Madison County, KY new radio system thread

[puzzleriddle]

Jonathan, that is the enthusiasm that makes rr.com such an awesome scanner site.... no idea about implementation, but have started learning what I can.... don't know a lot about the system right now... read the link scannerfreak posted and also look at the Fort Knox thread in this forum for a start; the Killeen, Texas (Ft. Hood) 380 thread might yield some clues... I guess we all need to start searching for new control channels. newsalan posted the 500 search procedure in another thread... do you still have your 97? Someone near the sites is going to need to use PRO96 Com or Trunker on it to find out more info when it goes on line. With nine sites there will be a lot of info to process... You are correct, everyone in or near Madison with a digital scanner should try to id stuff, but the earlier Rat Shack scanners won't track a 380 system, so it is going to be up to the folks with the Unidens and PSRs... Either way, your ability to id dispatcher's voices will be crucial....

We all have our work cut out for us!

Why want the RS 197 & 106 work? they are the SAME radios as the GRE 500 & 600???

 

[unitcharlie]

When that reply was posted (02-02-2008, 12:05 PM) I don't believe the PRO 106 or PRO 197 were available and the PSR 500 had been on the market less than a year.... yes, they will work. The PRO 96 will also work with the proper table applied but digital scanners predating the PRO 96 and BCD 396T will not track the New Madison P-25 TRS...

 

[unitcharlie]

Is there anything on the analog system now? I haven't monitored anything in a few weeks, but wanted to check with someone in Madison County who can monitor during the day to see if everyone has moved to the P25 TRS....

 

[hundley206]

That i know of no one is on the old system, All have moved. Iv go a PSR 500 no and am picking up traffic in Madison no problem. However sometimes the radio traffic is very digital and hard to understand...is this normal? if not how can i fix this?

 

[Thunderbolt]

What is the current system ID and WACN for this TRS?

73s

Ron

 

[unitcharlie]

Thanx for the info..... you might try changing the MultiiSite Mode settings on the TSYS page where you have the new TRS..... If you are stationary you might have better luck with that setting rather than roaming.... I have had to turn the MultiSite Mode "Off" when I am in Berea (don't know why), especially..... "Roam" works well for me in Richmond and to the north. Still can't get my 96 to track the system even with help from someone in Madison using a 96 successfully (must be my fumble fingers or old age)....

 

[unitcharlie]

What is the current system ID and WACN for this TRS?

73s

Ron

WACN 92065 Sys ID 001.... the other night a simplex frex displayed 001 NAC...

 

[unitcharlie]

Found this on the internet while looking for something else (gotta love serendipity!)...

Madison County Radio System
Stu Johnson (2010-12-18)

LEXINGTON, KY (WEKU) -
The 20 million dollar radio system is designed to connect first emergency responders and first receivers. Madison County emergency management director, Carl Richards says it includes paramedics, law enforcement, volunteer agencies and hospital officials. He says emergency responders' hands used to be tied to one technology and typically one company.

Follow this link to the full story: Madison County Radio System.
With this story I am going to deprecate the old Madison TRS in the data base....

 

[jsw79]

Scanning the Madison County P25 with a Pro-2096

Hi everyone,

I have a Pro-2096 scanner and have used Win96 to apply the following frequencies to my bank.

851.42500 MOT 0.0 D
851.65000 MOT 0.0 D
851.67500 MOT 0.0 D
852.15000 MOT 0.0 D
852.40000 MOT 0.0 D
852.43750 MOT 0.0 D
852.88750 MOT 0.0 D
853.50000 MOT 0.0 D
853.90000 MOT 0.0 D
856.48750 MOT 0.0 D
857.48750 MOT 0.0 D
858.48750 MOT 0.0 D

The bank itself is set to MOT as are each of the channels. The only channels in this bank are the ones listed as control channels for the system. I have imported the talkgroups as well into this bank and no channels nor talkgroups are locked out. The bank is set to OPEN mode. The control channel, (with "machine gun" noise) is showing up as 851.42500 with a steady receive rate percentage of between 96% to 99%.

For some reason, the scanner appears to not be recognizing this as a trunked system. The issues I am having are as follows;

1.) While in Scan mode, the radio will not stop on an active channel. If I set the device to Manual mode and scroll the channels myself, I can hear clear transmissions. For some reason, the scanner will not stop on these channels when there is obviously radio traffic with good reception. The scan function works perfectly on my other banks. My squelch is set just at the threshold.
2.) While manually searching the P25 bank, when I arrive on a channel that is transmitting, there is no talkgroup ID displayed on my screen. This is obviously an issue with this particular trunked system because I previously scanned the old Madison County system and the ID tags were displayed and I currently am scanning the Fayette County trunked system and the ID tags are displayed without a problem.

I have tried everything I can think of given my limited knowledge of scanners. I have also utilized the Pro96Com program to attempt to decode the control channel. Apparently there are no "hits" recorded on the control channel.

It is not an issue that my scanner itself is not tracking the trunked systems, it appears as though it does not see it as a trunked system and will not stop on active frequencies. I have tried different combinations, for example the bank set as MOT and the channels as FM, the bank and channels both as FM, etc.

When I do have the channels set as FM, however, the scan function WILL work, oddly enough, however the talkgroup IDs will not display and the system will not perform as a trunked system and the active channel will transfer over to a different channel, as a trunked channel should.

Hopefully someone will be able to provide a very simple answer in regards to this problem. I have searched the interwebs thoroughly and have found posts with people having similar problems but have yet to find a "magic bullet" for my issue.

Sorry for the long post, but I am baffled as to what to do next.

 

[unitcharlie]

Send me your .p96 file and I'll take a look at it.... I am not batting anywhere near a thousand with this system using the 96/2096.... the 96's won't track it, the 2096 will....

 

[w4rtt]

I apparently have one of the Pro 96's that won't track this system.
There was an earlier message about using a custom trunking table. Is this the case?
If so, what table settings are used?

Randy
W4RTT

 

[KD4YGG]

Madison County KY New Radio System - Anyone Using A Radio Shack PRO106/GRE PSR-500?

Was through Richmond today and took about 30 minutes to run PRO96COM on this system to gather some information and screeenshots.

Monitoring location: right behind Richmond Fire Station 3
Equipment used: GRE PSR-500 with 800Mhz Rubber Duck

I found the system very difficult to monitor - worse than trying to monitor Indianapolis's P25 system.
Could never get the PSR-500 to unmute with audio.

Screenshots from PRO96COM attached.

I'll be back through that area later this week - would appreciate any hints on getting this one set-up in order to receive.

 

[edkt4hr]

richmond

i found out if you change some of the dg int prime and noise thresh and miss around with the 9600 setting in the trunk settings it will help
each scanner is different on the inside
i live about 30 miles to the east and have problems with the scanner trying to lock on two control channels

 

[KD4YGG]

i found out if you change some of the dg int prime and noise thresh and miss around with the 9600 setting in the trunk settings it will help
each scanner is different on the inside
i live about 30 miles to the east and have problems with the scanner trying to lock on two control channels

Care to share the settings you are using???

 

[KD4YGG]

More Screenshots...

Ran PRO96COM a second time on Friday afternoon...

Got different results showing a second tower...

I'm really confused on this one...

Never could get any useable audio...

 

[KD4YGG]

A big thanks to unitcharlie for giving me some additional insight on this system...

A custom trunking table needs to be set-up for the PSR-500/600 and Radio Shack variants.

Line 00 should read as follows:
LoChan = 0
HiChan = 4095
Offset = 0
Base Freq = 851.062500
Step = 12.500

This solved the reception problem from the "trunktracking" side of things.

 

[unitcharlie]

My pleasure... but must share credit with a number of faithful radioreference.commers who have helped me learn this really strange system....

 

[jgjackson1977]

Is the custom table for this system a 3600cc table or 9600 cc table?

 

[unitcharlie]

Is the custom table for this system a 3600cc table or 9600 cc table?

If you are using WIN 96 to set it up use the Custom Table to the right...
First look right of center and make sure the "Custom Table" button is clicked under 9600 CC... then to the right of that enter the info (the base freq has changed again, but either .0125 or .0625 should work)....
Make sure all 23 freqs are entered, sometimes things happen that the CCs aren't used in that way....

 

[jgjackson1977]

Thanks unitcharlie, I have the table set up per the instructions on the Mad Co thread, but didn't know whether to check custom table in the 3600 or 9600.