DUAL-BAND MURS Radios??? Would you buy one?

[KN6SD]

Would you spend your hard earned dollars on a dual-band MURS Radio??? What if the new radio had 15 channels instead of 5?

Here's my idea for an expanded MURS service that everyone could enjoy..

U.S. 49 MHz VHF-Lo MURS Band Plan
TX/RX Mode of Operation FM (4 Watts rms)
Channel / Frequency / Bandwidth

1. 49.6750 (20.00 kHz) Interstate Highway Channel – Long Range
   
   
2. 49.6950 (20.00 kHz)
   
   
3. 49.7750 (20.00 kHz)

1. 49.7950 (20.00 kHz)

1. 49.8650 (20.00 kHz)

1. 49.8350 (20.00 kHz)

1. 49.8950 (20.00 kHz)

1. 49.9150 (20.00 kHz)

1. 49.9350 (20.00 kHz) Emergency / Travel Assistance ONLY

1. 49.9550 (20.00 kHz)

Channel 09 is reserved for Emergency Communications and Travel Assistance.




U.S. 150 MHz VHF-Hi MURS Band Plan
TX/RX Mode of Operation FM (2 Watts rms)

Channel / Frequency / Bandwidth

1. 151.820 MHz (11.25 kHz)

1. 151.880 MHz (11.25 kHz)

1. 151.940 MHz (11.25 kHz)

1. 154.570 MHz (20.00 kHz)

1. 154.600 MHz (20.00 kHz) Interstate Highway Channel – Short Range

Would you spend your hard earned dollars on a dual-band MURS Radio??? What if the new radio had 15 channels instead of 5?

Here's my idea for an expanded MURS service that everyone could enjoy..

U.S. 49 MHz VHF-Lo MURS Band Plan
TX/RX Mode of Operation FM (4 Watts rms)
Channel / Frequency / Bandwidth

1. 49.6750 (20.00 kHz) Interstate Highway Channel – Long Range
   
   
2. 49.6950 (20.00 kHz)
   
   
3. 49.7750 (20.00 kHz)

1. 49.7950 (20.00 kHz)

1. 49.8650 (20.00 kHz)

1. 49.8350 (20.00 kHz)

1. 49.8950 (20.00 kHz)

1. 49.9150 (20.00 kHz)

1. 49.9350 (20.00 kHz) Emergency / Travel Assistance ONLY

1. 49.9550 (20.00 kHz)

Channel 09 is reserved for Emergency Communications and Travel Assistance.




U.S. 150 MHz VHF-Hi MURS Band Plan
TX/RX Mode of Operation FM (2 Watts rms)

Channel / Frequency / Bandwidth

1. 151.820 MHz (11.25 kHz)

1. 151.880 MHz (11.25 kHz)

1. 151.940 MHz (11.25 kHz)

1. 154.570 MHz (20.00 kHz)

1. 154.600 MHz (20.00 kHz) Interstate Highway Channel – Short Range

I don't know why, but the numbering always gets goofed up

 

[nd5y]

The FCC rules would have to be changed before a radio like that could get certification.
Under present rules any MURS or FRS radio that is capable of transmitting on frequencies in other services is not allowed.

 

[KN6SD]

The FCC rules would have to be changed before a radio like that could get certification.
Under present rules any MURS or FRS radio that is capable of transmitting on frequencies in other services is not allowed.

I know that the rules would need to be modified...

My question is, would such a dual-band radio interest you?

 

[ko6jw_2]

No.

 

[RFI-EMI-GUY]

Low band portable radios in any incarnation are going to be useless for any purpose because of the awful antenna characteristics. Low band is for mobile radios using base loaded ~40 inch NMO Larsen antennas or 1/4 whips.

 

[KN6SD]

Low band portable radios in any incarnation are going to be useless for any purpose because of the awful antenna characteristics. Low band is for mobile radios using base loaded ~40 inch NMO Larsen antennas or 1/4 whips.

I hear your complaint, HT's would suck on 49 MHz no doubt.. BUT, They'd work pretty good on the VHF Hi Band..

Would you spend your hard earned dollars on a dual-band MURS Radio??? What if the new radio had 15 channels instead of 5?

Here's my idea for an expanded MURS service that everyone could enjoy..

U.S. 49 MHz VHF-Lo MURS Band Plan
TX/RX Mode of Operation FM (4 Watts rms)
Channel / Frequency / Bandwidth

1. 49.6750 (20.00 kHz) Interstate Highway Channel – Long Range
   
   
2. 49.6950 (20.00 kHz)
   
   
3. 49.7750 (20.00 kHz)

1. 49.7950 (20.00 kHz)

1. 49.8650 (20.00 kHz)

1. 49.8350 (20.00 kHz)

1. 49.8950 (20.00 kHz)

1. 49.9150 (20.00 kHz)

1. 49.9350 (20.00 kHz) Emergency / Travel Assistance ONLY

1. 49.9550 (20.00 kHz)

Channel 09 is reserved for Emergency Communications and Travel Assistance.




U.S. 150 MHz VHF-Hi MURS Band Plan
TX/RX Mode of Operation FM (2 Watts rms)

Channel / Frequency / Bandwidth

1. 151.820 MHz (11.25 kHz)

1. 151.880 MHz (11.25 kHz)

1. 151.940 MHz (11.25 kHz)

1. 154.570 MHz (20.00 kHz)

1. 154.600 MHz (20.00 kHz) Interstate Highway Channel – Short Range

Here's my latest revision to the Dual-Band MURS Band Plan.. Any ideas about radio features???

U.S. 49 MHz VHF-Lo MURS Band Plan
TX/RX Mode of Operation FM (4 Watts rms)

Channel / Frequency / Bandwidth / Recommended Use
1A. 49.6750 (20.00 kHz) Interstate Highway Channel – Long Range
2A. 49.6950 (20.00 kHz) Off Road Vehicle (4WD) channel --- Long Range
3A. 49.7150 (20.00 kHz) Long Range Talk Around Channel
4A. 49.7350 (20.00 kHz) Long Range Talk Around Channel
5A. 49.7550 (20.00 kHz) Long Range Talk Around Channel
6A. 49.7750 (20.00 kHz) Long Range Talk Around Channel
7A. 49.7950 (20.00 kHz) Long Range Talk Around Channel
8A. 49.8150 (20.00 kHz) Long Range Talk Around Channel
9A. 49.8400 (20.00 kHz) Emergency / Travel Assistance ONLY
10A. 49.8650 (20.00 kHz) Long Range Talk Around Channel
11A. 49.8950 (20.00 kHz) Long Range Talk Around Channel
12A. 49.9150 (20.00 kHz) Long Range Talk Around Channel
13A. 49.9350 (20.00 kHz) Long Range Talk Around Channel
14A. 49.9550 (20.00 kHz) Long Range Talk Around Channel
15A. 49.9750 (20.00 kHz) Long Range Talk Around Channel


U.S. 150 MHz VHF-Hi MURS Band Plan
TX/RX Mode of Operation FM (2 Watts rms)

Channel / Frequency / Bandwidth / Recommended Use
1B. 151.820 MHz (11.25 kHz) Short Range Talk Around Channel
2B. 151.880 MHz (11.25 kHz) Short Range Talk Around Channel
3B. 151.940 MHz (11.25 kHz) Truck / Cargo Terminals --- Calling Channel
4B. 154.570 MHz (20.00 kHz) Off Road Vehicle (4WD) channel --- Short Range
5B. 154.600 MHz (20.00 kHz) Interstate Highway Channel – Short Range

 

[a417]

you love floating these solutions to problems that you think exist, don't you?

 

[KN6SD]

I'll bet the Truck Stops couldn't keep the Dual-Band MURS radios on the shelves...… That's if the price was comparable to 27 MHz equipment...

you love floating these solutions to problems that you think exist, don't you?

I don't see a problem, I see an opportunity to offer a better product to the consumer...

 

[a417]

Hoooo boy. If you are fancying up these "NEW MURS" and "NEW 39 MHZ" band plans, and imagining up fanciful multiband equipment you surely see a problem with what we already have....get it?

 

[KN6SD]

Hoooo boy. If you are fancying up these "NEW MURS" and "NEW 39 MHZ" band plans, and imagining up fanciful multiband equipment you surely see a problem with what we already have....get it?

Not really, wanting to experience something new can be pretty cool...… It doesn't have to solve anything, except one's desire to play with new toys

 

[alcahuete]

A solution in search of a problem. What's wrong with the current MURS band? It's dead. So now you want to take a dead band and spread the lack of users across an entirely new band (49 MHz) which is also dead and has been for decades? Remember the old Radio Shack 49 MHz HTs? I still own a pair. The range is horrible. Truckers will go for them? Truckers have already begun switching to GMRS long ago.

Good luck with this!

 

[RFI-EMI-GUY]

I will be honest. If I had time and money to burn getting a manufacturer to produce a new certified Part 95 radio it would be a fully compliant wideband 16K0F3E 50 watt GMRS radio with decent TX and RX specs. It would be like the Midland MXT400 except it would be much higher tranceiver specs and quality like a decent Motorola commercial radio. It would also have a hand held control head option. It would have no silliness like VHF receive or NOAA WX. It would have user selectable CTCSS/DCS tables for each simplex and repeater channel. Likewise I would produce a 5 watt handheld radio with similar features and replaceble lithium ion battery. The mobile would also have a connector on the rear to interface signals for duplex or simplex repeater operation and an optional PA fan for continuous duty.

 

[PCTEK]

OP: Just a thought... Rather than trying to find a use for the old baby monitor frequencies, why not try and keep the FCC and ARRL from turning our hobby into another CB fiasco by having them preserve our bands as well as the various tests (which we all know needs updating) it takes to legally operate within those bands. You are after all a HAM operator.

 

[KN6SD]

A solution in search of a problem. What's wrong with the current MURS band? It's dead. So now you want to take a dead band and spread the lack of users across an entirely new band (49 MHz) which is also dead and has been for decades? Remember the old Radio Shack 49 MHz HTs? I still own a pair. The range is horrible. Truckers will go for them? Truckers have already begun switching to GMRS long ago.

Good luck with this!

MURS is pretty dead because there's not much in equipment availability... But, some people are making it work with HT's and external antennas...

OP: Just a thought... Rather than trying to find a use for the old baby monitor frequencies, why not try and keep the FCC and ARRL from turning our hobby into another CB fiasco by having them preserve our bands as well as the various tests (which we all know needs updating) it takes to legally operate within those bands. You are after all a HAM operator.

Yes, I'm a Ham.. That's why I've been thinking about a new modern two-way service for the public. After all, we (Hams) don't need casual users on our bands, we want radio people

 

[nd5y]

What's wrong with the current MURS band? It's dead.

It's not dead if you live near Walmart, Sam's, or somebody with Dakota Alert gate/driveway alarms.

 

[KN6SD]

I will be honest. If I had time and money to burn getting a manufacturer to produce a new certified Part 95 radio it would be a fully compliant wideband 16K0F3E 50 watt GMRS radio with decent TX and RX specs. It would be like the Midland MXT400 except it would be much higher tranceiver specs and quality like a decent Motorola commercial radio. It would also have a hand held control head option. It would have no silliness like VHF receive or NOAA WX. It would have user selectable CTCSS/DCS tables for each simplex and repeater channel. Likewise I would produce a 5 watt handheld radio with similar features and replaceble lithium ion battery. The mobile would also have a connector on the rear to interface signals for duplex or simplex repeater operation and an optional PA fan for continuous duty.

I agree, the lack of quality equipment for GMRS is disappointing.. The Midland stuff sucks...

 

[bill4long]

MURS isn't dead around here. Not at all.

 

[iMONITOR]

MURS is pretty dead because there's not much in equipment availability... But, some people are making it work with HT's and external antennas...

You wouldn't be able to change the antenna for MURS because a FRS radio can not accept a modified antenna.

 

[bill4long]

49.6750 (20.00 kHz) Interstate Highway Channel – Long Range

Etc. etc.

What problem does this solve? GMRS already exists and can do 50 watts legally. And tons of radios already exist that can do it, esp if you use Part 90 radios (which lots of people do.) License required, so what.

What would really interest me and lots of others is if the FCC get get off their dead azz and allow Part 90 certified radios to be legally used on GMRS. Tons of users, if not most users, already use them illegally without any apparent negative impact. And they should allow digital (DMR, P25, etc) as well. It's a silly state of affairs.

 

[a417]

It's not dead if you live near Walmart, Sam's, or somebody with Dakota Alert gate/driveway alarms.

Or are near any of the flagging contractors that control traffic construction zones.