Police Radio to go Silent as Antioch Cops Move Toward Encrypted Communications
This week, the Antioch Police Department will launch its new communication system which will cause the average police scanner used by the public and news media to go silent.
Police Radio to go Silent as Antioch Cops Move Toward Encrypted Communications | East County Today
This week, the Antioch Police Department will launch its new communication system which will cause the average police scanner used by the public and news media to go silent.
Police Radio to go Silent as Antioch Cops Move Toward Encrypted Communications | East County Today
Eng74
Member
I wonder since APD is a customer they can say what they want done to the system in their area. The same thing has happened down south on the ICIS System. Pasadena PD came on board and went the big E. It is a shame that this stuff is only found out by the public after the decision has been made with no input from the local residents.
mkewman
Member
Can anyone confirm that they have gone encrypted yet?
Yes they have.
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kma371 is correct, the complete policy statement from the EBRCSA web site, states:
A. POLICY STATEMENT
The EBRCSA system allows encryption of voice traffic. There are two options available to provide
encryption. Motorola Solutions offers an option called Advanced Digital Privacy (ADP) which is a
proprietary form of encryption that only works on Motorola subscriber unit. The Advanced Encryption
Standard (AES) is the nationally accepted standard for encryption and is available for use on all vendor
subscriber units.
The EBRCSA adopted the following policy:
1. Establish three (3) system wide Talk Groups to be used for encryption;
2. Establish that system users standardize on Advanced Encryption Standard (AES) if encryption is used;
3. Encryption should be an agency by agency decision;
4. Encryption should be confined to special operations and not used on primary dispatch talkgroups.
The document can be found on their site (I'm using a shortened URL) http://goo.gl/VQnHxF
As usual, when there is an "authority" involved, aka GOVERNMENT, then you will find that their policy items typically conflict within the same policy or with other policies. You will also notice the overabundant use of the one or more of the 4 deadliest words known in the English language. In this case it is the word SHOULD.
The 4 deadliest words are:
SHOULD
COULD
WOULD, and...
IF
Translation: should does not equal SHALL, therefore, the policy has no authority over any agency for items 3 & 4. SHOULD is simply a loose way to ensure that the "authority" is not the one "laying down the law" on how the EBRCS is used so that they cannot be held liable for something later on.
Yes, they do think about these things, a lot, and, with a lot of lawyers to protect their butts.
A. POLICY STATEMENT
The EBRCSA system allows encryption of voice traffic. There are two options available to provide
encryption. Motorola Solutions offers an option called Advanced Digital Privacy (ADP) which is a
proprietary form of encryption that only works on Motorola subscriber unit. The Advanced Encryption
Standard (AES) is the nationally accepted standard for encryption and is available for use on all vendor
subscriber units.
The EBRCSA adopted the following policy:
1. Establish three (3) system wide Talk Groups to be used for encryption;
2. Establish that system users standardize on Advanced Encryption Standard (AES) if encryption is used;
3. Encryption should be an agency by agency decision;
4. Encryption should be confined to special operations and not used on primary dispatch talkgroups.
The document can be found on their site (I'm using a shortened URL) http://goo.gl/VQnHxF
As usual, when there is an "authority" involved, aka GOVERNMENT, then you will find that their policy items typically conflict within the same policy or with other policies. You will also notice the overabundant use of the one or more of the 4 deadliest words known in the English language. In this case it is the word SHOULD.
The 4 deadliest words are:
SHOULD
COULD
WOULD, and...
IF
Translation: should does not equal SHALL, therefore, the policy has no authority over any agency for items 3 & 4. SHOULD is simply a loose way to ensure that the "authority" is not the one "laying down the law" on how the EBRCS is used so that they cannot be held liable for something later on.
Yes, they do think about these things, a lot, and, with a lot of lawyers to protect their butts.
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Testing on Hayward Fire TG 2255 just now on ALCO SW.
Scenario testing now on Hayward FD Tac 33 TG2693. Should be only a matter of days until they go live on EBRCS.
looks like the radio techs are setting up Oakland on the microwave towers EBRCS Call 1001 (group) monitoring the South Site
Oakland/Piedmont
OPD Patrol 1-3 is active. Doing radio check's. Unit's are checking in and logging on. Might switch over very soon within a day or sooner.
Piedmont PD and Fire are already active and working for a month now.
OPD Patrol 1-3 is active. Doing radio check's. Unit's are checking in and logging on. Might switch over very soon within a day or sooner.
Piedmont PD and Fire are already active and working for a month now.
stingray327
Member
Will this show up on the weekly updates on here to update our Uniden scanners?
It sounds like the switch over might happen very soon. I've heard OPD unit's talking to dispatch on all three Patrol channels giving their radio id's and their last name's all day long and into the night for the last three day's.
I'm not 100% sure, but it sounds like they are getting the new radio's ready to go in service on the EBRCS
Anyone else have any more info?
I'm not 100% sure, but it sounds like they are getting the new radio's ready to go in service on the EBRCS
Anyone else have any more info?
stingray327
Member
I have OPD programmed in from info form this website. So then I should be getting them soon?
The DB has not yet been updated, but I've submitted the following talkgroups:
3405 - OPD 1
3406 - OPD 2
3407 - OPD 3
2405 - OAK FD 1
2406 - OAK FD 2
2407 - OAK FD 3
2408 - OAK FD 4
2409 - OAK FD 5
2410 - OAK FD 6
2411 - OAK FD 7
2412 - OAK FD 8
2413 - OAK FD 9
2414 - OAK FD 10
2415 - OAK FD 11
2416 - OAK FD 12
2417 - OAK FD 13
Oakland Fire was doing coverage testing yesterday. I also noticed the following talkgroups active:
3409 - OPD?
3411 - OPD?
3428 - OPD?
3447 - OPD?
3448 - OPD?
2433 - OAK FD?
2435 - OAK FD?
3405 - OPD 1
3406 - OPD 2
3407 - OPD 3
2405 - OAK FD 1
2406 - OAK FD 2
2407 - OAK FD 3
2408 - OAK FD 4
2409 - OAK FD 5
2410 - OAK FD 6
2411 - OAK FD 7
2412 - OAK FD 8
2413 - OAK FD 9
2414 - OAK FD 10
2415 - OAK FD 11
2416 - OAK FD 12
2417 - OAK FD 13
Oakland Fire was doing coverage testing yesterday. I also noticed the following talkgroups active:
3409 - OPD?
3411 - OPD?
3428 - OPD?
3447 - OPD?
3448 - OPD?
2433 - OAK FD?
2435 - OAK FD?
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