DSDPlus FL 2.506 released

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Earlier went to DeSoto County and ran dsdplus on the laptop and only 1 RID showed up for the OTA just disp only and no others came in. I did pick up sarasota county p25 and got a few ota some didn't fill in. I did pick up charlotte county p25 and didn't see no ota I didn't run it long enough to see if there was any. Polk County doesn't do ota. I didn't stop in Hardee County to see if they do ota the dsdplus at home on desktop does see hardee SO and FD seems nothing on them. I do know the system is putting up new radios on the system.
 

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So, I'm noticing there are some radios (on the same system) that do not have OTA aliases being decoded. Some of the radios are actually meant to be on Viper (the statewide system) and I understand them, but others I would think they should have the OTA aliases. Does anyone know why some radios do not transmit them and others from same department/system don't?
 

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So, I'm noticing there are some radios (on the same system) that do not have OTA aliases being decoded. Some of the radios are actually meant to be on Viper (the statewide system) and I understand them, but others I would think they should have the OTA aliases. Does anyone know why some radios do not transmit them and others from same department/system don't?

I vaguely remember somebody saying that there were two systems tied together in some fashion and the one side has OTA and the other didn't. Pretty sure it is this case, where VIPER has aliases on the system you are monitoring, but the native users of the system do not.
 

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I vaguely remember somebody saying that there were two systems tied together in some fashion and the one side has OTA and the other didn't. Pretty sure it is this case, where VIPER has aliases on the system you are monitoring, but the native users of the system do not.

Actually, VIPER does not, the Cary Wake system does, but what I'm seeing is some Raleigh PD units decode some don't. likewise with fire and sheriff.
 

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Important point here that I failed to mention previously: OTA aliases do not work across an ISSI connection with ASTRO 25 systems. Only subscribers that are on their home system will be accompanied by the alias from Provisioning Manager.

Different brands of radios.
Not enabled in some code plugs if that is possible.
Perhaps radios not having more current firmware where the feature is available.
The subscriber codeplugs have absolutely nothing to do with these OTA aliases. They come straight out of the system if they are enabled, regardless of what brand of radio the subscribers have, whether or not the APX subscribers have Group Services, etc.
 

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Today I went to Orlando and ran some dsdplus and I was looking for new Systems. I ran Osceola P25 & Orange cnty p25 and no OTA came across. While I was there I did pick up a new system isn't listed on RRDB (I just submitted the new system) I was getting a Tier 3 and got the lsn/lcn after that notice RID was getting some OTA and just said Motorola. I don't think the system has gone to the server since there wasn't no system on RRDB? I did have laptop on using phone data/wifi. Before I went to Orlando I went by Polk/Hillsborough line and didn't see no OTA come across. Next month I'll test out some other counties I know 1 system is very new.
 

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The subscriber codeplugs have absolutely nothing to do with these OTA aliases. They come straight out of the system if they are enabled, regardless of what brand of radio the subscribers have, whether or not the APX subscribers have Group Services, etc.
If radio brand or subscriber programming have nothing to do with OTA data being transmitted, how is it that a system can have some agencies showing aliases and some not? I know the aliases are programmed because the radio techs are reading them off to the system maintainers on a TG used for that purpose.
 

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Today I went to Orlando and ran some dsdplus and I was looking for new Systems. I ran Osceola P25 & Orange cnty p25 and no OTA came across. While I was there I did pick up a new system isn't listed on RRDB (I just submitted the new system) I was getting a Tier 3 and got the lsn/lcn after that notice RID was getting some OTA and just said Motorola. I don't think the system has gone to the server since there wasn't no system on RRDB? I did have laptop on using phone data/wifi. Before I went to Orlando I went by Polk/Hillsborough line and didn't see no OTA come across. Next month I'll test out some other counties I know 1 system is very new.
I'll save you some travel time. Orange, Osceola, Seminole, and Flagler counties don't have OTA Aliases. This is after a day or two of monitoring each system. And they are very busy systems.

DMR Tier 3, NXDN, and Harris P25 already have OTA Support. DMR T3 & NXDN have had this capability for a long time. Harris P25 was implemented a few months ago. Now, DSD+ has Motorola P25 OTA support as of version 2.505. Motoraloa P25 OTA decoding differs from the others, so you will only see Motorola P25 Systems in the aliasstats.txt file, nothing else.
 
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how is it that a system can have some agencies showing aliases and some not?
Simply because they are not enabled and/or set up in the provisioning manager. KIS.

With CLMRN having the state standard method for all RIDs (and TGs) statewide for the entire system, it's very easy to figure out what agency and who the radio belongs to by just looking at the numerical RID. So yes, the OTAs are helpful for names, badge numbers, and license plates, but it's not 100% new information (if you know what I mean). You can figure out who is talking by looking at the numerical RID.
 

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Important point here that I failed to mention previously: OTA aliases do not work across an ISSI connection with ASTRO 25 systems. Only subscribers that are on their home system will be accompanied by the alias from Provisioning Manager.


The subscriber codeplugs have absolutely nothing to do with these OTA aliases. They come straight out of the system if they are enabled, regardless of what brand of radio the subscribers have, whether or not the APX subscribers have Group Services, etc.

Group services can allow a radio to transmit its own internally programmed alias, regardless to what the system has it set for in its provisioning manager. We had a programmer that got cute and changed his in his radio, and it transmitted it to other radios and updated their internal UCLs with his cutsie alias.
 

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Is there a server query limit? Both subsystems that I have been sitting on for over 2 days have not received any new responses after 720. Still making lots of queries.

EDIT: Got the number wrong. Total responses for both cells (part of same overall system) is 839 and holding.
 
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If radio brand or subscriber programming have nothing to do with OTA data being transmitted, how is it that a system can have some agencies showing aliases and some not? I know the aliases are programmed because the radio techs are reading them off to the system maintainers on a TG used for that purpose.
See my post here: New Jersey Interoperability Communication System (NJICS)
 

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I'll save you some travel time. Orange, Osceola, Seminole, and Flagler counties don't have OTA Aliases. This is after a day or two of monitoring each system. And they are very busy systems.

DMR Tier 3, NXDN, and Harris P25 already have OTA Support. DMR T3 & NXDN have had this capability for a long time. Harris P25 was implemented a few months ago. Now, DSD+ has Motorola P25 OTA support as of version 2.505. Motoraloa P25 OTA decoding differs from the others, so you will only see Motorola P25 Systems in the aliasstats.txt file, nothing else.
I was going to stop by Flagler to check. Do you know if Volusia sends out OTA?
 

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Is there a server query limit? Both subsystems that I have been sitting on for over 2 days have not received any new responses after 720. Still making lots of queries.

EDIT: Got the number wrong. Total responses for both cells (part of same overall system) is 839 and holding.

Have you stopped DSD+ during that time? I found sometimes if I stop DSD+, wait a few minutes and restart it then I get the decodes
 

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I notice in the notes there was a DSD 2.505 however I din not get that update only 5.506.

I forget the way the updates work, are previous updates embedded in the latest so not worries if I missed 2.505?
 
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