Los Angeles Regional Interoperable Communications System (LA-RICS) - Master Thread

KevinC

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I happen to have Motorola's CPS program with Advanced Keys Administrators. Programming keys is very easy to do for an experienced programmer as Motorola themselves create the actual AES-256 key and they just mail it to the agency's programmer. The programmer reads the key and assigns the key to specific channels, talk groups, and radios. Then from there, it's just cloning the program into the radios. Whether or not they use OTAR it's up to the agency as I believe is a feature that needs to be purchased from Motorola. However, they have key loaders that can easily program the radios whether they use the KVL 5000 key loader or they have a programming wire that they plug into their laptop. Yes, it just takes labor to manually program each radio but as you said 36 radios and it's as easy as writing the program into the radios after they have it all preprogrammed and ready to clone. Shouldnt take more than a day if they have all 36 radios in front of the programmer. Obviously, it's not just a single button click but if they have OTAR I'm sure it's actually one button. Here is a pdf of part of the Advanced Key Administrator software tutorial and there is a screenshot of the CPS that I use to program Motorola XTS and APX radios. It's not the entire programming instructions because there is a lot to learn. I'm not going to provide the entire instructions but just want to give you a taste make you happy since you think I have no idea what I'm talking about. View attachment 148042View attachment 148044View attachment 148043
Advanced Key Administrator has absolutely nothing to do with encryption keys.
 

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I happen to have Motorola's CPS program with Advanced Keys Administrators.

Well, that sure looks like a lot more than "flipping a switch" or checking a box. I don't know any SysAdmin worth their paycheck that would allow others, much less Motorola to create their keys. And AKA has nothing to do with encryption. Lots of big systems don't have OTAR, which I mentioned in my comment, so it still isn't "checking a box" to key thousands of radios. Think of say Orange County, which can't OTAR - "just labor" means having to touch every radio, twice. With 15,000 subscribers that's a pretty big "just labor" charge.

It's not that easy, and you obviously have no idea how it works in the real world.
 

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wouldn't surprise me if they piggyback off of Lancaster Sheriff freqs.

"The new officers will not hit the streets until next year, however, and will be “nondispatchable,” according to the newspaper. That means they won’t respond directly to 911 calls and will instead respond after the Sheriff’s Department to speak with suspects and victims to try and prevent future incidents, the mayor told the Times."
 

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im not on this site much and someone may have already answered this but I will ask it. Does anyone know when LACOFD and LASD make the switch to their trunked systems?
 

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im not on this site much and someone may have already answered this but I will ask it. Does anyone know when LACOFD and LASD make the switch to their trunked systems?
LASD is using the trunked system for tac channels, special ops, and courts (I believe). The dispatch channels are still analog conventional, but the plan is to move that to the TRS eventually. LACoFD has access to some fire talkgroups, but it's mostly administrative and training. Many of the old sheriff freq pairs got reassigned to fire dept as a part of their "new UHF configuration". They decided analog conventional was more operationally fitting for them, as well as easier to program for outside agencies.
 

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We shall see...

 

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Just Curious,
Anyone know why Long Beach PD has not jumped onboard? You would figure they would want to trash old 460 Analog.
 

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Just Curious,
Anyone know why Long Beach PD has not jumped onboard? You would figure they would want to trash old 460 Analog.
Size, and therefore $$$, I'd guess. Long Beach is huge. In 2021, it was second in sworn officer count (772) only to the city of LA (9,474), and is almost the size of the next four smaller cities Glendale/Santa Monica/Pasadena/Torrance (200–230 each) combined. Source: CADOJ via LAAlmanac.
 

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Well, looks like it's a done deal...


Congrats to Scott and the rest of the team!
 

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Not sure why we would want to make any congratulations to anybody involved with the build out of this system on this forum. There is going to be no benefits to people on this site on what we are all here for. Just saying. ICIS is pretty much all gone. LA-RICS will be taking everyone and LAPD same thing. So there is no upside moving forward. POLB will be taking LB too.

If anybody has any upside please tell me. Oh we get LACOFD to stay on UHF-2 Analog. At least LACOFD is doing absolutely the right thing whoever is run that awesome show over there. Most likely there are some bright minds over there at least on the FIRE side.
 
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