Okay. I did put that tg down and put it in my spreadsheet. I may ride up to a higher place and see if I can get on Haines City site and see what pops up on that one. Ft Meade is hit/miss at my place even I'm not too far from that site.
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I am about 50% confident that 62786 is "Winter Garden Ops" not ready to commit yet though. Want to see more alias'ed activity to confirm.
Again, especially with the voice being encrypted, please be sure you are seeing a pattern over a period of time. If you see an alias once or twice among others it may be someone visiting, don't rush to submit the information, and remember to submit the portion of the DSDPlus.radios file that supports your thoughts about who is using the talkgroup.
It's likely a DCC dispatch radio or something like that, and there probably aren't a whole lot of them active outside of severe wx conditions. If it's like AEP, who has a central dispatch for DCC / trouble out of Fort Wayne IN that is usually dispatching for all of the OH/MI stuff outside of business hours. Trouble calls (downed lines) reported during business hours are usually handled by a dispatcher in the local AEP office. Outside of business hours, the units are contacting Fort Wayne (but on the local area-specific talkgroup for trouble calls).
I imagine something similar is done over at Duke. And if so, it shouldn't be surprising to see FL-DCC radios on all sorts of different talkgroups over time. I'd guess that would not be a good identifier of talkgroup locations.
Then again, what the hell do I know. I don't have a Duke site local to me. They are on the other side of the state.
I see the same Alias of FL-DCC-0 with TWO DIFFERENT radio ID numbers, which is leading me to believe it is a generic name possibly.
Or handheld/mobile supervisor
lwvmobile
DSD-FME
I was wondering who JAMS was, caught them earlier today at the Duke Energy "Quail Trail", sounds like a place to go hunting at
Was probably just passing through if they are from Jamestown.
Code:
15:20:47 P25p2 LCH 1 MAC_ACTIVE
MFID A4 (Harris); VCH 1; TG: 64808; SRC: 16421378; Talker Alias: JAMS-27683-TRK
15:20:49 P25p2 SACCH MAC_ACTIVE
MFID A4 (Harris); Len: 17; Opcode: 80/AA;
GPS: 30.549200°, -83.856651°; LTS: 20:20:47 UTC;
Also, on a separate note, if you see aliases like 'FL-DCC-1' and similar, those are probably going to be on all sites with various working uinit ids, so they probably shouldn't be used to determine SG/TG locations/identities, as mentioned before, they are probably a central dispatch for a wider chunk of Florida. The best bet by far is the 4 letter abbreviations for locations. Also, just as in my example here, I caught JAMS here in Monticello, but that's pretty far from their actual location, so probably not on his home TG/locality, so repeated hits may be required to say for sure that an alias belongs on that TG/SG.
I've also captured a few GPS hits on 'PLIN-XXXX-YYY' in Perry, FL, but I'm not confident enough to say that is Perry or just passing through, but can't come up with what PLIN might stand for exactly, could just be 'Power Line' or similar, although I was trying to stretch it to being 'Perry, Lamont, INterstate" but that might be too much of a stretch.
Just taking a guess on zones in for FL. Example on a TG 62790 the 2nd number (2) possible zone 2? 64808 zone 4?
Latest update to the DB listing added TG 62790, again. It's listed twice under two different descriptions. Which is it?
Great reason to verify who is on the TGs, remember DCC may use any or all TGs as they will need to talk to different units, but you should see mostly regular units. Meanwhile, if a TG is exclusive to the DCC there should be a minimum of other units
I'm sure the DB admins will straighten it out based on what is in the original submissions.
lwvmobile
DSD-FME
I honestly don't think they are using 'zone' numbering, but just basing it on the old smartzone system in the database, IF the zone values are legit, then it would actually be opposite. 64808 is in the old 'zone 2' and 62870 being 'zone 4' by my own little bit of observation.
Just another observation, but all supergroup values seem to be of the value 64xxx and comprise of TG values of 62XXX or 60XXX. At least, that is my observation on Site 26 and Site 27. I could have sworn some much earlier samples had Supergroups comprised of low number TG values, but can't seem to find those now. These are from more current dumps of my monitoring.
Code:
11:27:38 P25p2 LCCH MAC_SIGNAL
MFID A4 (Harris) Group Regroup Explicit Encryption Command
Patch Active; SSN: 01; SG: 64201; KEY: 0001; ALG: 84;
WGID: 62208; WGID: 62464; WGID: 62976; WGID: 62720;
11:27:38 P25p2 LCCH MAC_SIGNAL
MFID A4 (Harris) Group Regroup Explicit Encryption Command
Patch Active; SSN: 08; SG: 64808; KEY: 0001; ALG: 84;
WGID: 62773; WGID: 62774;
11:27:38 P25p2 LCCH MAC_SIGNAL
MFID A4 (Harris) Group Regroup Explicit Encryption Command
Patch Active; SSN: 09; SG: 64809; KEY: 0001; ALG: 84;
WGID: 62775; WGID: 62776;
23:59:29 P25p2 LCCH MAC_SIGNAL
MFID A4 (Harris) Group Regroup Explicit Encryption Command
Simulselect Active; SSN: 11; SG: 64611; KEY: 0001; ALG: 84;
WGID: 60083; WGID: 60082; WGID: 60081;
23:59:29 P25p2 LCCH MAC_SIGNAL
MFID A4 (Harris) Group Regroup Explicit Encryption Command
Simulselect Active; SSN: 13; SG: 64613; KEY: 0001; ALG: 84;
WGID: 60097; WGID: 60098;FYI -- I don't know if anyone mentioned this, but if you see mentions of NFE that would be Nuclear Fuels Engineering department
But then again maybe not. The references to MFE / MFW / NFE / NFW in the Duke Florida deprecated system suggest areas like E/W. No idea what MF / NF would indicate.
Mike
But then again maybe not. The references to MFE / MFW / NFE / NFW in the Duke Florida deprecated system suggest areas like E/W. No idea what MF / NF would indicate.
Mike
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Was able to confirm site 201.50.50 (Princeton IN) online today using your map, info submitted to DB!
Also confirmed site 201.49.49 info still accurate.
Great job! Thank you.
Happy New Year to all of you Duke junkies!
Likewise Mike!Happy New Year to all of you Duke junkies!
Today I'll be sitting on FL site 15 Ft Meade and see any new tg pop up when this storm system rolls in a bit
lwvmobile
DSD-FME
Here in N.FL, getting TG 62774 today, which is one of the two talkgroups usually affiliated with the supergroup patch 64808. Also, it seems the control channel is not advertising 64808 as a supergroup at the moment.
Usually, I get this:
Not so, today, but I am getting 62774 instead:
I also have an alias for ODEN (Odena), which when looking at the old Smartzone system, is Odena in NF Coastal Zone 1, along with Port St. Joe, Carabelle, and Crawford, for what its worth.
Usually, I get this:
Code:
07:57:38 P25p2 LCCH MAC_SIGNAL
MFID A4 (Harris) Group Regroup Explicit Encryption Command
Patch Active; SSN: 08; SG: 64808; KEY: 0001; ALG: 84;
WGID: 62773; WGID: 62774; <--TG members of the 64808 Super Group in two-way patchNot so, today, but I am getting 62774 instead:
I also have an alias for ODEN (Odena), which when looking at the old Smartzone system, is Odena in NF Coastal Zone 1, along with Port St. Joe, Carabelle, and Crawford, for what its worth.
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lwvmobile
DSD-FME
A small update on that, I caught the other individual TG from supergroup 64808, 62773, which seems to be Trenton, so it almost looks like 62774 is more of the western portion of SG: 64808 (Madison, Monticello) and 62773 is more on the eastern side with Trenton. I couldn't find any other aliases associated with TG 62773.
I kind of wonder if the supergroup patch is just down for today due to the storm and that its too busy to patch them together (for the sanity of the line crew, dispatchers, etc.) or if its down for good. I am assuming that when it calms down, the patch will probably go back up.
I also picked up CRAW as well on 62774 to go along with ODEN.
Code:
17:54:35 P25p2 LCH 1 MAC_ACTIVE
VCH 1 - TG: 62773; SRC: 16422298; Encrypted Group Voice - Abbreviated
17:54:35 Sync: +P25p2 SISCH WACN [91F14] SYS [2D7] NAC [01A]
17:54:35 P25p2 LCCH MAC_SIGNAL
MFID A4 (Harris); Res: 0; Len: 7; Opcode: 0F; 0A44800A
17:54:35 P25p2 LCH 1 MAC_ACTIVE
MFID A4 (Harris); VCH 1; TG: 62773; SRC: 16422298; Talker Alias: TREN-34343-SBKI kind of wonder if the supergroup patch is just down for today due to the storm and that its too busy to patch them together (for the sanity of the line crew, dispatchers, etc.) or if its down for good. I am assuming that when it calms down, the patch will probably go back up.
I also picked up CRAW as well on 62774 to go along with ODEN.
Code:
18:04:04 P25p2 LCH 1 MAC_ACTIVE
VCH 1 - TG: 62774; SRC: 16422039; Encrypted Group Voice - Abbreviated
18:04:04 Sync: +P25p2 SISCH WACN [91F14] SYS [2D7] NAC [01A]
18:04:04 P25p2 SACCH MAC_ACTIVE
MFID A4 (Harris); VCH 1; TG: 62774; SRC: 16422039; Talker Alias: CRAW-34345-SBT
