time drilling larger and larger holes in your friends jeep. Larger holes are not going to make a better ground.
I agree with @K6GBW , your issue is that you don't have a ground plane UNDER the antenna. It's beside it, in front of it, but not under it. That's why the antenna is working well when you put it on the hood of your F150, it's got a good ground plane under the antenna.

Honestly, I think you are chasing something you'll never catch with all the excessive bonding. Low impedance ground straps are good, but it's not going to fix the issue you are having.
 

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I see from the picture it’s using a PL259 connection to the antenna on the coax. Might be tough to do, but if you could use an ohm meter and check it for continuity while you’re flexing it, it might show an intermittent short. I’ve seen that happen when the Pl259’s are installed sloppily. I do all my own PL259’s and I’m pretty anal about them. A well installed connector is something every radioman should learn to master!

In looking at the mount it looks like the antenna is high enough. I dunno, sometimes certain combinations just don’t work. Have you tried another antenna? Maybe something as simple as a 4’ Francis might tune up better.
 

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I'm probably going to be ordering my Larsen NMO 34 and 64" whip next week and want to make sure I'll be able to use my Rigexpert to tune it?

I know you guys can make your Nano antenna analyzer do everything but make you toast and coffee...
I've watched a bunch of video's on that Nano and it's all Chinese to me

so if I buy the NMO 34 and 64 " whip, install it on the jeep hood.... hook up my RigExpert AA-54.... and If the SWR on channel 40 is higher than that on channel 1, I need to cut the whip... so I would cut a 1/4" off and keep doing that until I got a decent SWR for channels from 1 through 40??? the only thing I know ( and understand ) is the SWR ..... as far as bands and bandwidth and whatever all those graphs are, I'm lost ( I like talking on the CB and range testing..... everything else is far beyond me )

again to clarify .... I have my Rigexpert set to show me CB Channel 1, channel 10, channel 20, channel 30, and channel 40 at one time so I can easily make SWR adjustments. see picture of RigExpert frequencies

getting the SWR in a good range on the CB frequencies pictured below means that the NMO 34 and the now cut 64" whip are now tuned and working as best as possible for the CB frequencies???

if this is all I need to make the NMO 34 and 64" whip work on the hood of the jeep let me know and I'll place the order

my friend with the Jeep has cancer and is pretty sick most times, so he doesn't get over very often. he is going to try to get over next week so we can finally put the Tail light bracket in the trash and I can try to measure the thickness of the hood to see if a standard NMO cable mount will work or if I have to order a longer one as the hood looks like it "might" be doubled in the area that the Stryker antenna is working absolute perfectly in that spot right now.

so I'll either get this normal NMO mount or the one for a thicker mounting deck NMO extra long mount

I think I'll order a NMO Mag mount too, so I can try to find the best spot to place it. and I can do most of the cutting before my friend comes over and have it adjusted fairly close before he gets here.

I saw Chris155 and KX4KDH talking anout the NMO 34 / 64" whip in anther thread and thought I would include them as when I get it done I can give them the final measurement of what works.... hopefully I don't have to cut too much ... but I'll plan a couple hours of time just in case.
 

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my friend came over yesterday.... I have not ordered the parts for the Larsen as I wanted to see how thick the hood was where I need to mount the NMO mount... the hood was just flat sheet metal like a car roof so I don't have to order the extended longer mount.

I can't believe how GREAT that Stryker SAR-10 works on the hood.... at 9:00AM my friend was driving to my house so I turned on the Base station and the conditions were very quiet... I tried him on AM but could not get him. I called him on the phone and said try FM...... the Radioddity CS-47 dead keys 6.90 watts on AM and 15 watts on FM....
he said we was at exit XX and I know that's about 16 to 17 miles away... I said you out there Pete??? he came back very clear... I could hear him and we had a nice talk... he wasn't really loud but he was moving my signal meter, and on FM I could hear him clearly and easily! .. at 14 miles I had him go to AM ...I could hear him but it was not as clear .. and had more background noise so I told him to go back to FM... we talked for 20 minutes until he got to my house... that FM is really clear!!!! and that Stryker really does a hell of a job.

I showed him the Scarlett warrior CB antenna on a magnet mount has a great SWR of 1.2 to 1.4 on my Ford hood or plumbing van hood or even his Jeep hood... so it's working fine.. he even stuck the magnet to the little 5 inch wide X 10 inch long Jeep fender and it still had a great SWR....
we installed all new good quality CB cables from Walcott and bolted the antenna to the tail light mount... it had a SWR 3.1 to 3.5 ... so we drilled the 3/8 hole into the jeep tub through the tail light bracket, the SWR didn't change... so we took the bracket off the jeep and enlarged the hole to 1/2".... grinded all the paint off the bracket put it back on the jeep and enlarged the hole in the jeep to 1/2" .... grinded all the paint off the jeep put the star washers on both sides.. and wow the SWR dropped to 1.7 - 1.9
we took it out in the middle of a field and cut the whip... best I could do was 1.6 to 1.8 but I was happy to at least get the tail light bracket to work!!!!

I told my friend without the metal under it he will be lucky to get a few miles... he said he would be fine with that as he really didn't like the antenna on the hood?????
REALLY ????? WE JUST GOT 17 MILES and he would be happy to have 3 or 4 miles with the antenna on the tail light?

CB guy VS Jeep guy I guess

so I said ok it's your jeep.... he said he has had the CB for a couple months and has not talked to a sole... he hears people talking but doesn't talk to them..... he just wanted to talk to our group of friends when we go out, not strangers.

I still want to make the video of the Stryker on the hood talking to my base and my mobile before finishing my YouTube video....so we left that on the hood with a weather cap and he went home...

I turned on the base again he sounded good on AM for about 2.5 miles then it really went down hill fast..... the conditions were not as good as the morning.. lot of skip coming in now at 2:00PM .. I was able to talk to him on my base for about 5.5 miles... TERRIBLE!

I'm more than willing to buy him the Larsen NMO 34 and 64" whip and the NMO mount/cable and put it on the hood... but he has to live with it... so we shall see next week when he comes to film the range tests and finish my video.
 

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my friend came over yesterday.... I have not ordered the parts for the Larsen as I wanted to see how thick the hood was where I need to mount the NMO mount... the hood was just flat sheet metal like a car roof so I don't have to order the extended longer mount.

I can't believe how GREAT that Stryker SAR-10 works on the hood.... at 9:00AM my friend was driving to my house so I turned on the Base station and the conditions were very quiet... I tried him on AM but could not get him. I called him on the phone and said try FM...... the Radioddity CS-47 dead keys 6.90 watts on AM and 15 watts on FM....
he said we was at exit XX and I know that's about 16 to 17 miles away... I said you out there Pete??? he came back very clear... I could hear him and we had a nice talk... he wasn't really loud but he was moving my signal meter, and on FM I could hear him clearly and easily! .. at 14 miles I had him go to AM ...I could hear him but it was not as clear .. and had more background noise so I told him to go back to FM... we talked for 20 minutes until he got to my house... that FM is really clear!!!! and that Stryker really does a hell of a job.

I showed him the Scarlett warrior CB antenna on a magnet mount has a great SWR of 1.2 to 1.4 on my Ford hood or plumbing van hood or even his Jeep hood... so it's working fine.. he even stuck the magnet to the little 5 inch wide X 10 inch long Jeep fender and it still had a great SWR....
we installed all new good quality CB cables from Walcott and bolted the antenna to the tail light mount... it had a SWR 3.1 to 3.5 ... so we drilled the 3/8 hole into the jeep tub through the tail light bracket, the SWR didn't change... so we took the bracket off the jeep and enlarged the hole to 1/2".... grinded all the paint off the bracket put it back on the jeep and enlarged the hole in the jeep to 1/2" .... grinded all the paint off the jeep put the star washers on both sides.. and wow the SWR dropped to 1.7 - 1.9
we took it out in the middle of a field and cut the whip... best I could do was 1.6 to 1.8 but I was happy to at least get the tail light bracket to work!!!!

I told my friend without the metal under it he will be lucky to get a few miles... he said he would be fine with that as he really didn't like the antenna on the hood?????
REALLY ????? WE JUST GOT 17 MILES and he would be happy to have 3 or 4 miles with the antenna on the tail light?

CB guy VS Jeep guy I guess

so I said ok it's your jeep.... he said he has had the CB for a couple months and has not talked to a sole... he hears people talking but doesn't talk to them..... he just wanted to talk to our group of friends when we go out, not strangers.

I still want to make the video of the Stryker on the hood talking to my base and my mobile before finishing my YouTube video....so we left that on the hood with a weather cap and he went home...

I turned on the base again he sounded good on AM for about 2.5 miles then it really went down hill fast..... the conditions were not as good as the morning.. lot of skip coming in now at 2:00PM .. I was able to talk to him on my base for about 5.5 miles... TERRIBLE!

I'm more than willing to buy him the Larsen NMO 34 and 64" whip and the NMO mount/cable and put it on the hood... but he has to live with it... so we shall see next week when he comes to film the range tests and finish my video.

mmckenna

must be selling a lot of Larsen NMO 34 and 64 inch antenna's from his link to the antenna farm....

I decided to order the Larsen and "try to talk my friend into it" the guy at the Antenna farm said they are back ordered, as people seem to be mixing and matching the NMO 34 and the 64" antenna whips... I talked to a guy with some questions a few weeks ago and told him what I was doing..... he thought it was odd???...and asked WHY ... I explained it being taller it may work better?
so today I'm not sure if it was the same guy... but he told me they have sold out of both as people are doing some weird mixing of those parts, ha ha!!!!

here is a picture of the new huge new 1/2" bolt... it doesn't look huge but it is!!!!..... picture of the SWR of the Scarlett warrior antenna on any vehicle hood I place it on, it's always excellent....
also a picture of the Scarlett Warrior Antenna on the jeep when it finally got a little ground plane.....

I bought a NMO magnetic mount so I can try to adjust the SWR on the Larsen NMO 34 and 64" whip and try it out before my friend comes over with the jeep....

should be interesting... I'll let everyone know.
 

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must be selling a lot of Larsen NMO 34 and 64 inch antenna's from his link to the antenna farm....

I wish.

Just passing on what I've heard from others. I have zero intent, need, or desire to install a CB in my truck, but if I ever did, I'd give that coil/whip combination a try.
 

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well it FINALLY arrived... my NMO 34 and 64 inch whip.... but I found a broken O-ring in the package???? is it supposed to be broken? I called "The Antenna Farm" and waited for over an hour... seems they only answer their phones certain days of the week.

I also found a small black spring on the floor..... I screwed the 64" whip to the NMO34 base and set the base on the floor .... when I looked down there was a small black spring on the floor??? I "think" it must have come out of something?

so is the o-ring supposed to be split? I highly doubt it??
is there a spring under a NMO coil??

I know nothing about putting these together and there are no instructions.

thank you
 

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well it FINALLY arrived... my NMO 34 and 64 inch whip.... but I found a broken O-ring in the package???? is it supposed to be broken? I called "The Antenna Farm" and waited for over an hour... seems they only answer their phones certain days of the week.

They seem to be hit or miss.

I also found a small black spring on the floor..... I screwed the 64" whip to the NMO34 base and set the base on the floor .... when I looked down there was a small black spring on the floor??? I "think" it must have come out of something?

The spring isn't from the antenna whip or coil.

so is the o-ring supposed to be split? I highly doubt it??

No, it's not, but you have the larger gasket, which is the one you want to use. I've got a jar full of those little O-rings because I never use them. The larger diameter one gives you better sealing.


is there a spring under a NMO coil??

No, should be a flat tab.

I know nothing about putting these together and there are no instructions.

Right. The whip goes in the cone on top of the coil. That is pretty much the extent of the instructions.

Since you are using this 'off label', the cutting chart won't do you any good. You'll want to use an antenna analyzer to tune this.
 

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They seem to be hit or miss.



The spring isn't from the antenna whip or coil.



No, it's not, but you have the larger gasket, which is the one you want to use. I've got a jar full of those little O-rings because I never use them. The larger diameter one gives you better sealing.




No, should be a flat tab.



Right. The whip goes in the cone on top of the coil. That is pretty much the extent of the instructions.

Since you are using this 'off label', the cutting chart won't do you any good. You'll want to use an antenna analyzer to tune this.
mmckenna
thank you, your always helpful
 
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