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Bigdummy

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Hey Guys I think that I messed up, I am trying to program my BCD996XT using Freescan And I can't get the metro freqs. back on, Can some one tell me what I have gone wrong, I am getting some kind of mess up with the metrosafe site and the Lou EMG when I Try to unload to the scanner, this time I am receiving anthing no police, no fire nothing Thanks. Tony
 

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It really doesn't apply.
Why do you say that? It is supposed to prevent the giving out of any patient information without the patient's permission. Putting that information over the air unencrypted is doing just that. Yes you are correct in that many EMS organizations are not doing it but that's not saying they're correct.
 

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Why do you say that? It is supposed to prevent the giving out of any patient information without the patient's permission. Putting that information over the air unencrypted is doing just that. Yes you are correct in that many EMS organizations are not doing it but that's not saying they're correct.

It drives me crazy when people/agencies hide behind HIPAA because of the myths that surround it. This is directly from a law firm that specializes in EMS:

Myth No. 1: Dispatch centers can't give out any identifiable information over the radio.
Fact: HIPAA doesn't prevent dispatch centers from communicating all information necessary
for EMS response and treatment to EMS agencies. While patient names shouldn't be given out
unless truly necessary, a dispatch center may transmit any information necessary to facilitate
the EMS treatment of a patient.

Myth No. 2: Ambulance services are violating HIPAA if they give patient information to the
hospital over the radio.
Fact: HIPAA permits any and all treatment-related disclosures of patient information between
health care providers. Ambulances are freely permitted to give patient information to hospitals
over the radio for treatment purposes.

Myth No. 3: Dispatch centers must convert all communications equipment to digital or
institute new privacy technologies so that people with scanners can no longer hear radio
dispatches.
Fact: HIPAA does not prohibit dispatch centers from communicating with ambulance services,
which is necessary for response and patient treatment, even though everyone in "scannerland"
can listen in! These are called "incidental disclosures" under HIPAA, meaning they are
legitimate disclosures with unavoidable side-effects, and are permissible under HIPAA.
 

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It really doesn't apply. The real answer as to why they do it is "because they can." The majority of EMS agencies do not encrypt their communications. However, I'm not really opposed to it. I'd rather see the primary dispatch channels in the clear with some secondary channels encrypted that they could switch to for sensitive information. Maybe encrypt the hospital channels as well.

No it doesn't, but HIPAA is used as a convenient excuse...
plus it has messed up dispatching for rural areas because they no longer will give a name of a resident which is better know 3500 600 South RD

Most EMS-hospital traffic has gone to cellular for the same reason. (HIPAA)
 

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need help to reprogram my BCD996XT

Can Any one tell what good program that I can use to program the metro safe radio freqs. I have Freescan But it is not let me program the freqs. in I think is may be me and that I am not doing something right. I did have things working before, andI did not save the info. and now that they have updated I can not get it to download right. What do I need to do now Tony
 

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ALL of EMS channels are encrypted, even those that are used for pre-hospital care instructions. I don't think MetroSafe is "hiding behind" HIPPA. In any of the discussions I've been party to, HIPPA was never mentioned as the reasons for encryption.

Rather it was your basic consideration for the privacy of others, and that is all. And I for one am glad that they are being considerate.
 

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Hey Guys I think that I messed up, I am trying to program my BCD996XT using Freescan And I can't get the metro freqs. back on, Can some one tell me what I have gone wrong, I am getting some kind of mess up with the metrosafe site and the Lou EMG when I Try to unload to the scanner, this time I am receiving anthing no police, no fire nothing Thanks. p.s. are tell me the best and the simplest program that is a step by step and what I need to put in at place and what not to put in. ALL I what to do is to put those freqs back my scanner , the police, fire,ect. what do I need
 

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As a Paramedic with LMEMS, I have been very happy with the digital system. We have significantly better coverage and more flexibility. We have 3 dispatch channels (one for each Division) with 3 alternate channels (4, 5,& 6 -- with 6 primarily used for MCI situations). I do like kyparamedic's post because HIPAA is often confusing for some, and misunderstood. It occasionally is a hindrance in medical care because of this. As far as encrypting the EMS section, I could go either way with it. I can appreciate the privacy aspect, as well as one's ability to know what's going on in their community. Fortunately for me, I don't get to make the decision whether to encrypt or not.
 

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ALL of EMS channels are encrypted, even those that are used for pre-hospital care instructions. I don't think MetroSafe is "hiding behind" HIPPA. In any of the discussions I've been party to, HIPPA was never mentioned as the reasons for encryption.

Rather it was your basic consideration for the privacy of others, and that is all. And I for one am glad that they are being considerate.

One of the stupid parts of this whole thing,
When the Fire service is dispatched on a medical , almost the same medical information they are hiding
on dispatch to EMS , is being broadcast in the clear to the fire units..

But then, I never listened to EMS runs before the change ,& rarely have the Police channels on, and consider the use of fire units to make purely medical runs, an insult !. and a drain and a waste
of resources... One of the reasons, I quit the fire service after 17 years.
Sorry , Just not my thing.. I'm a fire fighter..
Fund the EMS services.. Ranting done... !
 

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TG 1608
working on and testing bus radios, apparently they are also using a GPS function in the buses.
Still have not determined whose buses they are.. TARC or school. ?
 

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Tg-1608

TG 1608
working on and testing bus radios, apparently they are also using a GPS function in the buses.
Still have not determined whose buses they are.. TARC or school. ?


After monitoring for several days & reading the TARC webpages, I feel fairly safe in saying that
TG 1608 is TARC.

Found this in their 2008 long range plan statement.

" Automatic Vehicle Location $3.75 million Underway (Radio Project) "
&
"TARC’s capital program for fiscal year 2009 is expected to be $10.7 million. The
funding sources for capital expenditures include federal, state and local sources.
TARC will be focusing the capital dollars on the purchase of buses and a radio
system in fiscal year 2009."


Anyone have other views ?
 

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Does anyone know anthing about the crash fire and rescue at the louisville international airport


Currently on.

http://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?sid=1132
]Radio Communications System (Louisville) Trunking System, Louisville, Kentucky - Scanner Frequencies[/url]

Control Freq 859.5875mhz
Talkgroup 32768

Now if I could just figure out the pager dispatch system they use..

At one time it was reported that they were SUPPOSED to move to metrosafe. but ?
 
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Any idea why Fire 5 is being simulcast on 155.7150? One of the firefighters from my station called and asked if I had any old scanners on because Fire 5 was transmitting on VHF.
 

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That does seem weird. My best guess is that something is afoul at the Waverly Hills site and there is some cross contamination going on between the two systems.

That 155.715 is Pleasure Ridge's "own" VHF channel. MetroSafe doesn't have access to it at the dispatch center, so they could not intentionally patch the two together.
 

Surfer240

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That does seem weird. My best guess is that something is afoul at the Waverly Hills site and there is some cross contamination going on between the two systems.

That 155.715 is Pleasure Ridge's "own" VHF channel. MetroSafe doesn't have access to it at the dispatch center, so they could not intentionally patch the two together.


I'm not hearing it,

SPECULATION on my part:::::::
perhaps, someone was playing with one of PRP's or LD's old VHF radios.
 
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