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mortoma61

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I work at Texas Instruments (used to be IMFT and Micron before that). And I now work with a woman who was a dispatcher for the Unified police (Salt Lake county area) for quite a while. What she told me made me sick. She said that most departments are licking their chops in anticipating of much more encryption with the new digital system that's coming. Her husband is also a police officer. The reason is really not much to do with the people who listen in on smart phone aps. But they have a problem with folks with scanners that not only listen in but are literally showing up at places to "get in on the action". Like hypothetically, if there was a dispatch for some type of altercation at say, a Walmart somewhere, these dispatch chasers with scanners might go to the scene! Police insanely frown on such activity. No normal scanner enthusiast would do that but there are people that do this type of thing. If what she said is true, get ready for a lot more radio silence and less exciting scanner action. The new digital system will allow them to encrypt at will. I'm just telling you what she said and if anyone disagrees or thinks I'm lying, too bad. It's just what someone told me but she should know something as she only quit dispatching about a year and a half ago. Ready for all the negative replies now from naysayers. But don't blame me, just repeating what I heard.
 

MotoTRK

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I work at Texas Instruments (used to be IMFT and Micron before that). And I now work with a woman who was a dispatcher for the Unified police (Salt Lake county area) for quite a while. What she told me made me sick. She said that most departments are licking their chops in anticipating of much more encryption with the new digital system that's coming. Her husband is also a police officer. The reason is really not much to do with the people who listen in on smart phone aps. But they have a problem with folks with scanners that not only listen in but are literally showing up at places to "get in on the action". Like hypothetically, if there was a dispatch for some type of altercation at say, a Walmart somewhere, these dispatch chasers with scanners might go to the scene! Police insanely frown on such activity. No normal scanner enthusiast would do that but there are people that do this type of thing. If what she said is true, get ready for a lot more radio silence and less exciting scanner action. The new digital system will allow them to encrypt at will. I'm just telling you what she said and if anyone disagrees or thinks I'm lying, too bad. It's just what someone told me but she should know something as she only quit dispatching about a year and a half ago. Ready for all the negative replies now from naysayers. But don't blame me, just repeating what I heard.
I can tell you as someone with extremely close ties to this system at a way higher level than a dispatcher that this isn’t the case. UCA wouldn’t allow a flat out 100% secure across the board, there’s way too many headaches and fiascos associated with that on a statewide level.
 

marcotor

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I can tell you as someone with extremely close ties to this system at a way higher level than a dispatcher that this isn’t the case. UCA wouldn’t allow a flat out 100% secure across the board, there’s way too many headaches and fiascos associated with that on a statewide level.

What headaches and fiascos would happen if all the subscribers were up to speed with keys, including say common keys for mutual aid situations, and proper subscriber programming including of course not strapping for TG's used by non encrypted agencies?

Asking for a friend
 

gldavis

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Right now, it is all guess work. Once the system gets up and running. we will find out. There are a lot of conversations, at all levels, about encryption. We shall see. On the other hand, we do know that we will have over 1,900 new Talk Groups to figure out. Busy times ahead.
 

enosjones

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The 700 UCA p25 some of the sites have neighbors, those u use unitrunker or especially dsdplus, or sdr trunk can help with identifying the neighbors for each site, some activity has been noticed on the system
 

enosjones

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I'm having problems getting discord to respond on my phone and it just freezes up so thats why I've not been active on there, it won't let me type, or takes too long to load to even type anything
 

wtbman

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Hey, I'm a newb with an SDR dongle trying to tap into the current UCAN network. I'm closest to 852.8375 in Davis County and I'm using sdrtrunk (Mac OS). I can't seem to get anything on the control channel. I can pick up all sorts of random WBFM frequencies with police traffic using SDR++ but the conversations are all over the place because it's a trunked system and the channels are shared? I loaded all the aliases and frequencies into sdrtrunk from radioreference.com using a subscription. Oddly I can lock onto CONTROL status in the 700mhz range with the new network but it doesn't seem like anything is going on there. What am I missing? I'm also interested in the discord channel but the links are expired. Thanks!
 

enosjones

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The system isn't active its just online, its in testing phase and has been pushed back til later in the year. Basically we are just identifying sites and frequencies an occasional talkgroup comes on ,mostly for testing nothing else yet...
 

gldavis

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You may have downloaded the wrong system. There is no activity in the 700 Mhz system. You need to load the 800 Mhz system and lock onto the 852.8375 control channel.
 

zolapop

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You may have downloaded the wrong system. There is no activity in the 700 Mhz system. You need to load the 800 Mhz system and lock onto the 852.8375 control channel.

I'm having the same problem. I can lock onto the 852.8375 control channel, but can't get a signal to hear the audio in SDRTrunk. I'm in west Davis by Syracuse. Could you share your screenshots or your playlist .xml files to help me out?
 

MrBungle

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I'm having the same problem. I can lock onto the 852.8375 control channel, but can't get a signal to hear the audio in SDRTrunk. I'm in west Davis by Syracuse. Could you share your screenshots or your playlist .xml files to help me out?
I'm having a heck of a time with SDRTrunk- I can lock onto my local 769.68125 and it doesn't budge, complete with tons of data and a loaded details tab. But anything 7202 is just crickets. Won't lock onto anything unless it's 700Mhz. I was thinking about making a new thread.
 
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