CFD Apparatus status discussion (Non-Radio Information)

CFD-ERFT

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Thanks for the warm welcome to the forum.

I will chime in here and there where I can shed some light on the apparatus of the CFD!
 

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Welcome to the thread CFD-ERFT!!!!!!!!
I really don't want to burst anyones bubble here, but if CFD can't get the money back for there recruiting classes or even put an Aerial or #22 Rescue in the new Station #32, I don't think there going to be opening station #40 any time soon...
And shouldn't that be Station #36 re-open not Station #40!?!?!?
 
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Welcome to the thread CFD-ERFT!!!!!!!!
I really don't want to burst anyones bubble here, but if CFD can't get the money back for there recruiting classes or even put an Aerial or #22 Rescue in the new Station #32, I don't think there going to be opening station #40 any time soon...
And shouldn't that be Station #36 re-open not Station #40!?!?!?

Budget for the opening/staffing of 40 was approved in previous budget cycles and will therefore not be affected by budget considerations. Funding is in place, and a piece of apparatus has now been assigned to the station.

There is also a big difference in terms of budget allocations for re-deployment of apparatus and adding staff to existing stations in comparison to the initial manning requirements of a newly costructed station.

As far ar being a 36 station re-open, no. This is a whole new station that is being strategically placed to meet response needs within that part of the city. 36 station will continue to operate as normal, 40 station in no way replaces 36.

Expect to hear Engine 40 on the air by the end of the month.
 

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Budget for the opening/staffing of 40 was approved in previous budget cycles and will therefore not be affected by budget considerations. Funding is in place, and a piece of apparatus has now been assigned to the station.
Thank you for clearing that up CFD-ERFT!!!
Would you happen to know if this is a residential fire house or an actual station???
Also would you happen to know what Apparatus would be placed in that station?
And do you know if Engine #25 is still running as a Quint, or was the Tower Ladder put back in-service as a Aerial??

And you may find this useful, just scroll to the bottom..... http://calgaryinfrastructure.ca/pdf/2010-2019_cpriip_and_eriip_booklet.pdf
,Thanks
 

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Thank you for clearing that up CFD-ERFT!!!
Would you happen to know if this is a residential fire house or an actual station???
Also would you happen to know what Apparatus would be placed in that station?
And do you know if Engine #25 is still running as a Quint, or was the Tower Ladder put back in-service as a Aerial??

And you may find this useful, just scroll to the bottom..... http://calgaryinfrastructure.ca/pdf/2010-2019_cpriip_and_eriip_booklet.pdf
,Thanks

Station 40 is another residential style fire station very simmilar to #38 in Skyview Ranch. I do know the apparatus that is slated to go there, but I'm unfortunately not at liberty to post it publically. All I can say is that it is an existing piece of apparatus that has been shuffled in, not a new truck.

Engine 25 is indeed still running as a quint with a six man crew at this time.

Hope that helps.
 

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There is/was chatter this morning from 57 and 58 station on C12. With them being up that high on the Tac channels, it was more than likely a training exercise - but I was just curious if they were being moved over similar to Cochrane.

Edit: Looks like this is the working Tac channel for the train derailment north of Airdre.
 
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The Cochrane move to C16 was a plan devised by the Cochrane department. Their radio guy shared with me a number of reasons for the move, including no longer having to rely on the aging infrastructure at the Big Hill tower (which links all the UHF Rockyview comms such as Redwood, Madden, Irricana, Langdon, etc to Calgary), as well as lessening the number of channels the dispatcher has to listen to. As well, it serves to offer a level of interoperability to Cochrane, as they are now on the same channel, essentially, as their adjacent counterparts (Springbank etc).

Cochrane is actually still on their 400MHz frequencies; there is a hardware patch between that channel and C16, made at the Cochrane radio tower site at the top of the Cochrane hill. Let me see if I have the frequencies handy.

424.1625 100.0 PL Cochrane C16 Link
422.9250 151.4 PL Redwood C16 Link

Those two channels are linked together and also to C16. The 424MHz frequency is on the Cochrane hill and the 422MHz frequency is at Redwood's firehall.

Anyway, this is all a roundabout way of saying I doubt Airdrie will be moving off their existing VHF comms any time soon.
 

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Thank you CFD-ERFT!!
Could you possibly tell us where and when Station #39 is going into operation???
And what ever happened to Station's #3 & 27??
Thanks so much!
 

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Thanks Jay. From the looks of the radio IDs in use, it was simply a patch with AES as every one of the Airdre based units had the exact same radio ID.
 

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Thank you CFD-ERFT!!
Could you possibly tell us where and when Station #39 is going into operation???
And what ever happened to Station's #3 & 27??
Thanks so much!

#39 is not yet constructed, but it has been designated as a new station in south Calgary, likely in the Seton area, as a permanent station must be built there prior to the opening of the new south hospital. It is important to note that the funding for this station is approved and this station will be built in the near future.

#3 was simply re-named #36 when some of the organizational changes took place late last year. The "#3" has been held in reserve for the East core fire station...again not yet under construction but slated to go in the east part of the downtown core in years to come. The east core station remains unfunded as of yet, so we may not hear #3 on the air any time soon.

#27 station at the south end of the airport was closed a couple of years ago due to health concerns with the station itself. Engine #27 remains in service and was simply re-housed at #13. Despite being in quarters at #13 it is still called Engine #27. Adjustments were made to the fire response districts as a result of this move.

There will be more shake ups at the airport in the next year or so as the closure of Barlow Trail will severely impact response capabilities to the north part of the airport, the terminal, and the NE industrial immediately north of the airport. There is planning in place for a NE Industrial/Airport firehall to correct this, however again, funding remains unsecured for this project. In the interim I would expect to see #38 out of Skyview Ranch flagged for more responses to YYC and surrounding area.
 

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FYI...#40 Station officially opens at 07:30 August 5th...

Hey guys.
First time poster, i have to say I'm a long time looker. And i have to say thanks for for all the information and pictures.

I work up in sage (for a home builder), and i know the road to the satation #40 was completed last weekend but i have not notice anything going on beside that. Any info will help.

I'll give info when i can. And thanks again.
 

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Based on my radio ID records, Engine 40 is currently using E2190 - but that radio may have moved trucks as it looks like a spare radio ID.
 

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This isn't Calgary related but since the Airdrie stuff is falling in this thread, I figured this fits too.

My reception from Bragg Creek is strangely improved overnight and today. I'm getting lots of strong signals that should be distant and faint. One thing I'm hearing is either testing or fireground activity on Airdrie's old EMS repeater (171.27 PL 100.0).
 

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Either the hot weather or the solar flares that caused the aurora lately have been good for VHF skip. Places far north that I never hear are coming in loud and clear.
 

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Station #40 is indeed open...it sort of looks like an outpost, so maybe that is why it doesn't look like much is going on. But they are in service. And yes, they are currently using a spare truck as their permanent rig was not quite ready yet...
 

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Welcome to the thread jcornell12!!
Thank you very much for the info CFD-ERFT!!!
Would you also happen to know when all of the new 16 Rosenbauer Engine's are going to be placed in service??
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For the last week or 2, I've noticed PSC has been dispatching a safety Engine instead of an Aerial to MVAs and Highway Public Hazard calls. Anyone know if this is a permanent switch in policy or just a temporary thing?
 

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For the last week or 2, I've noticed PSC has been dispatching a safety Engine instead of an Aerial to MVAs and Highway Public Hazard calls. Anyone know if this is a permanent switch in policy or just a temporary thing?
I would assume this is a policy change, because you can have 4 firefighters on scene instead of 2 and you also have an extra 500 gallons of water if you need it to

This popped up today: SADDLE RIDGE MULTI-SERVICES CENTRE OFFICIALLY OPEN / The City of Calgary Newsroom
 
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I would assume this is a policy change, because you can have 4 firefighters on scene instead of 2 and you also have an extra 500 gallons of water if you need it to

This popped up today: SADDLE RIDGE MULTI-SERVICES CENTRE OFFICIALLY OPEN / The City of Calgary Newsroom

This is a new dispatch protocol based on the current shortage of aerials in the city. It is no longer practical to have an aerial tied up at a traffic call as an SSV. Therefore a second engine is now usually sent. It also dramatically reduces the wear and tear on the aerials, as these long hard runs have proven to be inappropriate for them from a maintenance and longevity perspective.

Also, ENGINE_4, the new Rosenbauer's have not yet arrived, but they are expected any time now. I would think the first batch should be in service by late fall.
 
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