LA-RICS P25 system set for final acceptance in November

[blantonl]

After more than a decade of effort, the Los Angeles Regional Interoperable Communications System (LA-RICS) expects to complete the final-acceptance stage of the organization’s Project 15 (P25) system next month, according to information provided this week to the LA-RICS Joint Powers Agreement (JPA) board.

LA-RICS P25 system set for final acceptance in November - Urgent Comms

After more than a decade of effort, the Los Angeles Regional Interoperable Communications System (LA-RICS) expects to complete the final-acceptance stage of the organization’s Project 25 (P25) system next month, according to information provided this week to the LA-RICS Joint Powers Agreement...

urgentcomm.com

System details here:

Los Angeles Regional Interoperable Communications System (LA-RICS) Trunking System, Los Angeles County, California

Los Angeles Regional Interoperable Communications System (LA-RICS) Trunking System Profile

www.radioreference.com

 

[OpSec]

We'll see come 11/17...

 

[BinaryMode]

Watch a massive earthquake take it all out next month...

Edit-

Did the math. Of the 495 talkgroups, 288 are encrypted and 207 are unencrypted. Making 58% of the system encrypted and 41% of the system unencrypted.

 

[Z_DEO5]

It seams like the only real user of the system is LASD and a small handful of city police......hopefully worth the price......

 

[EMTJD]

Might be a dumb question, but I'll ask it, anyway. Presuming LA-RICS is fully operational, or when it is, if I just program in the "Analog simulcast" frequencies, will that be enough or do I need to have the trunking channels in as well?

 

[brendan3]

Might be a dumb question, but I'll ask it, anyway. Presuming LA-RICS is fully operational, or when it is, if I just program in the "Analog simulcast" frequencies, will that be enough or do I need to have the trunking channels in as well?

My understanding is that if it’s P25 then you will need to assign talkgroups as well. But I’m new with the digital stuff.

 

[INDY72]

This is an P25 system. The conventional stuff is also P25. For the trunked portion you must program it as such.

 

[monitor142]

LA-RICS celebrates final acceptance of P25 system built by Motorola Solutions - Urgent Comms

The Los Angeles Regional Interoperable Communications System (LA-RICS) announced its final acceptance of its much-anticipated Project 25 (P25) radio system built by Motorola Solutions during a ribbon-cutting ceremony conducted last month. LA-RICS Executive Director Scott Edson (pictured above...

urgentcomm.com

 

[tsalmrsystemtech]

Watch a massive earthquake take it all out next month...

Edit-

Did the math. Of the 495 talkgroups, 288 are encrypted and 207 are unencrypted. Making 58% of the system encrypted and 41% of the system unencrypted.

Nothing to celebrate for our tax dollars that bring absolutely no value to this RR.com site. 58 percent of everything worth wild is gone and the other 41 percent brings absolutely no value moving forward. Part of the 41 percent that people need to factor in that the daily activity for LACOFD is not even going to be running on this system. They are staying on UHF-2 Analog moving forward for good. So re do the math and maybe say 75 to 80 percent gone. The other 25 percent are interops or other non related talkgroups that most likely will never be used on a daily basis or at all. Plus also factor in that LASO is still on UHF-2 Analog for now. When they move over to LA-RICS for good they will be gone too. So lets now say 90 percent gone to The most state of the art ATT FIRST NET Phase II TDMA system ever built.

So basically the whole LA County Basin is about gone except for San Diego County. LA County - SBDCO - Orange County - Riverside Counties are pretty much history. Please do not move to Southern California at all if you are a wise person. A two bedroom house that is 1000 sq feet and without a garage will cost you 1 million now and gases prices are 5 bucks a gallon. Please stay away and move as fast as you can away eastbound somewhere else. I am actually coming from a good place. There is no hate here. I have just seen this whole California and the Southern Basin just go to hell and is never coming back. I have been here for over 50 years now and I have seen nothing get better in due time moving forward.

Also, the whole State of California CHP will be moving from VHF Low Band and will be going over to The new StateWide CRIS system and will be a 100 percent encrypted statewide. Thank you to our wonder puppet Gavin and The DOJ

 

[RayAir]

But where else can you find a 500 square foot apartment for $3,000/mth?

 

[MTS2000des]

But where else can you find a 500 square foot apartment for $3,000/mth?

NYC, who also has an unlimited budget and just dropped half a billion on APX NEXTs

 

[INDY72]

NYC, who also has an unlimited budget and just dropped half a billion on APX NEXTs

NYC who has not even finished rolling out the Gen 1 APX's, and a long way still from full P25... Already ready to put them on E-Bay and jump to uber APX's... Doesn't matter what coast they be on, Demogeniuses and your money flushing down the toilet... LOL But back on topic, Yes, RICS is going to be very busy, but yes, you won't be hearing most of it due to the powers that be.

 

[AES-256-Encryption]

Heh! Sysid: 69F. Nice

 

[mikegilbert]

69F

nice

 

[tsalmrsystemtech]

APX NEXT RADIOS:

The inside bones are an 8000 radio board with an Android board for the OS for the apps to run on them. LTE will be cool to and you can have your LTE carrier on the phone too. Basically its a glorified APX 8000 radio with a touch screen but how cool if you have the areas to really use it to its full ability. The problem now is that all radios mostly moving forward will have to go thru Motorola Radio Management to activate the radios and then they can do whatever with your radio. What scary is that Motorola will have full ability to do whatever they want with your radio. I heard that the engineers on the project did not want to have that new NEXT radios be attached to Radio Management but of course Moto wants it that way. So basically its a iPhone and will be trackable until its hacked so you don't connect to radio management for them to control your radio. Also, no more MACE boards in the radio. AES-256 Software Defined Encryption now. No need to have all of those Algo's anymore. Just use AES-256 and that's it. Of course it will have ADP too. This is pretty much the standard accross the board now. Using AES-256 Software Defined is so easy and you do not even need a 5K Moto loader anymore. You can use your own programming cable and The KDF tools to load your keys now. Its free now. Also, the radio having LTE and WiFi so you if lose LMR signal you will not even know on your radio that it switched from LMR to LTE on the fly. It will connect to LTE and not lose a beat on communication.

If you look at the brochures for Motorola NEXT radios you can see the APX quad band NEXT XE in Green. The radio looks so cool and its pretty sweet to see one in action. Pretty pricey but they will be more affordable down the raod. I guarantee next year they will be pretty easy to get your hands on one if you want. Also, too if you do NAS correctly of course it will work great on the NEXT and also you can program a Harris System on them too. Harris NAS is just a few more technicial steps to make the radio work. Harris did it right with their radios. Just a couple of check marks and you just tell your radio not to affiliate.

The APX NEXT is Quad Band - Basically the Bentely and Ferrari of the Motorola World Now.
The N70 is the same radio I think but only in single band 700/800 only. Don't quote me on this.
The N50 is a pretty cool radio too. I think to replace the APX 6000. I think you can't even get this radio in UHF either now.
Then you have the N30 too and all of these radios are all controlled and activated by Motorola Radio Management now.

Now what is crazy is that if you want UHF in the new APX NEXT Models or the N series you have to buy the Quad Band NEXT. I think maybe because UHF band if not super needed much anymore. Kind of throws you into the big daddy radio quad band to get your money if you need UHF for anything or for your UHF Trunking TRS system.

What I have noticed in the business portion of Motorola with their XPR radios is there no UHF 1 or UHF 2 band different radios to buy. Its all one UHF band on the radio. 403.0000 to 520.0000. Interesting.

 

[tsalmrsystemtech]

How Friggin Cool looking this radio is in Green XE model

 

[INDY72]

Now what is crazy is that if you want UHF in the new APX NEXT Models or the N series you have to buy the Quad Band NEXT. I think maybe because UHF band if not super needed much anymore. Kind of throws you into the big daddy radio quad band to get your money if you need UHF for anything or for your UHF Trunking TRS system.

Chicago, LA, NY... Three of the biggest cities in the US, and lookie lookie, UHF users primarily. Yes, Chicago and LA both now have 700/800 P25 TRS's in operation, but the police will be on UHF for a while still. LACoFD will be on UHF for many more years. NYPD will be UHF until God says to change, then they will fight Him over it. Many, many cities in CA are on UHF, and will be for at least 2 to 5 more years. The real reason Motorola has eliminated pure UHF radios from the future of APX series is that many of those in UHF are transitioning to 700/800 TRS, and the ones that are not need to have integrated systems to make interoperability a lot easier than constantly having to have dispatch centers doing patches etc. If you have the new radios, you can load up various zones with the other systems no matter what band they run, and if you need to talk to them on the fly, you switch zones. As for the integrated LTE/LMR it not only is great for when you slip into "dead zones" of your LMR system, but again. if your needed in an interoperational sense such as disaster aid, you can still be in full contact with your home agency literally anywhere there is FirstNET or the like availability. Also say part of your LMR system has catastrophic failure, your radios go to LTE and your still in communication.

 

[MTS2000des]

APX NEXT RADIOS:

The inside bones are an 8000 radio board with an Android board for the OS for the apps to run on them. LTE will be cool to and you can have your LTE carrier on the phone too.

Not true. The LTE modem is provisioned by MSI, they bill the customer for connected services. There is no "phone" capability, it is an IOT device and MSI has taken great pains to remove all ability to side load apps and lock down the device. It connects to Radio Central and all applications are pushed down from RC. If it is not a MSI sanctioned application, it won't run on the NEXT. (I'd love to have our non-MSI CAd mobile app, OneSolution Freedom on our NEXTs but MSI will never provision something they don't sell or support).

The idea of a "used APX NEXT" is a fallacy. The radios are sold by MSI and married to RC agency accounts. Not sure where your info is coming from, but I manage a small batch of these for our agency and they are locked down tighter than a nun's convent.

 

[AES-256-Encryption]

Chicago, LA, NY... Three of the biggest cities in the US, and lookie lookie, UHF users primarily. Yes, Chicago and LA both now have 700/800 P25 TRS's in operation, but the police will be on UHF for a while still. LACoFD will be on UHF for many more years. NYPD will be UHF until God says to change, then they will fight Him over it. Many, many cities in CA are on UHF, and will be for at least 2 to 5 more years. The real reason Motorola has eliminated pure UHF radios from the future of APX series is that many of those in UHF are transitioning to 700/800 TRS, and the ones that are not need to have integrated systems to make interoperability a lot easier than constantly having to have dispatch centers doing patches etc. If you have the new radios, you can load up various zones with the other systems no matter what band they run, and if you need to talk to them on the fly, you switch zones. As for the integrated LTE/LMR it not only is great for when you slip into "dead zones" of your LMR system, but again. if your needed in an interoperational sense such as disaster aid, you can still be in full contact with your home agency literally anywhere there is FirstNET or the like availability. Also say part of your LMR system has catastrophic failure, your radios go to LTE and your still in communication.

NYPD... trunking is soon. trust me. there fire has trunking, there next... HAHA! i fooled you again, i said "there next" JUST LIKE APX NEXT!!!

 

[AES-256-Encryption]

NYPD... trunking is soon. trust me. there fire has trunking, there next... HAHA! i fooled you again, i said "there next" JUST LIKE APX NEXT!!!