Delaware County Pa New System

[radio3353]

January 2022

 

[maus92]

Sorry for the typo. The award decision to be made in March 2022.

 

[mtindor]

DELAWARE, COUNTY OF
WRPP283 / WRPP284 / WRPP285 / WRPP286
22-site Phase II P25 simulcast

770.10625
770.53125
770.79375
771.09375
771.33125
771.95625
772.38125
773.20625
773.63125

Looks like a two-year plan to completion
- From FCC: ULS Application - Trunked Public Safety 700 MHz - 0009931638 - DELAWARE, COUNTY OF - Attachments

Google Map of Simulcast

 

[TerryPavlick]

Sorry for the typo. The award decision to be made in March 2022.

New licenses have been issued.

WRPP283

along with 3 others

 

[maus92]

75W mobiles on 700, hmm...

 

[HM1529]

I find the placement of these two sites kinda strange. They are one mile apart. Concordville and Thornton.

 

[maus92]

I find the placement of these two sites kinda strange. They are one mile apart. Concordville and Thornton.
View attachment 118418

Could be using directional antennas / downtilt to shape their coverage area.

Edit: The Concordville site is def using a direction antenna, pointed NE with a 90° BW.
Edit 2: Thornton also has a 90° BW, but no orientation is noted in the license.

 

[rgchristy]

Could be using directional antennas / downtilt to shape their coverage area.

Edit: The Concordville site is def using a direction antenna, pointed NE with a 90° BW.
Edit 2: Thornton also has a 90° BW, but no orientation is noted in the license.

From page 3 of the Region 28 approval:

 

[mtindor]

I find the placement of these two sites kinda strange. They are one mile apart. Concordville and Thornton.
View attachment 118418

I type in coords manually. I could have gotten some wrong. I'll check

I checked. Coords are right. Towers exist right at each location, and each of the location descriptions match up. So I have no clue what they are up to.

 

[TerryPavlick]

From page 3 of the Region 28 approval:

View attachment 118430

Rich

Do you have a link to the full document? I see a reference to a site in Brookhaven and am trying to find additional information about it.

Thanks

Terry

 

[mtindor]

Rich

Do you have a link to the full document? I see a reference to a site in Brookhaven and am trying to find additional information about it.

Thanks

Terry

Brookhaven (FCC records) aka Middletown Fire (Region 28 approval) - 39°52'38.4"N 75°24'22.7"W · Middletown Township, PA . It's on a tower owned by Disruptor Radio, LLC (which I'm guessing is WVCH).

 

[maus92]

Rich

Do you have a link to the full document? I see a reference to a site in Brookhaven and am trying to find additional information about it.

Thanks

Terry

The FCC database for the various SY licenses for the system has the documentation.

 

[Jl942264]

Have they awarded the contract yet? I heard Motorola didn't bid until the second release..

 

[maus92]

Have they awarded the contract yet? I heard Motorola didn't bid until the second release..

Supposed to be April. I’m not sure how tower siting can be finalized before a contract like this is awarded - seems risky if the fix isn’t in.

 

[GTR8000]

Supposed to be April. I’m not sure how tower siting can be finalized before a contract like this is awarded - seems risky if the fix isn’t in.

So, you think that only the manufacturer can figure out where the RF subsites should be located? You don't think that there are well established industry standards and plotting software, and that 99% of agencies or counties looking to build out these systems don't first retain the services of consultants that specialize in RF?

 

[maus92]

So, you think that only the manufacturer can figure out where the RF subsites should be located? You don't think that there are well established industry standards and plotting software, and that 99% of agencies or counties looking to build out these systems don't first retain the services of consultants that specialize in RF?

I’m sure their consultants designed a notional system using their experience and software, but will the vendor want to take responsibility for system performance based on a third party consultant’s design? This may be part of the reason why a second round of bidding became necessary.

 

[Jl942264]

I’m sure their consultants designed a notional system using their experience and software, but will the vendor want to take responsibility for system performance based on a third party consultant’s design? This may be part of the reason why a second round of bidding became necessary.

I know a consulting agency was brought in, I believe it was VComm, and ASD. Anyways I'd gather that a decision has been made or they're at least in serious talks with a vendor... time will tell!

 

[HM1529]

For those who have not dug into the licenses and read the slow growth letter, here are the proposed benchmarks:

On or before April 17, 2022 Award and execute the contract with the successful vendor, and initiate kickoff meeting to start Customer Design Review (CDR)

On or before February 17, 2023 Purchase and begin installing base stations countywide. Perform Field Acceptance Test Plan (FATP) and Coverage Acceptance Test Plan (CATP)

On or before December 15, 2023 Purchase, deliver, and install mobiles. Program portables

On or before February 16, 2024 Review and approve punch list items and sign off on the Final System Acceptance (FSA)

https://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsEntry/attachments/attachmentViewRD.jsp?applType=search&fileKey=1767834446&attachmentKey=21422101&attachmentInd=applAttach

 

[maus92]

For those who have not dug into the licenses and read the slow growth letter, here are the proposed benchmarks:

On or before April 17, 2022 Award and execute the contract with the successful vendor, and initiate kickoff meeting to start Customer Design Review (CDR)

On or before February 17, 2023 Purchase and begin installing base stations countywide. Perform Field Acceptance Test Plan (FATP) and Coverage Acceptance Test Plan (CATP)

On or before December 15, 2023 Purchase, deliver, and install mobiles. Program portables

On or before February 16, 2024 Review and approve punch list items and sign off on the Final System Acceptance (FSA)

https://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsEntry/attachments/attachmentViewRD.jsp?applType=search&fileKey=1767834446&attachmentKey=21422101&attachmentInd=applAttach

Ambitious timeline.

 

[Jl942264]

Ambitious timeline.

You said it not me……