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railtrailbiker
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Hoboken FD is currently dispatching on a 470 MHz T-Band frequency, which has to be "given back" within the next few years, yet Hoboken PD (whose dispatch frequency is not subject to any current or proposed FCC action) is planning to move? Makes no sense to me, unless FD plans to take over the current PD frequencies when PD moves to NJICS.
Well, since I neither have the time nor the inclination to delve into every post on every threat to find out if someone else knows what I know, I posted a very basic post to find out more.
The least you could have done is put up a link to the other thread to find out more.
And I did find out something here: could it be that Hoboken Fire will move to the PD frequencies, and the PD to the state? Could be, from what we see above. Could make things easier in the long run.
Also: with JC still using the 460s, rather than 470s, could they remain on their trunked system for as long as they want, with no reason to move to the state's system?
The least you could have done is put up a link to the other thread to find out more.
And I did find out something here: could it be that Hoboken Fire will move to the PD frequencies, and the PD to the state? Could be, from what we see above. Could make things easier in the long run.
Also: with JC still using the 460s, rather than 470s, could they remain on their trunked system for as long as they want, with no reason to move to the state's system?
Some history: Hoboken PD's 800mhz conventional repeaters were located at Marine View Towers on the river. Their license was for the roof of City Hall. Small difference for those familiar with the area. When someone built up their trunked system they were hearing Hoboken and it was knocking out their channel(s) on the system. They [Hoboken] were told at that they had move the equipment to where it was licensed. My understanding is that this was done within the last year or two.
They have no voting receivers and no wireline control of their repeater. This [no voting] causes issues with people uptown getting in to the downtown repeater without voting due to the construction density in the city.
To fix it they decided going to PSIC was apparently better/easier than fixing their radio system, or, were sold the usual sales bill of goods by a sales person. They have been planning this for a couple of years, probably around the first time they had interference issues and were jumping from Channel 1 to 2 all the time.
I don't think fire will move off their 470 channel to join PSIC.
They have no voting receivers and no wireline control of their repeater. This [no voting] causes issues with people uptown getting in to the downtown repeater without voting due to the construction density in the city.
To fix it they decided going to PSIC was apparently better/easier than fixing their radio system, or, were sold the usual sales bill of goods by a sales person. They have been planning this for a couple of years, probably around the first time they had interference issues and were jumping from Channel 1 to 2 all the time.
I don't think fire will move off their 470 channel to join PSIC.
railtrailbiker
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Just saw this in the on line version of the Hoboken Observer:
Police to get new communication system
Two contracts totaling about $1.2 million were awarded by the council to provide a new digital communication system for the Police Department.
Police Chief Ken Ferrante said, “We have an archaic radio system…whenever we have hot and humid weather we start losing channels, which is very dangerous.” He said by 2019 they won’t be able to add new parts to their system.
Ferrante said the new system could be fully installed in the next four to five months.
Police to get new communication system
Two contracts totaling about $1.2 million were awarded by the council to provide a new digital communication system for the Police Department.
Police Chief Ken Ferrante said, “We have an archaic radio system…whenever we have hot and humid weather we start losing channels, which is very dangerous.” He said by 2019 they won’t be able to add new parts to their system.
Ferrante said the new system could be fully installed in the next four to five months.
railtrailbiker
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Has anyone either heard or seen Hoboken PD testing on 700 MHz yet?
Doing some more research:
http://hobokennj.iqm2.com/Citizens/FileOpen.aspx?Type=14&ID=1094&Inline=True
See pages 612-618
Zetron Max (awesome console system btw) 4 positions
See pages 626 - 629.
Harris Portables XL-185P, 170 of them - w/single key AES/DES (FYI), 7/800 & TDMA.
Harris Mobiles, XG75's, 31 of them.
I would tend to guess they will operate the entire system off control stations and this won't be core connected given the equipment list in the quotes.
http://hobokennj.iqm2.com/Citizens/FileOpen.aspx?Type=14&ID=1094&Inline=True
See pages 612-618
Zetron Max (awesome console system btw) 4 positions
See pages 626 - 629.
Harris Portables XL-185P, 170 of them - w/single key AES/DES (FYI), 7/800 & TDMA.
Harris Mobiles, XG75's, 31 of them.
I would tend to guess they will operate the entire system off control stations and this won't be core connected given the equipment list in the quotes.
railtrailbiker
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So if I'm reading the most recent reply correctly, Hoboken is going to be using Harris radios? On the NJICS system, right? Full time encryption; does anyone know yet?
My understanding is they are joining on NJICS and using Harris radios (they bought enough that there is no question that is likely their plan), no clue if they are going to encrypt them or not. For all I know the feature set could be the minimum requirements to connect to NJICS for a Harris Radio, maybe it ships by default, etc. Frankly I'd be surprised if they encrypted but I have no first hand knowledge if this is their plan or not. Sadly, what sucks for them is not buying multikey - that's just poor guidance from a vendor if anything.
Just throwing it out there. If they are joining they'll obviously do testing of the new gear. RID's to look for will be in the 905### range.
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Is FD planning on moving also, or just PD?
According to the DB, they have PD TG’s. All full Tim encrypted. Whether they are using them or not, I don’t know. But if they aren’t, sure they will be soon.
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railtrailbiker
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For database administrator: there's no link to NJICS system posted anywhere on the Hudson County database page.
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Got it. I guess there will be a link under Hoboken once Hoboken PD moves over there.
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