Fire wont be on the system for a month or two at least.
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Fire wont be on the system for a month or two at least.
So lets play “discover that TG”.
So far 574, 575 and 568 have shown up as encrypted. No matching TGs from the EDACS system unless I overlooked it so im guessing these are new TGs and hoping they are PD as fire was told they will not have encrypted channels and fire is 5XX series.
So far 574, 575 and 568 have shown up as encrypted. No matching TGs from the EDACS system unless I overlooked it so im guessing these are new TGs and hoping they are PD as fire was told they will not have encrypted channels and fire is 5XX series.
There are few unidentified talkgroups out there. I'm aware of some on the EDACS system that aren't identified either...Sissortail Park Operations is one entity - and they are all encrypted (why?). I wouldn't think they'd be on the P25 yet...rumor is the order is PD, Fire, City Services (parks), Metro Cities.
These are some freqs I found on digitalfrequencysearch.
Radio shop likely talked them into it.
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Talkgroups in the 65xxx range are probably temporary patches.
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Two (or more) talkgroups patched together on the same system. They do that all the time here.
Yeah, we do that on OKWIN at times. I wonder who was on the other end of that patch though unless they patched like two fire dept TGs like like two tac channels or whatever
I've seen a few patches pop up like that before on this system. In those, they patched to Mustang FD (on EDACS - not sure I've seen their TG on the new system yet).
Also to note, the control channel changed last night...it hasn't changed in several months. I wonder what changed.
Also to note, the control channel changed last night...it hasn't changed in several months. I wonder what changed.
It was very early in the morning when i noticed it I don't remember exact times. i think it was in response to a fire on SW 24TH ST. I don't recall the actual street address (I don't want to post it either because Im thinking about those unfortunate fire victims).
If anyone uses SDRTrunk the new 0.5.0 Alpha 1 has RRDB integrated it works.
I recommend to download the system and import the talkgroups to the alias list in the RR tab then reload SDRTrunk 0.5.0 Alpha 1. Then start it. I started it after importing the channels tried to import the talkgroups to the alias list but it wouldn't import all of them but the whole l ist was there. i ended up redoing the whole defaults.xml then re-imported everything reloaded then press start then it showed the entire list of talkgroups in the alias list and read them per live call. The created alias list and channel lists also work in 0.4.0 Final all you have to do is change to your preferred colors and icons. 0.5.0 alpha 1 wont bulk change icons and colors for now.
I recommend to download the system and import the talkgroups to the alias list in the RR tab then reload SDRTrunk 0.5.0 Alpha 1. Then start it. I started it after importing the channels tried to import the talkgroups to the alias list but it wouldn't import all of them but the whole l ist was there. i ended up redoing the whole defaults.xml then re-imported everything reloaded then press start then it showed the entire list of talkgroups in the alias list and read them per live call. The created alias list and channel lists also work in 0.4.0 Final all you have to do is change to your preferred colors and icons. 0.5.0 alpha 1 wont bulk change icons and colors for now.
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I have been listening to the new P25 talk groups that are in RR so far. Hearing a lot of traffic and it sounds a lot better than it did a month ago.
Forgive my ignorance, but I don't understand how the switch-over is facilitated.
How are they partially on the new system as well as the EDACS system? Are there 2 radios in the vehicles that have been moved over? Or are some totally on the new system and some on EDACS and they are patched together?
If I am listening to P25, then I am not hearing some of the traffic on the ProVoice side?
Forgive my ignorance, but I don't understand how the switch-over is facilitated.
How are they partially on the new system as well as the EDACS system? Are there 2 radios in the vehicles that have been moved over? Or are some totally on the new system and some on EDACS and they are patched together?
If I am listening to P25, then I am not hearing some of the traffic on the ProVoice side?
I don't know the exact method of switch over, but from what I've seen from my observations:
Both systems are online and have a link between them...similar to a separate site (but its a separate system to us).
My guess: if the admin "slaves" a talkgroup to a system, it will always be available there. Otherwise, the system watches for affiliations on a talkgroup before linking between the systems.
So you are correct on them (PD) being on both the EDACS and P25 system. If you happen to have two good radios, listen to the same talkgroup on both the EDACS and the P25 system...the dispatchers come through both at nearly the same time (their audio goes straight to the controllers), where the units you can tell which system they are on based on which system you hear the decoded audio on first. Even on the same talkgroup, you will occasionally hear someone on different systems. It seems most (if not all) of the PD is on P25 now. I think they did a phased radio re-program. Had a set of officers bring radios in on schedule, they were re-programmed (added new system, took out old one) and sent them back out. Once migrated, I haven't see any radios back on the old system.
Last I looked into it a lot, I didn't see many FD radios on the new system yet, so I don't think they have really started their main migration yet.
What did you mean by your last sentence/question? Where are you listening - on a scanner or the streaming stuff? You can listen to all (non-encrypted) traffic on the P25 system here: Broadcastify
Both systems are online and have a link between them...similar to a separate site (but its a separate system to us).
My guess: if the admin "slaves" a talkgroup to a system, it will always be available there. Otherwise, the system watches for affiliations on a talkgroup before linking between the systems.
So you are correct on them (PD) being on both the EDACS and P25 system. If you happen to have two good radios, listen to the same talkgroup on both the EDACS and the P25 system...the dispatchers come through both at nearly the same time (their audio goes straight to the controllers), where the units you can tell which system they are on based on which system you hear the decoded audio on first. Even on the same talkgroup, you will occasionally hear someone on different systems. It seems most (if not all) of the PD is on P25 now. I think they did a phased radio re-program. Had a set of officers bring radios in on schedule, they were re-programmed (added new system, took out old one) and sent them back out. Once migrated, I haven't see any radios back on the old system.
Last I looked into it a lot, I didn't see many FD radios on the new system yet, so I don't think they have really started their main migration yet.
What did you mean by your last sentence/question? Where are you listening - on a scanner or the streaming stuff? You can listen to all (non-encrypted) traffic on the P25 system here: Broadcastify
I basically have a favorite list for the ProVoice system and a separate favorite list for the P25 system, and today I have just had the P25 system favorite list turned on. So I was asking if I was missing some radio traffic by only listening to the P25 system (favorite list), and if I would hear all or more radio traffic if I listened to the ProVoice System favorites list. I think I now understand your description of the systems link.
I have not tried 2 radios side by side. I have a 436 in my vehicle that I will bring in and try your suggestion.
A good example of this is the EMSA dispatch channel and their m/a channel. The links are only active when a fd radio affiliates with that TG. Watch the emsa TG when a medical call is dispatched. Sometimes one FF will go to the emsa channel and then as long as their radio is on that TG the patch is active and you hear traffic. However the city still cannot manage to make this easy for either agency as its still not working right. The big E on fires side is messing it up this time.
Most radios for FD have been programmed and are on the system from what I see.
The only thing keeping me from abandoning the EDACS system is that the Warr Acres, Bethany, Yukon, and Mustang FDs are not active yet on the new system. I sure would not want to miss that Mustang FD alert signal. Not sure when things like OCU, OCCC, and other non-OCPD police departments will show up.
Are those departments even on edacs as their primary system? I dont keep track of them. They may be patched to the new system and only active when a radio affiliates to that TG. I have seen their TGs pop up. Additional CC/VC are getting ready to be removed from edacs and activated on the new system. If they arent on it now maybe they wont be idk
Yes, they are all active on the OKC EDACS system. I have not heard them at all outside of the OKC system.
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