Hamilton County

[Agentblack]

Dispatch is NOT using portables. they are using the back up radios, but they are NOT portables.

 

[GTO_04]

Dispatch is NOT using portables. they are using the back up radios, but they are NOT portables.

I heard one of the dispatchers say they were using portables.

GTO_04

 

[Agentblack]

And I can assure you with 100% accuracy that they ARE NOT using portable radios. They are using the back up radios installed on every dispatch station.

 

[Agentblack]

hamilton county is OUT of bypass

 

[W9DTC]

I heard one of the dispatchers say they were using portables.

GTO_04

I heard the same.

Also, while they were having these issues I was picking up a bunch of different IDs. There is a new dispatch ID (either 2037 or 2307... i don't have my scanner at my desk). It sounds like a fire dispatch channel.

 

[Agentblack]

The dispatcher may have SAID they were using "portables" but the term is interchanged with actual portables and the back up radios installed at each dispatch position.

When the dispatcher is using these backup radios you will see different ID's and radio LID's.

 

[W9DTC]

Anyhow... Fire (not sure if it is county dispatch or one of the towns) is broadcasting on ID 2037. When I find other IDs that aren't listed in the RadioReference database, how do I report these properly to get them added?

 

[INDY72]

If you ID a new TALKGROUP ID, use the submit information buttons on the page. TY!

 

[GTO_04]

The dispatcher may have SAID they were using "portables" but the term is interchanged with actual portables and the back up radios installed at each dispatch position.

When the dispatcher is using these backup radios you will see different ID's and radio LID's.

Thanks for the clarification.

GTO_04

 

[Agentblack]

Thanks for the clarification.

GTO_04

no problem.. glad to clear up some of the misinformation floating around about the hamilton co systems..

 

[Dispatch2323]

Ma-1?

What does it mean when Hamilton County fire units go to MA-1 and leave the trunked system? I assume it's mutual aid 1. What is the freq?

 

[Agentblack]

It means they are going to a radio to radio communications only on the nationwide 800mhz mutual aid frequencies. Please reference the database for the frequency information.

 

[Agentblack]

unless you are within 2-3 miles of the incident scene, you will not hear them on the MA channels as they are not going through a repeater/trunk system. also you might try these:

866.0125 National Calling
866.5125 National Tac 1
867.0125 National Tac 2
867.5125 National Tac 3
868.0125 National Tac 4

found searching the forums here.

another document of interest even though it is for southern indiana, it does cover some of how the centers around CI operate:

http://www.in.gov/ipsc/files/Region_N_Regional_Mutual_Aid_Policies.pdf

and another

http://www.in.gov/ipsc/files/mutual-aid-options.pdf

 

[Anon6083]

another document of interest even though it is for southern indiana, it does cover some of how the centers around CI operate:

http://www.in.gov/ipsc/files/Region_N_Regional_Mutual_Aid_Policies.pdf

and another

http://www.in.gov/ipsc/files/mutual-aid-options.pdf

Those are a couple of very interesting documents; thank a lot for sharing them.

 

[Agentblack]

power of google my friend.. plus knowing where to look helps most agencies that have 800 systems will switch to MA's when they are on scene of large buildings due to the poor penetration qualities of 800mhz.

 

[SCPD]

I heard one of the dispatchers say they were using portables.

GTO_04

They do use Portables as do MECA when there is a total fail of DSP also Hamilton County Uses Safe T as a back up system when you here them say go to back up they are going to Safe T radios. When they go to Bypass it splits the system into two seprate systems back the way it was in the past it puts Carmel on there own system with there own CC and Hamilton County on there own CC and you will see some times different TG show up when in Bypass. This has already been brought up in other threads and has been proven to be the case.

 

[Agentblack]

They do use Portables as do MECA when there is a total fail of DSP also Hamilton County Uses Safe T as a back up system when you here them say go to back up they are going to Safe T radios. When they go to Bypass it splits the system into two seprate systems back the way it was in the past it puts Carmel on there own system with there own CC and Hamilton County on there own CC and you will see some times different TG show up when in Bypass. This has already been brought up in other threads and has been proven to be the case.

Once again, this is incorrect information. Hamilton County Sheriff's Office including the town of Fishers, Sheridan, Cicero, Atlanta, Arcadia, all Fire departments except Carmel City, Westfield and Noblesville, DO NOT switch to Safe-T in the event of a radio failure. When the HCSO says to go to the backup system, IT DOES NOT mean they are going to Safe-T, it means they are using the By-Pass system.

The ONLY agency that I know, for a fact, that uses Safe-T as a "backup" option is Noblesville and Westfield. I can not verify if Carmel uses Safe-T as I do not have inside information into the operations of their center.

Also, HCSO does NOT use "portables" in the event of a failure of the network, UNLESS the mobile radio mounted at each dispatch position fails. The new technology in the radio network negates the reasons to switch to "portables". As it stands currently, all that is needed to switch the dispatch consoles to the "backup" radios is a flip of a switch, and the plugging in of a cord.

 

[SCPD]

Hate to tell you but you have no clue and you should know that they do use Safe T as a back up it must not be happing on your shift is all I can say.

 

[Agentblack]

Respectfully, you have NO CLUE what you are talking about. As I outlined above, only Noblesville and Westfield use Safe-T as the back up, as I do not have information about Carmel, I can't comment. We have ZERO that means none, zilch, zip, Safe-T portables in our center. Given that HCSO dispatches for EVERYONE/THING except Westfield, Carmel, and Noblesville, I'm PRETTY SURE, I know what I'm talking about.

So once again, I will publicly ask you to please refrain from your campaign of misinformation about the Hamilton County Radio Network.

Regards.

 

[SCPD]

Hmmm so I guess the other dispatchers that work there and all the scanner listeners that hear what is going on and the radio techs have no clue and there all wrong and you are right so I think that it is you that needs to publicly stop giving miss information. By the way tell me how you are going to dispatch a run when there is no power to those two radios nor a communication tower that may be down in an emergency hmm the only way then is by portable and I very seriously don’t think that there are NO portables to be found in the HCS Dispatch Center if there is none than that is very stupid on there part.