They appear to be. I was just mentioning observation.
Future of OKC radio
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Its fun to listen to them test this stuff. The phrases they come up with lol
Audio sounds good too!
Audio sounds good too!
I wonder if the tower is built at FS4
nope
With them working weekend looks like they are in the know. I am curious but I don't need to know details at the same time. I am especially happy Oklahoma City, being the state capital, having a up to date radio system that is better also for multi-agency communications. The AMBE+ codec sounds nicer than Provoice in my opinion. Wise decision of Nikki Nice of Ward 6 to push the recommendation into a unanimously passing vote for the special permit so things can get done.
I want to say that the type of testing being performed is for voice tuning.
We'll find out. I use OKWIN every work day so we'll see how real "interop" it really will be. I am hoping for the best but who knows if I will ever be able to directly communicate with a specific agency on the fly reliably without using the phone to relay/request information like I currently do.
I wish the state would just spend the money and upgrade OKWIN to phase two and everyone be on the same state wide system but that makes too much sense and we all know how the state spends its money....
I am tired of holding back my tongue. Why are you so "negative nancy"? Why are you exhibiting seemingly anti-scanner hobbyist sentiment? Your posts seem to be totally destructive to the hobby saying you "anticipate mostly encrypted". Seems your totally against the scanner hobby. If you are then stfu!
lol im realistic. Encryption, unfortunately, is being used more and more and is becoming the norm. Look at normans system. All encrypted with the exception of dispatch channels. Plus if you talked to some people who are involved with this system you would understand. Im not against the scanner hobby otherwise I wouldn't be on here lol
For those of you wondering the tower is now up at station 4 but only the tower. No equipment in sight. No idea why the photo is sideways.
I maybe should have started a new thread for this? Admin feel free to move it.
Guthrie site 11 switched over to P 25 a couple days ago. I have lost the ability to scan Logan County/Guthrie for the first time in 45 years!
Regardless, I have several P25 capable radios including a new SDS 200.
Do I use the same frequencies and switch to P25 Trunk or P25 X2-TDMA?
Thanks
Guthrie site 11 switched over to P 25 a couple days ago. I have lost the ability to scan Logan County/Guthrie for the first time in 45 years!
Regardless, I have several P25 capable radios including a new SDS 200.
Do I use the same frequencies and switch to P25 Trunk or P25 X2-TDMA?
Thanks
Wrong thread. There is a OKWIN P25 thread I believe. Keep the same frequencies and change to P25. Take the original TG and X or / by 16 to get new TG. They are phase one so no use for TDMA.
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Thank you. In lieu of transferring my BCT15X over I may hold off til the 200 matures and the price comes down. Or just consider it a tax write off for 2020, hmm.
Do we need to start a new thread? It seems the "future of OKC radio" may be looming very soon. There is much more activity (linked?) on the system now. It appears only FD Alert for the FD, but several PD dispatch channels were active today. Also, TGID 426 (likely an IMPACT channel) was on the new system. FYI, impact still seems to be encrypted, but using AES now.
The FD Alert channel is now "on the system" to stay. It was forced onto the system a tad early but its there to stay, the only TG that is "officially" on the system last I knew. They have been doing some more testing on impact and tac channels. The new tower at St 4 is almost complete. PD is still expected to change over first then FD. Could be few more months tho for FD. I would keep this thread going for now. There is already two threads on the same topic.
Looking over some system analysis for updates, there seems to continue to be more activity on the new system.
Similar to the EDACS system, it appears the FD Alert piece may operate similarly. On the old system, there was a brief i-call (individual call) sent to specific radios that corresponded with the station about to be called. This appears to be the same here, but with slightly different radio IDs. The old system, station 1 was radio ID 2161, on the new system that corresponds to 2062161. I haven't seen this functioning 100% of the time - it could just be reminiscent links from the old system.
Affiliations started going much more active yesterday, and those don't seem to be a "pass through" from the old system. I don't think that many of the radios affiliating are technically using the new system yet - they just have access to it.
Since we are getting more radio IDs now, the patterns work out a little different than the old system.
PD Mobiles - used to be in the 9xxx range, now in the 1069xxx range
PD handhelds - used to be in the 11xxx, 12xxx, or 14xxx range, now in the 1011xxx, 1012xxx, 1014xxx range
Dispatch consoles used to be 1xx, new in the 20601xx range (only Fire so far)
There are some "new" radios in the 5000xx, 5003xx, and 5009xx range that are using the "new" talkgroups in the 32x range.
Similar to the EDACS system, it appears the FD Alert piece may operate similarly. On the old system, there was a brief i-call (individual call) sent to specific radios that corresponded with the station about to be called. This appears to be the same here, but with slightly different radio IDs. The old system, station 1 was radio ID 2161, on the new system that corresponds to 2062161. I haven't seen this functioning 100% of the time - it could just be reminiscent links from the old system.
Affiliations started going much more active yesterday, and those don't seem to be a "pass through" from the old system. I don't think that many of the radios affiliating are technically using the new system yet - they just have access to it.
Since we are getting more radio IDs now, the patterns work out a little different than the old system.
PD Mobiles - used to be in the 9xxx range, now in the 1069xxx range
PD handhelds - used to be in the 11xxx, 12xxx, or 14xxx range, now in the 1011xxx, 1012xxx, 1014xxx range
Dispatch consoles used to be 1xx, new in the 20601xx range (only Fire so far)
There are some "new" radios in the 5000xx, 5003xx, and 5009xx range that are using the "new" talkgroups in the 32x range.
Radio programming/swaps appear to be continuing. Based on the last few weeks of data, there have been 1442 radios utilize the PD talkgroups, and just judging by radios they affiliate with the new system, they are nearly half-way finished. Last count, I have 686 radios that have affiliated with those same groups. It does not appear many fire radios are setup yet (patches aren't active either). There has been some activity on the "private calls" similar to the old system for station alerting. I wouldn't say it's setup fully yet.
If you have two radios (one capable of PV, and one P25), its interesting to listen to one talkgroup...you can hear which systems the units come in on based on the audio delay.
It appears all PD Tac channels are now encrypted. Looks like we won't be able to listen to funeral processions anymore.
If you have two radios (one capable of PV, and one P25), its interesting to listen to one talkgroup...you can hear which systems the units come in on based on the audio delay.
It appears all PD Tac channels are now encrypted. Looks like we won't be able to listen to funeral processions anymore.
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