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2025: The NY State Senate intoduces a new "Keep Police Radio Public Act" legislation, which will force the NYPD to discontinue their 100% Encryption scheme, and bring back transparency.

 
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2025: The NY State Senate intoduces a new "Keep Police Radio Public Act" legislation, which will force the NYPD to discontinue their 100% Encryption scheme, and bring back transparency.

“In the event that a law enforcement agency does encrypt radio communications pursuant to this subdivision, the department of state shall, for the purpose of verifying credentials, establish and administer a process for granting real-time access to radio communications to emergency services organizations and to professional journalists.”

This doesn’t reverse anything, and only reinforces the stance those whom are authorized will have access. Not sure where you get that from. Only TD will switch and go unencrypted to my knowledge but that’s about it. ALSO, State department or whatever they wanna call themselves don’t control the radio shop, nor have authority to simply do it on their terms. Nothing wrong with their approach, and quite frankly we should be thankful this hasn’t occurred sooner as anticipated 💯
 

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That is the NY Assembly, not the Senate. The sponsor is a member of the majority party, which is interesting. However, the bill has been referred to the Commerce Committee, where radio related legislation has always gone to die.
 

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“In the event that a law enforcement agency does encrypt radio communications pursuant to this subdivision, the department of state shall, for the purpose of verifying credentials, establish and administer a process for granting real-time access to radio communications to emergency services organizations and to professional journalists.”

This doesn’t reverse anything, and only reinforces the stance those whom are authorized will have access. Not sure where you get that from. Only TD will switch and go unencrypted to my knowledge but that’s about it. ALSO, State department or whatever they wanna call themselves don’t control the radio shop, nor have authority to simply do it on their terms. Nothing wrong with their approach, and quite frankly we should be thankful this hasn’t occurred sooner as anticipated 💯
The Department of State has the authority to license, register, and credential entities wishing to do business in NY State. In line with any enabling legislation, the Department enforces requirements imposed onto businesses in the state.
 

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Does RR have an automated remind me feature such as #RR remind me in three years how this is going as this grinds through committee. 🤣 Another nothing burger seen.🍔
As this is the second year of the 2-year cycle, it can only be active until June 6, when the current session officially ends, unless an extroardinary session is called later in the year. In any event, it dies on December 31 and would have to be reintroduced into the next full session. However, as I have tracked a number of radio bills over the years, it will probably die in committee as usual.
 

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“In the event that a law enforcement agency does encrypt radio communications pursuant to this subdivision, the department of state shall, for the purpose of verifying credentials, establish and administer a process for granting real-time access to radio communications to emergency services organizations and to professional journalists.”

This doesn’t reverse anything, and only reinforces the stance those whom are authorized will have access. Not sure where you get that from. Only TD will switch and go unencrypted to my knowledge but that’s about it. ALSO, State department or whatever they wanna call themselves don’t control the radio shop, nor have authority to simply do it on their terms. Nothing wrong with their approach, and quite frankly we should be thankful this hasn’t occurred sooner as anticipated 💯
Wrong. This will ensure Clear NYPD Comms for the Press and Media.
 

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The legal fight has just begun. The media and the press will use ALL legal resouces to end the NYPD's Press lock out. fasten your seatbelts. This could take a while, but we have alot of patience......We do not rely on the NY State Bill, that is only one component in this battle.... The media, networks, and press have deep pockets.

 
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This doesn’t reverse anything, and only reinforces the stance those whom are authorized will have access.
Exactly right. "Keep Police Radio Public Act" is a misnomer. Only those deemed "professional journalists" by the gatekeepers will have access. The public will be left out in the cold. It is what it is. There is no putting the toothpaste back in the tube as far as encryption.
 
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Exactly right. "Keep Police Radio Public Act" is a misnomer. Only those deemed "professional journalists" by the gatekeepers will have access. The public will be left out in the cold. It is what it is. There is no putting the toothpaste back in the tube as far as encryption.
Just my opinion: Encryption is here to stay live with it! as far as the press goes even if they were to win some kind of lawsuit they would then be issued radios with decryption keys so they could monitor PD, the public will NEVER be able to listen to NYPD again. For some of us it's a 60 year hobby that's now gone forever, all I can say is move on that's life!
 

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One step at a time. This bill will ensure the press has access to NYPD Comms. If the bill fails, The Power, and legal means of The National Media will prevail. NYC is the Number One News market in the USA.

Next step will be to obtain PUBLIC ACCESS to NYPD Comms with a 30 minute delay for Officer Safety. Its been done in Chicago and Baltimore. It can be done in NYC.

Never give up!!!
 
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Just my opinion: Encryption is here to stay live with it! as far as the press goes even if they were to win some kind of lawsuit they would then be issued radios with decryption keys so they could monitor PD, the public will NEVER be able to listen to NYPD again. For some of us it's a 60 year hobby that's now gone forever, all I can say is move on that's life!
Most likely, or through an app. Agree about public access, and certainly never again direct with a scanner. The best to be hoped for is that they follow Chicago's model one day.

60 years is a long time - over 35 years here. Once the encryption started in the Bronx/SI, I essentially started moving on, focusing on air and other comms. My local dept also went E two years ago
 

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The "Keep Police Radio Public Act" in its FIRST form, included BOTH the press and the public. The NYPD rejected that concept. Now, State lawmakers, NYC city council members, The Press, are all concentrating on giving the Press Access. The Press will keep the public advised of NY City Crime, with the proper transparency.

We will ALWAYS continue to fight for PUBLIC access to NYPD comms, there is NO good reason the Chicago and Baltimore solutions of PUBLIC access with a delay could not work in NYC.

Call and write to your NYC Council members, Senators, Congress Reps, and support Community leaders who are fighting for Access to NYPD Comms, for the safety of the Citizens of NYC.
 

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We will ALWAYS continue to fight for PUBLIC access to NYPD comms, there is NO good reason the Chicago and Baltimore solutions of PUBLIC access with a delay could not work in NYC.
Hope the effort succeeds. Press access is essential for transparency.
 

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Just wondering - why are some precincts (Bk, SI and Bx) encrypted, while others (Qns Mnhtn) aren't?
NYPD will Encrypt 100% of its precincts, as its a work in progress :(
 

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Just wondering - why are some precincts (Bk, SI and Bx) encrypted, while others (Qns Mnhtn) aren't?
I believe the reasons those pcts went "E" earlier was previously discussed in this thread and the other dealing with encryption. As noted above, the conversion to "E" is underway in Manhattan and Queens will go "E" as well.
 
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