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Drewstang

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I told him it was possile someone was re-broadcasting on our channel for those who can not afford the digital scanners. I'm still looking for my old desktop scanner to verify, but I heard the traffic over his cell when he called last night.
 

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I told him it was possile someone was re-broadcasting on our channel for those who can not afford the digital scanners. I'm still looking for my old desktop scanner to verify, but I heard the traffic over his cell when he called last night.

I'm still not hearing anything. on the PRP channel
However, when I had the digital scanner close to the analog
I was getting some intermod , perhaps from the IF section of one of them..

still monitoring to see if anything develops...
 

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Did you switch between "Off", "Roam" and "Stationary"? The last time I was in Louisville "Off" worked best for me, the time before it was "Stationary".... Not sure why that is, but it seems like there are parts of Jefferson County where signals from more than one tower are all equally strong and other parts where there is one strong tower that my radio will lock onto.... With the Madison P-25 I have had a lot better luck lately leaving the Multi-Site Function "off"....
 

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Did you switch between "Off", "Roam" and "Stationary"? The last time I was in Louisville "Off" worked best for me, the time before it was "Stationary".... Not sure why that is, but it seems like there are parts of Jefferson County where signals from more than one tower are all equally strong and other parts where there is one strong tower that my radio will lock onto.... With the Madison P-25 I have had a lot better luck lately leaving the Multi-Site Function "off"....



If my Pro-96 has that option, I haven't found it yet..

otherwise its been a good scanner, worked on the SAME weather alert, when the sirens did,nt
I always set the SAME when foul weather is in the forecast..
 

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There was quite a bit of activity on Mutual Aid 2. They had the police and EMS folks there on that channel. Fire stayed on Fire 6 because they were talkative.
 

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Did the Rubbertown Explosion yield any new TGIDs, etc?
No, but it did demonstrate how poorly trained everyone is in using communications! They have this new multimillion dollar state of the art system but nobody bothered talking to anybody else! The emergency management manager was aware of the situation and deemed that there was not a need to notify the community after his arrival. Sometime after that a police lieutenant who did not have complete knowledge of the issue nor try to find out issue that a shelter in place order for the area. Afterwards they said the excuse was they couldn't talk to each other? More like they didn't want to talk to each other.

By the way, the incident is still underway in the fires within the building are still burning because there's no feasible way to extinguish them.
 

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I ain't so sure it is fair to blame the radio system. The emergency responders - police, fire, EMS and emergency management honchos should be in close physical contact with each other and could have just as easily had a face to face communication. And who is to say they didn't - but one said "apples" and the other heard "oranges". We are humans and can mishear things with the best of them.

Even with that - what was the harm with "sheltering in place"? Even if ultimately unnecessary, the worst would have been people staying inside at a minor inconvenience. Also, if nothing else, it might have reduced the number of curiosity seekers on the road system clogging it up for people having a need to get there.

The emergency management manager who was there did try to get all responding agenices to use the same talkgroup and it ended up with everyone but fire being on the same talkgroup - mutual aid 2. So everyone (but fire) was really on the same channel not too long into the incident.

However with all the radio traffic that was going on, I think it would have overloaded one talkgroup had fire gone to mutual aid 2. Then there would be the fussing "with this new system we still can't talk because the channels are so busy".

I believe in listening to the incident the radio system performed reasonably well. The challenge may be in communicating versus communications.

They say that "practice makes perfect". We have so few of these incidents and drills ain't the same as the real deal. Thus we, fortunately for the community, don't have enough to get perfected.
 

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I was in town for this event and found the interop and comms quite appropriate. Command channels were used as command channels and others were used for the separate functions (LE, Fire, EMS). I've been in the business for way too many years and responded to many such scenarios and I will say this one, given the magnitude and potential severity, from a comms perspective seemed to go quite well and they appeared to use the ICS system most appropriately. Is this the first such "disaster" since MetroSafe went in? If so there will certainly be refinements but your PS folks stepped up and did a really good job. Hope the recovery is going well. That was a big hit on your community.

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What unit numbers are the LMPD tow trucks?


Problem is you won't hear much from them unless they are on an event channel. The Traffic / CIS channel is encrypted.

Surfer and Drew, I have been the re-broadcasting of the fire channels for a while on the the old prp channel and this might for the volunteers that are responding so they know to cancel.
 

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Problem is you won't hear much from them unless they are on an event channel. The Traffic / CIS channel is encrypted.

Surfer and Drew, I have been the re-broadcasting of the fire channels for a while on the the old prp channel and this might for the volunteers that are responding so they know to cancel.

Towing has their own talkgroup I believe...according to the XTS5000s they use.
 

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Sorry for the confusion, tow trucks don't have any radios mounted in them last I saw. The operators have XTS5000's though.

I will only say this one more time the tow truck drivers DO NOT have XTS5000's. I have a feeling they use the XTS1500 which is a lower tier Motorola radio. Trust me!!
 

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I was surprised to see them with 5000s. I would have guessed 2500s like most of the PD. I have no idea why they would have 5000s.
 

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Like most things, there is usually a logic explanation for aberrations such as a radio being in the shop for repair and the only loaner available was a 5000. However the Vehicle Impoundment folks, at least the ones I run across, have 1500s.

It required tons of justification and lots of arm twisting for the fire people to get the 5000s because the purse string holders were being very frugal and I can't think of any similar justification being applicable to tow trucks..
 
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