Logic be gone! - 4AF. Also peers with the Harford site which surprised me. C4FM is the modulation of the cch, which is consistent with a standalone site.
Did you catch a NAC?4AD would be the logical conclusion...
No Rx from N of of the MD line..
Also, forgot to mention that the nominal receive range for a Phase 2 tower site is roughly 8-12 miles, so if you are in SE PA, you probably won't be able to receive it.
Did you catch a NAC?
No Rx from N of the MD line..
Has anyone logged TGs in the 12215-12220 range? (Should be Fire Tacs.) And the Fire Police in Cecil? (Should be 12239, according to various sources.) I want to confirm before I submit to the db. Also, and anyone confirm the uses for TGs 12204-12206?
And general question: does Cecil use DVRS? FIRST is designed for on-street portable coverage, so in-building *might* require supplemental coverage by DVRS and/or BDAs.
And general question: does Cecil use DVRS? FIRST is designed for on-street portable coverage, so in-building *might* require supplemental coverage by DVRS and/or BDAs.
Logged: Yes, Confirmed usage: No
Code:
TG Hit Count Date Name
12200 0 0000/00/00 0:00 "Cecil ? 12200"
12201 4830 2019/07/01 11:43 "Cecil EMS/FD Main 12201"
12202 4641 2019/07/01 11:42 "Cecil EMS Ops 12202"
12203 498 2019/07/01 11:00 "Cecil Fire Ops 12203"
12204 10 2019/06/23 11:29 "Cecil ? 12204"
12205 14 2019/06/26 16:57 "Cecil ? 12205"
12206 1 2019/05/02 15:11 "Cecil ? 12206"
12207 638 2019/07/01 11:11 "Cecil Ops4 12207"
12208 85 2019/07/01 11:00 "Cecil ? 12208"
12209 73 2019/06/29 7:40 "Cecil ? 12209"
12210 112 2019/06/28 13:33 "Cecil ? 12210"
12211 395 2019/06/28 8:15 "Cecil Ops8 12211"
12212 8 2019/06/25 14:21 "Cecil ? 12212"
12213 4 2019/06/11 8:42 "Cecil ? 12213"
12214 13 2019/06/29 13:41 "Cecil ? 12214"
12215 44 2019/06/28 16:50 "Cecil Fire Tac/Talkaround? 12215"
12216 8 2019/06/12 11:10 "Cecil Fire Tac/Talkaround? 12216"
12217 9 2019/06/25 14:22 "Cecil Fire Tac/Talkaround? 12217"
12218 16 2019/06/26 13:16 "Cecil Fire Tac/Talkaround? 12218"
12219 7 2019/06/26 13:16 "Cecil Fire Tac/Talkaround? 12219"
12220 31 2019/06/26 21:01 "Cecil Fire Tac/Talkaround? 12220"
12221 4 2019/06/25 14:20 "Cecil ? 12221"
12222 3 2019/06/25 14:21 "Cecil ? 12222"
12223 9 2019/06/13 21:18 "Cecil ? 12223"
12224 2 2019/06/04 15:36 "Cecil ? 12224"
12225 3 2019/06/04 15:38 "Cecil ? 12225"
12226 2 2019/06/04 15:38 "Cecil ? 12226"
12227 14 2019/06/29 0:52 "Cecil ? 12227"
12228 2 2019/05/02 15:11 "Cecil ? 12228"
12229 1 2019/05/02 15:11 "Cecil ? 12229"
12230 11 2019/06/11 9:43 "Cecil ? 12230"
12231 1 2019/05/02 15:11 "Cecil ? 12231"
12232 0 0000/00/00 0:00 "Cecil ? 12232"
12233 5 2019/06/29 15:27 "Cecil ? 12233"
12234 0 0000/00/00 0:00 "Cecil ? 12234"
12235 1 2019/05/02 15:11 "Cecil ? 12235"
12236 2 2019/06/11 16:16 "Cecil ? 12236"
12237 3 2019/06/11 16:16 "Cecil ? 12237"
12238 301 2019/06/30 21:39 "Cecil Fire/EMS Private? 12238"
12239 11 2019/06/14 15:07 "Cecil Fire Police? 12239"
12241 465 2019/07/01 3:18 "Cecil ? 12241 Enc"
12242 265 2019/06/28 15:11 "Cecil ? 12242 Enc"
12243 43 2019/06/28 13:48 "Cecil ? 12243 Enc"
12244 70 2019/06/28 15:45 "Cecil ? 12244 Enc"
12246 503 2019/06/28 14:33 "Cecil ? 12246"
12247 6 2019/06/28 10:31 "Cecil ? 12247"
12248 5 2019/06/28 8:25 "Cecil ? 12248"
12249 3 2019/06/28 7:28 "Cecil ? 12249"
12250 1 2019/06/28 13:38 "Cecil ? 12250"
12251 9 2019/06/25 12:47 "Cecil ? 12251 Enc"
12252 5 2019/06/28 17:08 "Cecil ? 12252 Enc"
12253 2 2019/06/11 16:26 "Cecil ? 12253 Enc"
12254 8 2019/06/11 16:26 "Cecil ? 12254 Enc"
12255 7 2019/06/25 9:34 "Cecil ? 12255"
12256 3 2019/06/11 16:39 "Cecil ? 12256"
12258 3 2019/06/28 7:38 "Cecil ? 12258"
12259 19 2019/06/28 15:32 "Cecil ? 12259"
12260 1 2019/06/06 12:09 "Cecil ? 12260"
12261 2 2019/06/28 10:25 "Cecil ? 12261"
12262 1 2019/06/06 12:09 "Cecil ? 12262"
12263 1 2019/06/06 12:09 "Cecil ? 12263"
12265 0 0000/00/00 0:00 "Cecil ? 12265"
12266 42 2019/06/05 13:23 "Cecil Landfill? 12266"
12267 1 2019/06/05 13:16 "Cecil Landfill? 12267"
12268 0 0000/00/00 0:00 "Cecil ? 12268"
12270 261 2019/06/28 13:54 "Cecil 911 Ops Com/Disp? 12270"
12271 3 2019/06/11 16:27 "Cecil ? 12271"
12272 2 2019/06/11 16:46 "Cecil ? 12272"
12273 2 2019/06/11 16:47 "Cecil ? 12273"
12274 3 2019/06/11 16:48 "Cecil ? 12274"
12275 2 2019/06/11 16:48 "Cecil ? 12275"
12276 6 2019/06/28 8:32 "Cecil ? 12276"
12277 4 2019/06/26 10:31 "Cecil ? 12277"
12278 31 2019/06/26 10:52 "Cecil Transit? 12278"
12279 6 2019/06/11 8:37 "Cecil Transit? 12279"
12280 7 2019/06/19 12:09 "Cecil Transit? 12280"
12281 0 0000/00/00 0:00 "Cecil Transit? 12281"
12282 1 2019/06/05 12:41 "Cecil Transit? 12282"
12284 50 2019/06/28 8:11 "Cecil ? 12284"
12286 17 2019/06/25 9:58 "Cecil ? 12286"
12287 2 2019/06/25 9:25 "Cecil ? 12287"
12289 0 0000/00/00 0:00 "Cecil ? 12289"
12290 0 0000/00/00 0:00 "Cecil ? 12290"
12291 0 0000/00/00 0:00 "Cecil ? 12291"
12292 20 2019/06/21 9:08 "Cecil Schools? 12292"
12293 0 0000/00/00 0:00 "Cecil Schools? 12293"
12294 0 0000/00/00 0:00 "Cecil Schools? 12294"
12295 1 2019/06/06 12:06 "Cecil Schools? 12295"
12296 2 2019/06/06 12:06 "Cecil Schools? 12296"
12297 1 2019/06/06 12:06 "Cecil Schools? 12297"
12298 2 2019/06/06 12:07 "Cecil Schools? 12298"
12300 0 0000/00/00 0:00 "Cecil ? 12300"
12301 82 2019/07/01 8:48 "Cecil Roads 12301"
12302 6 2019/06/18 10:55 "Cecil Roads? 12302"
12303 4 2019/06/05 13:45 "Cecil Roads? 12303"
12304 3 2019/06/18 10:56 "Cecil Roads? 12304"
12305 4 2019/05/03 8:56 "Cecil Roads? 12305"
12306 3 2019/05/03 8:56 "Cecil Roads? 12306"
12307 12 2019/05/03 8:58 "Cecil Roads? 12307"
12308 17 2019/06/18 10:56 "Cecil Roads? 12308"
12309 64 2019/07/01 10:21 "Cecil Roads Admin? 12309"
12310 2 2019/05/02 15:03 "Cecil Roads? 12310"
12311 26 2019/07/01 11:35 "Cecil Roads? 12311"
12312 20 2019/06/27 16:11 "Cecil ? 12312"
12313 27 2019/06/29 18:32 "Cecil ? 12313"
12314 3 2019/06/05 20:04 "Cecil ? 12314"
12315 3 2019/06/04 15:37 "Cecil ? 12315"
12316 3 2019/06/11 16:44 "Cecil ? 12316"
12317 3 2019/06/11 16:45 "Cecil ? 12317"
12318 2 2019/06/11 16:45 "Cecil ? 12318"
12319 3 2019/06/11 16:45 "Cecil ? 12319"
12320 2 2019/06/11 16:45 "Cecil ? 12320"
12326 2 2019/06/11 16:42 "Cecil ? 12326"
12327 3 2019/06/11 16:42 "Cecil ? 12327"
12328 2 2019/06/11 16:47 "Cecil ? 12328"
12329 4 2019/06/11 16:42 "Cecil ? 12329"
12330 5 2019/06/11 16:42 "Cecil ? 12330"
12331 12 2019/06/11 16:43 "Cecil ? 12331"
12332 4 2019/06/11 16:43 "Cecil ? 12332"
12333 5 2019/06/11 16:46 "Cecil ? 12333"
12334 32 2019/06/06 12:04 "Cecil Health Department? 12334"
12335 1 2019/06/06 12:03 "Cecil Health? 12335"
12336 0 0000/00/00 0:00 "Cecil Health? 12336"
12337 0 0000/00/00 0:00 "Cecil Health? 12337"
12339 1 2019/06/06 12:03 "Cecil Health? 12339"
12341 1 2019/06/06 12:03 "Cecil Health? 12341"
12342 1 2019/06/06 12:03 "Cecil Health? 12342"
12343 1 2019/06/06 12:03 "Cecil Health? 12343"
12346 0 0000/00/00 0:00 "Cecil ? 12346"
12347 1 2019/06/21 22:47 "Cecil ? 12347"
12349 0 0000/00/00 0:00 "Cecil ? 12349"
12350 0 0000/00/00 0:00 "Cecil ? 12350"
12352 5 2019/06/21 11:55 "Cecil ? 12352"
12360 2389 2019/07/01 11:38 "Cecil EMS/FD Disp 12360"
12361 1 2019/05/06 17:29 "Cecil ? 12361"
12385 1 2019/06/07 18:03 "Cecil ? 12385"
12398 37133 2019/07/01 11:34 "Cecil Towns PD 12398 Enc"
12399 76860 2019/07/01 11:43 "Cecil Sheriff 12399 Enc"
12400 57387 2019/07/01 11:40 "Cecil Elkton PD 12400 Enc"TG 12238 is confirmed Fire Police. Not sure if they have more than one TG or not.
TG 12312 is an "Event" Channel
Your gonna love it even more once you "personalize" that detailed screen display
Your gonna love it even more once you "personalize" that detailed screen display
I have Fire Police as 12239, and their Tac as 12216 - might want to monitor those as well to confirm their use.
Mine is at the Post Office right now. Can't wait to pick it up.TG 12312 is an "Event" Channel
Your gonna love it even more once you "personalize" that detailed screen display
You won't regret it (although your bank account might...)
I'm using DSD+ & monitoring everything Cecil from TG 12200-12400 on my SDS100 (ID search is on, & am locked on the Cecil Site), I've avoided the confirmed TG's (and all other FiRST departments) in order to record & figure out those that are not known yet. If 12239 is another Fire PD ch. I've not heard it used as such, yet. I've been performing these same steps (Pretty much non-stop) since about March (Just before the Cecil Site was changed)...
https://wiki.radioreference.com/index.php/FiRST_Unknown_Talkgroups#Cecil_County_Talkgroups
The bold TG's listed on that link are locked out..
The whole process possibly could go faster if anyone sitting with a list of TG's or a Cecil Radio's Ch lineup info would post the info publicly..
(As in, here in this thread) (Or pass the info to a DB admin anonymously)TG 12292 is busy today.. Still not sure what it is yet...
I really, really enjoy the hobby, and figuring things out.
Pushes and Shoves in the right direction are welcomed.... Don't care who gets the credit for finding them...
Just wanna go out and play, really....
12238 Fire Police
12312 Event
North East Fire Company Carnival
These 2 have been submitted (Not sure anybody else has, sorry if duplicated)
12292 sounds like the Cecil Transit Buses Pretty sure now...
12313 sounds like an additional Event TG...
12312 Event
North East Fire Company Carnival
These 2 have been submitted (Not sure anybody else has, sorry if duplicated)
12292 sounds like the Cecil Transit Buses
Pretty sure now...12313 sounds like an additional Event TG...
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12312 Event 1
12313 Event 2 (Sounds dedicated to parking/traffic tonight)
submission amended
12313 Event 2 (Sounds dedicated to parking/traffic tonight)
submission amended
boatbod
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Anyone directly associated with FiRST admin in any form is likely under an NDA so they won't be able to post. Best case someone with a fire radio can post how many channels they have programmed, but they won't know the mapping of tgid to display name.I'm using DSD+ & monitoring everything Cecil from TG 12200-12400 on my SDS100 (ID search is on, & am locked on the Cecil Site), I've avoided the confirmed TG's (and all other FiRST departments) in order to record & figure out those that are not known yet. If 12239 is another Fire PD ch. I've not heard it used as such, yet. I've been performing these same steps (Pretty much non-stop) since about March (Just before the Cecil Site was changed)...
https://wiki.radioreference.com/index.php/FiRST_Unknown_Talkgroups#Cecil_County_Talkgroups
The bold TG's listed on that link are locked out..
The whole process possibly could go faster if anyone sitting with a list of TG's or a Cecil Radio's Ch lineup info would post the info publicly..
TG 12292 is busy today.. Still not sure what it is yet...
I really, really enjoy the hobby, and figuring things out.
Don't care who gets the credit for finding them...
Just wanna go out and play, really....
I updated the RRDB this afternoon with TGs for DNR-NRP Area 3 (PG and AA Cos.) There is another set of TGs that also carry Area 3 / 3xx units: 7546, 7547, and 7548. The interesting thing is some RIDs will switch between both dispatch TGs associated with Area 3 (7501 and 7546.) Another interesting correlation is that it *seems* that the DNR Crownsville VHF site simulcasts via TG7501, while the Matapeake site simulcasts 7546, but I haven't positively confirmed this behavior yet, and I'm not sure what's happening with Solley (which I can barely receive.) I'm wondering if this is some kind of transitional setup until FIRST is completed in Zone 5, and one set of TGs will become Area 4....
Looks like this morning (and could have been happening previously,) channel grants are happening on both TG 7546 and 7501 simultaneously. UT2 does not indicate a patch for these, although other DNR TGs are patched together currently.
7501 & 7546 are definitely patched together. No idea the reason. Listening to Solley Site and both 7501 & 7546 are showing up on Unitrunker while users on Solley are talking.
I show Area 5 patched to Area 6 (7506 -> 7511) with 7506 subordinate to 7511 in the Patches console of UT2, but no patch between 7501 and 7546. It's like they are simulcasting on both TGs - I'll be looking to see if they TGs are using separate talkpaths.
EDIT:
And they are: the TGs are using different slots simultaneously.
Should I be hearing anything, downloaded into both 436 and 536 from radio reference full maryland First database, and hear nothing on both radios in Elkton.
thanks
Will
thanks
Will
Short answer is yes..
Are you just scanning FiRST or a bunch of stuff? (Try holding on the system)
Have you set the system up to just look at 1 site? (Try Site Hold on Cecil Site)
In other words.. If the scanner(s) is/are looking for control ch.'s from all the FiRST sites, It will take a long time to rotate through the list, and all the while you'd be missing stuff only on the Cecil Site (And also Cecilton, Conowingo ASR's and Harford, Kent Sites to a lesser degree..)
I'd ensure all sites are avoided except 3.14 Cecil from your location in Elkton.. (At least to experiment)
You'd likely improve chances more as well if you hold on the Cecil Department, There are a lot of other users on FiRST and the radio can hang up on MSP, SHA, NRP, MTA ect.. TG's instead of the Cecil traffic your wanting to hear..
From your location in Elkton you should be hearing traffic...
I'd try those things. Hope you get those radios talking..
