AR-DV1 AR-DV1 - GSSI upgrade - observations

rumcajs_tr

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Hi,
I thought I could share some of my observations regarding the GSSI upgrade as I have a huge unencrypted TETRA network available so can test it.

START:
The GSSI MONITOR itself starts as described in the manual - it is ok to tune ANY TETRA frequency in VFO mode with T-TC mode and as soon as you long-press the SCAN button, the DV1 switches to MONITOR mode and evaluates the TETRA frequency. If the selected frequency is not the one with MCCH, the receiver automatically changes the frequency to the frequency with TETRA control channel - the one with MCCH - within the the specific LA (Location Area). LA is the area within radio coverage of a base station within which a mobile station is allowed to operate. In other words, the DV1 finds the control channel for the same LA as was the original frequency. However, keep in mind, that a large TETRA network usually has many LAs and not all station calls are routed to all LAs. For example calls from users, which operate only within city centre are routed only to LAs, which are situated (covering) the city centre. So if you tune to an LA located outside the centre, you won't hear these stations from city centre. So, always spend some time for finding the most active LA or the LA of your interest. Hint - use SDR# and TETRA plugin.

FIRST USE:
At first, you are presented empty favorite list and by pressing CLR, you switch to GSSI LIST (non favorite) and also press MODE button to switch from SNG to MUL mode (which means receive all GSSIs not only the one highlighted). The GSSI list starts to populate as soon as the GSSI is active (speaking).

ADDING AND NAMING FAVORITES:
When you select any GSSI in the "GSSI LIST" screen and press ENT, the selected GSSI is moved to the favorite list. When you long press ENT again on it in the favorite list, you are given a possibility to edit the name tag for the selected GSSI - however, here is the first "trick" - when you are in the proces of editing the alphanumeric characters for the name of the GSSI and another GSSI becomes active, the GSSI number changes and you find yourself suddenly naming the new GSSI instead of the original one. It only happens if you have MUL selected so don't forget to switch to SNG prior to naming a GSSI. One would expect the receiver to keep the GSSI number once you enter editing mode even in MUL mode, so you just have to keep thinking about this feature.

USING THE FAVORITE LIST:
As soon as you have few GSSIs on the favorite list, you can switch between "favorite" screen and "GSSI LIST" screen. Be careful as the receiver NEVER receives both lists simultaneously. When you are in the favorite screen and even when you have MUL enabled, you only hear those GSSIs, which are on the favorite list, but you don't hear any other GSSIs. On the opposite, when you are in the "GSSI LIST" screen, you only hear the GSSIs, which are NOT on the favorite list (unassigned) and you don't hear any GSSIs which are already on the favorite lists. The good thing is, that even when you are in the favorite screen, and you don't hear any non-favorite GSSIs, the GSSIs numbers are still being recorded in the background on the GSSI LIST and can be displayed later by switching to this screen - so you you can keep collecting the GSSIs in the background while listening to the favorites, it is just hard to tell later which one is which as you don't hear the audio when the GSSI is active as I mentioned.

TRACKING THE CALLS:
Yes, the MONITOR mode is able to track the selected GSSI call across the frequencies for the specific LA. So the call starts on one frequency and then goes on on another frequency and the DV1 is able to track it correctly. Definitely something you can't do without the upgrade - if you are in the VFO mode, you just "sit" on a specific frequency, so sometimes you only hear part of the call. As soon as the call finishes, the MONITOR returns to the control channel (the frequency with MCCH).

So far, these are my observations for today, if you have any questions, feel free to ask.
The TETRA network is not in my home city so I can test it only about once per week when I travel to the area, but I will try to test anything.
 
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Ok, here is another small update to my observations:

LISTEN TO NON ENCRYPTED CALLS ONLY:
As we know, the DV1 doesn't block the encrypted speech in the normal VFO T-TC mode when tuned to TETRA frequency. It is very annoying especially with mixed TETRA system with encrypted and clear groups. It looks like one of the features of the GSSI monitor upgrade is actually the possibility to filter only clear speech and mute encrypted calls. It is a side effect of the behavior described in my previous post about receiving GSSIs.
Because the GSSI in the encrypted call is not decoded by the monitor mode AND at the same time, because in the monitor GSSI mode, the receiver only outputs audio for decoded GSSIs (in favorite screen or GSSI LIST screen), the result is that the receiver only output clear audio to speakers with the GSSI upgrade.
 

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ARC DV1 PRO has some special features when used with the GSSi Upgrade, you can also see and log network Tetra MCC, MNC, CC , carrier freq data and log data using the sweep function: ARC DV1 PRO GSSI info

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Thanks for you info. I am stupid as I purchased ARC DV1 (non PRO) version and I would now like to have the PRO, however, I dodn't find any upgrade option. Do I have to pay the PRO in full again?
 

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Maybe you could do a test to see if your stored favourite GSSI list gets half wiped out when powered down like mine does. I cant keep it powered on all the time. When power is switched favourite GSSI's are lost and replaced with a bunch of numbers that dont make sense.
 

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Before I bought the DV1 I used SDR Sharp with TTT to listen to trunked Tetra communication. What I notice when communication is not on the main frequency and a user releases the PTT button, TTT waits a while for new communication at that frequency before returning to the main. The DV1 does not, it returns immediately to the main again. Therefore you might miss the first second of the next user that pushes the PTT at the NOT main frequency.

Another interesting thing: Half a year ago there was very good propagation and my scanner was tuned to a Tetra main frequency. 100 kilometres away from here another Tetra system was active at the same frequency. But at that system that frequency was not the main and so the scanner tuned to the main frequency from that foreign system. Result, you suddenly listen to a complete different tetra network. Actually it is desired to be able to lock the MNC besides the GSSI.
 

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TTT waits a while for new communication at that frequency before returning to the main. The DV1 does not, it returns immediately to the main again.
It can be set individually to each TG in the system by the system admin. In the local tetra system here the critical TG's stay on the same time slot during the whole conversation back and forth. The non-critical TG's goes directly to the control channel slot when a users PTT are released. That way it releases time slots capacity to critical users much quicker while non-critical ones might have to wait for a free slot to become available.

/Ubbe
 

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What i notice for last 5 years testing DV1 and TTT, 80% the same users switch to the same LA. What i do, program those LA's in to a scan bank and do it the "old way" like we all did 20 years ago, scanning :)
 

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What i did notice is SDR tetra TTT can decode private call as well as talkgroup but the DV1 doesn't. The DV1 is more talkgroup. Another interesting thing i noticed is when DV1 is on favourite GSSI it suddenly makes a weird noise like a trumpet for about less than a second. I know nothing else is transmitting because i had SDR on just out of curiosity. Must be a flaw in AOR's GSSI. And lastly the SDR hang time can be adjusted
 

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What i notice for last 5 years testing DV1 and TTT, 80% the same users switch to the same LA. What i do, program those LA's in to a scan bank and do it the "old way" like we all did 20 years ago, scanning :)
That's ok if theres no encrypted mixed with clear. That would drive me mad listing to Star Trek Klingon, "Mr Wharf"
 

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Maybe you could do a test to see if your stored favourite GSSI list gets half wiped out when powered down like mine does. I cant keep it powered on all the time. When power is switched favourite GSSI's are lost and replaced with a bunch of numbers that dont make sense.
You are right. My favorite GSSI records 1-10 are stored OK but records 11 and above gets wiped out - in my case, the name is just empty. Happens only when I power down the receiver AND after that unplug the power. Definitely a firmware bug.
 

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We paid for that upgrade and should we report this, and to who? At the end of the day its flawed and maybe they should need to know this
 

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There is an email contact on aorja page - mail@aorja.com
But I will rather send AOR detailed report through my local dealer as these emails are taken more seriously.
There are some other things to fix - for example bad 8.33 kHz step calculation when in search mode (the receiver gets slightly off frequency after some time of searching ... in VFO mode it is OK). I plan to do some detailed write-up of the FW bugs and pass it to my AOR dealer when I find time to do it.
 

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Yes they have still flaws in the firmware that they haven't fixed. Like loosing GSSI after power down on a paid upgrade is one of many. Maybe they just cant be bothered anymore with DV1. Is it getting too old for anything else to be added and running out of memory?
 

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If any DV1 owners with Tetra GSSI can double check to see if they loose any of their favourites when powering down. Firstly go out of the GSSI list menu and onto VFO and then power off and back on after a few minutes. See if any favourites is lost. The reason why im asking is AOR says this doesn't happen and no favourites will be wiped or lost. It does with me is what i replied.
 

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I reported the loosing GSSI from the paid upgrade to AOR but they simply said i was wrong, said that doesnt happen. They basically emailed me back and said that they check everything and they're right and I'm wrong.
 
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