LMRN Technical Data Discussion

[Enjoi19]

Forgot to mention AES Key ID 0E01 (3585) in use on all these groups.

I've logged that key from Whitby on talkgroups 24332-24336, as well as 24341.

Oshawa EMS utilize 5 channels mostly other than their 2 station alert ones, so this could potentially line up with their current configuration. This site basically sees strictly Oshawa EMS groups (2 dispatch + 3 tac) + Toronto CACC.

Tried to check to see if it is also in Toronto but talkgroup 14002 (encrypted) is pounding away on Toronto tower.

14001 has been pretty active over here for a couple days now.

 

[mikewazowski]

Seeing some patches now.
Group 21065 patched with 23197
I'd guess thats one of the Windsor Tac channels to one of the hospitals
I've also seen 21064 patched with 23198

I'm going to assume the VR's have switched from analog to digital now?

 

[w3rwn]

Looked through my logs for today and found a couple of transmissions that were encrypted.

[2024-04-24 15:15:16.089680] (info) [psrn-pontypool] 24559C TG: - ( 14001) Freq: 143.055000 MHz Not Recording: ENCRYPTED - src: 600027

[2024-04-24 15:15:25.626044] (info) [psrn-pontypool] 24568C TG: - ( 14001) Freq: 143.055000 MHz Not Recording: ENCRYPTED - src: 600027

 

[icarus1963]

21060 is getting usage on the King City tower. (Just one talkgroup before the Windsor ones) Tried to check to see if it is also in Toronto but talkgroup 14002 (encrypted) is pounding away on Toronto tower.

14021 (encrypted) with multiple users as been extremely active on the Brant tower for the last two days.

 

[mikewazowski]

21060 is getting usage on the King City tower. (Just one talkgroup before the Windsor ones)

Would make sense it's Windsor CACC.

 

[Enjoi19]

Just looked and I've logged 1800 hits on talkgroup 14001 in the past 3 days, with just a handful prior to that earlier in the month. Same handful of RIDs in the 6000xx range. That feels like a lot more than testing.

 

[w3rwn]

I've logged that key from Whitby on talkgroups 24332-24336, as well as 24341.

Oshawa EMS utilize 5 channels mostly other than their 2 station alert ones, so this could potentially line up with their current configuration. This site basically sees strictly Oshawa EMS groups (2 dispatch + 3 tac) + Toronto CACC.


14001 has been pretty active over here for a couple days now.

Oshawa North and South have been active on FleetNet like normal.
I upload them to Calls via Pontypool and Sunderland sites.

I don't see Hospital Patch traffic, but that's because most of the Durham hospitals are in the coverage of Whitby site, and when the ambulance calls for a patch they are usually 5-10 minutes out and in the same Whitby site.

 

[mbstone99]

14021 (encrypted) with multiple users as been extremely active on the Brant tower for the last two days.

The two in that range active on Hamilton are 14002 & 14021. I don't see any over-lapping RID's yet between the two talkgroups. But 14021 is the one being more used on the Hamilton tower so far.

14002 600002/5/7/12/15
14021 600003/8/17/19/20/25

Matt

 

[w3rwn]

14021 (encrypted) with multiple users as been extremely active on the Brant tower for the last two days.

Couple of higher profile arrests in Brantford area over the last couple of days.
I would not be surprised if ERT was already using LMRN and really happy about not being in the clear on 1TACs.

 

[VA3DBJ]

The hospital patches on the TAC channels for Oshawa are now showing up on the new system. Also, I haven't picked up any of the new EMS VR's since Monday, so encryption must have been enabled.

 

[mikewazowski]

Also, I haven't picked up any of the new EMS VR's since Monday, so encryption must have been enabled.

You should be picking up encrypted P25 on the VR's now.

 

[VA3ADP]

The hospital patches on the TAC channels for Oshawa are now showing up on the new system. Also, I haven't picked up any of the new EMS VR's since Monday, so encryption must have been enabled.

Any idea on TG ranges for those? Maybe it will help us confirm other OSH CACC TG's

 

[Forts]

So Oshawa has switched as well as Essex?

 

[w3rwn]

So Oshawa has switched as well as Essex?

Oshawa Dispatch activity remains on FleetNet at this time.
What VA3DBJ said is hospital patches have moved and I can confirm that I do not see Oshawa TAC activity on FleetNet, which is where the patches are done for the Mobile.
A look at my logs for Encrypted Calls shows activity on 14001 and 14002 an RID 600xxx, but I dont know what that is.

 

[Forts]

Seems very odd they would switch patches over but not general comms. The 14xxx groups have to be something else I'd think.

 

[mciupa]

The 14xxx groups have to be something else I'd think.

I wonder if it might be MTO Enforcement? The Maintenance Teams are already on-line

 

[Forts]

I've heard elsewhere that they will no longer have their own groups... They'll just hang out on the local OPP OPS group.

Could maybe be MNR... Haven't heard much about them.

 

[Enjoi19]

The 1400x talk groups seem far too active to be hospital patches.

I’ve seen some FleetNet MNR activity as well in the past few days.

 

[Gymbag]

I've heard elsewhere that they will no longer have their own groups... They'll just hang out on the local OPP OPS group.

Could maybe be MNR... Haven't heard much about them.

I’ve been hearing MNR today on FleetNet today.

 

[w3rwn]

The 1400x talk groups seem far too active to be hospital patches.

I’ve seen some FleetNet MNR activity as well in the past few days.

Agree on activity level. 10am to about 4pm today, 14002 was busy on Pontypool - 350 discrete transmissions.
RID 600002, 600005, 600012, 600014, 600015, 600046, 600053,

Here's my log. I stripped out MTO traffic and various useless log messages.

04-25-2024_0000_01

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