Calls - Listening via Individual Nodes no longer available

[blantonl]

This is Far from ideal and I think you are risking running your website into the ground, after a nearly 30 years great run. Oh well, it wouldn't be the first time a bad idea has destroyed something good. And after you burn it to the ground, people will wonder for a while how you could have ever thought it was a good idea, then they will just go find something else to do and forget about you. Because I promise you there is always the next big thing.

LOL ok. Thanks for the feedback.

You know you could just navigate in the coverage browser to the talkgroup in the state/county and add it to your playlist there.

But just so you're aware, we are working on ways to better enhance the workflow of playlist creation so we don't inadvertently "burn it all to the ground." It has indeed been a great run over the past 30 years and I'd hate for this bad idea of Broadcastify calls and the current playlist creation process to have us cast aside into the trash bin of history. That would be unfortunate.

 

[Indianabrad]

You know you could just navigate in the coverage browser to the talkgroup in the state/county and add it to your playlist there.

That must be on some other page, b\c I sure didn't see anything like that where I was at. Bottom line, it's way too convoluted. Also you have already made a lot of people mad, so I wouldn't laugh too hard.

 

[blantonl]

That must be on some other page, b\c I sure didn't see anything like that where I was at. Bottom line, it's way too convoluted. Also you have already made a lot of people mad, so I wouldn't laugh too hard.

This is a terrible development and I must rectify this immediately. The future of the business depends on me assigning a maximum amount of resources in the minimum amount of time, or this anger that people feel towards me with regards to the convoluted process will metastasize into cancer that will decimate the business and relegate us to the trash bin of has-been Web sites that didn't innovate. It's do or die time - we are committed to surviving Brad!

With that said, here are some screenshots for you to help you.

From the coverage browser here:

Broadcastify Calls Coverage



From the All Talkgroups captured on the system:

Talkgroups Seen on System: Tippecanoe County (P25)

Broadcastify Calls System Status - Talkgroups Seen

www.broadcastify.com

I think this should help. Let me know if you need any further help, or you have any further feedback on the state of the business or further warnings about our impending demise. We are committed to insuring that our customers, partners, broadcasters and listeners have the best possible experience in the scanning and radio communications industries and we will not stop short of providing world class products and features to our clients. Rest assured the management team has heard you loud and clear, and it's all hands on deck here IndianaBrad. We will not let you down!!

 

[Indianabrad]

With that said, here are some screenshots for you to help you.

Now take that stupid worthless search page down that throws every TG on BDFY together and you will be good to go, so other people don't land on it.

 

[blantonl]

Now take that stupid worthless search page down that throws every TG on BDFY together and you will be good to go, so other people don't land on it.

What is "BDFY" ? I'm not familiar with this term, acronym etc. You're much more knowledgeable about this stuff than me, so I'm going to need you to point me in the right direction on what this term means and how I'm supposed to act upon your request. Screenshots would definitely be helpful Brad. Thanks.

 

[blantonl]

Why the thumbs down Brad?

 

[mikewazowski]

Is Brad the male version of a Karen?

 

[rjdj2000]

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I think this should help. Let me know if you need any further help, or you have any further feedback on the state of the business or further warnings about our impending demise. We are committed to insuring that our customers, partners, broadcasters and listeners have the best possible experience in the scanning and radio communications industries and we will not stop short of providing world class products and features to our clients. Rest assured the management team has heard you loud and clear, and it's all hands on deck here IndianaBrad. We will not let you down!!

Now what would be nice to have and possibly this idea is in development, is to have a 'bulk' add to playlist so there is a checkbox next to all talkgroups that when checked, you can add them to a playlist and not have to do so much clicking to ad them to a playlist. If this is coming, then disregard this message.

While on the playlist issue, with us supposedly not being able to listen to our calls page like we used to and what not, is there going to ever be a max # TG that can be added to a playlist? I know it has recent;y been bumped from 20 to 30 but was wondering if it was going to get to say like 100 and that is what the final figure will be. I know it is a work in progress and small steps at a time. Will be nice to see some more backend information available to us providers once that section gets updated.

 

[blantonl]

Now what would be nice to have and possibly this idea is in development, is to have a 'bulk' add to playlist so there is a checkbox next to all talkgroups that when checked, you can add them to a playlist and not have to do so much clicking to ad them to a playlist. If this is coming, then disregard this message.

This is what is in development

 

[mtindor]

Now what would be nice to have and possibly this idea is in development, is to have a 'bulk' add to playlist so there is a checkbox next to all talkgroups that when checked, you can add them to a playlist and not have to do so much clicking to ad them to a playlist. If this is coming, then disregard this message.

While on the playlist issue, with us supposedly not being able to listen to our calls page like we used to and what not, is there going to ever be a max # TG that can be added to a playlist? I know it has recent;y been bumped from 20 to 30 but was wondering if it was going to get to say like 100 and that is what the final figure will be. I know it is a work in progress and small steps at a time. Will be nice to see some more backend information available to us providers once that section gets updated.

You do realize that you can still listen to your calls page. Just other people cannot do that and need to use playlists

Of course, maybe that’ll go away at some point too, but at least for now you can still listen to your calls if you are on your node

 

[blantonl]

While on the playlist issue, with us supposedly not being able to listen to our calls page like we used to and what not, is there going to ever be a max # TG that can be added to a playlist? I know it has recent;y been bumped from 20 to 30 but was wondering if it was going to get to say like 100 and that is what the final figure will be. I know it is a work in progress and small steps at a time. Will be nice to see some more backend information available to us providers once that section gets updated.

I would not be so focused on this. It's probably going to stay where it is. 30 talkgroups per playlist fits the vast majority of use cases. If I gave you 100 talkgroups, you'd ask for 500. If I gave you 500 talkgroups, you'd ask for 4,000. I would focus on managing your use cases around this limitation, and that means creating multiple playlists.

I know that some of you want to setup command centers where you're gonna want to consume absolutely every radio transmission and call across the United States and have 420,000 talkgroups all being monitored , but there literally are technical limits to this, and we're also proceeding very slowly and deliberately because there isn't anything like this in operation right now.

I have a lot of great visions around how calls is going to progress, so I can say is be patient and know that I too personally have some really cool use cases I want to pursue that are just as advanced and aggressive as yours.

 

[blantonl]

Of course, maybe that’ll go away at some point too, but at least for now you can still listen to your calls if you are on your node

I cannot emphasize enough to you, that unless you are on a node that is the single node capturing calls for a system, that this is not recommended and there is a good chance you are going to miss the traffic you are expecting on the site you are capturing.

Talkgroups are voted on individually, so you are probably going to miss traffic.

The only reason why I've left this in place is so you could monitor the QUALITY of groups that are received by your node. That's it.

 

[mtindor]

I cannot emphasize enough to you, that unless you are on a node that is the single node capturing calls for a system, that this is not recommended and there is a good chance you are going to miss the traffic you are expecting on the site you are capturing.

Talkgroups are voted on individually, so you are probably going to miss traffic.

The only reason why I've left this in place is so you could monitor the QUALITY of groups that are received by your node. That's it.

Umm. I'm not monitoring my node. I monitor my playlist. I was just suggesting that, at least for now, the "Play Live" button still exists and it is possible to monitor one's node in that fashion. I'm not doing that and haven't been. I switched to playlists.

So you really don't have to emphasize anything to me I get it, boss. I switched to playlists and have been quite happy!

Mike

 

[blantonl]

You do realize that you can still listen to your calls page. Just other people cannot do that and need to use playlists

Mike, you said this above, and so the reason for my message above is to make sure that people understand the reason why we left it for node providers but removed it from the general public. It is very conceivable that someone will read into your comment and then either complain about why we aren't making it available or node providers will continue to monitor their nodes thinking they are listening to everything they are capturing and then complain that they aren't seeing that behavior.

The calls system is very complex and there has already been a ton of misconceptions because of the complexity, and is going to require us (me) to carefully manage user behavior and expectations at the same time rolling out a lot of needed usability improvements.

 

[blantonl]

Don't forget we got freaking Brad up there all pissed off telling us we're circling the drain, so.....

 

[rjdj2000]

This is what is in development

Sounds good... Will be glad to see it and whatever else is coming along the way.

You do realize that you can still listen to your calls page. Just other people cannot do that and need to use playlists

Of course, maybe that’ll go away at some point too, but at least for now you can still listen to your calls if you are on your node

Yes I know that and I still do but I have tried to use the Systemwide calls page as being the only person sending call in for the node, I get everything on either.

I cannot emphasize enough to you, that unless you are on a node that is the single node capturing calls for a system, that this is not recommended and there is a good chance you are going to miss the traffic you are expecting on the site you are capturing.

Talkgroups are voted on individually, so you are probably going to miss traffic.

The only reason why I've left this in place is so you could monitor the QUALITY of groups that are received by your node. That's it.

I think at the moment the only thing I've missed for calls are those that come back to back so fast that the system thinks it is a duplicate. I can turn on another computer to feed into the node but I think I get duplicates while listening to the node. So it is probably not best to do that.

Don't forget we got freaking Brad up there all pissed off telling us we're circling the drain, so.....

a) it better be a big drain and who the hell pulled the handle?

 

[RenoHuskerDu]

We've disabled listening via individual nodes, except for node owners.

Now that we rolled out our new call management back end system which votes on nodes for individual talkgroups, we've received a ton of support requests from people listening via individual nodes that they no longer hear talkgroups on nodes.

Given that a node is not guaranteed to supply a talkgroup to Calls, there is no viable reason for us to enable listening via an individual node any longer, except to allow node owners the ability to monitor the quality of traffic received by their node.

Node Owners: if your node is not capturing talkgroups for specific talkgroups, DO NOT BE DISCOURAGED. You are encouraged to keep broadcasting your node, because the system constantly votes and reevaluates, and another person's node may go offline for a period of time. The health of the network only gets stronger when we have lots of nodes participating in the system.

I'm premium and I listen mainly to my local node 2247 where I am a volunteer fireman. If a fire/EMS call comes in I often hear it before my app alerts me. As I live a ways away from the station, every minute gained matters.

You say I need to create a playlist now. It's not clear to me why you made this change but I reckon you have reasons. Can you provide instructions please on how to create a playlist to hear node 2247? Ideally I would like to hear only my local GATRRS tower node 2247 which is Bertram. I don't need to hear other areas, but it's useful to listen to nearby fire depts nodes (2250, 2248} and what calls they are running, because we do go back them up on big fires.

Thank you.

 

[blantonl]

I'm premium and I listen mainly to my local node 2247 where I am a volunteer fireman. If a fire/EMS call comes in I often hear it before my app alerts me. As I live a ways away from the station, every minute gained matters.

You say I need to create a playlist now. It's not clear to me why you made this change but I reckon you have reasons. Can you provide instructions please on how to create a playlist to hear node 2247? Ideally I would like to hear only my local GATRRS tower node 2247 which is Bertram. I don't need to hear other areas, but it's useful to listen to nearby fire depts nodes (2250, 2248} and what calls they are running, because we do go back them up on big fires.

Thank you.

Go in there and create a playlist with the Fire Department talkgroups you want to monitor. You don't create a playlist to monitor a node, you great a playlist to monitor specific talkgroups or agencies.

create a playlist here: Broadcastify Calls Playlists

Go to the coverage browser here: Broadcastify Calls Coverage

Drill down into the coverage by location and service type section (Texas > the county > fire dispatch / tac etc) and click on each talkgroup and choose "Add to Playlist"

OR

You can go to that node and watch the talkgroups as the flow in, and just click on them and choose "Add to playlist"

 

[K3HY]

Go in there and create a playlist with the Fire Department talkgroups you want to monitor. You don't create a playlist to monitor a node, you great a playlist to monitor specific talkgroups or agencies.

create a playlist here: Broadcastify Calls Playlists

Go to the coverage browser here: Broadcastify Calls Coverage

Drill down into the coverage by location and service type section (Texas > the county > fire dispatch / tac etc) and click on each talkgroup and choose "Add to Playlist"

OR

You can go to that node and watch the talkgroups as the flow in, and just click on them and choose "Add to playlist"

I can play an individual node on my internet radio. Using for example: http://username:password@audio.broadcastify.com/28933.mp3
What link would I use for a systemwide playlist similar to what I have used with an individual node?

 

[blantonl]

I can play an individual node on my internet radio. Using for example: http://username:password@audio.broadcastify.com/28933.mp3
What link would I use for a systemwide playlist similar to what I have used with an individual node?

I’m sorry but this isn’t how calls works, you can only listen to a playlist through your web browser.

additionally, the link above is to an individual feed, not a Broadcastify “node”