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I looked and only saw 1 helicopter anywhere close to that are and it wasn't military. Here's the link for the search.

I will give it a go.......check out the two airliners arrowed
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they jockey back and forth along the same route at different altitudes but are different size aircraft (close but not too close)
They cross from SE to NW in that time period and would appear from the ground to be flying in formation.
TIME STAMP FOR PICTURE IS

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and then the helicopter
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Everything occurred between 15:45 PM and 16:15PM basically on the 14th
 

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PA video of unusual objects in flight.

Found this link. Includes video link of objects and a helicopter flying nearby.



Hmm, I should take crappy videos of airliners at high altitude and sell exclusive rights of them to the news. :unsure:
 

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Hmm, I should take crappy videos of airliners at high altitude and sell exclusive rights of them to the news. :unsure:
There you go......apparently based on just watching the replay of the air traffic - that is a regular route and they probably have seen other aircraft on it but just did not pay attention. Now two different sized aircraft at different altitudes can make things interesting for the unaware ground observer.
 

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2040 local Rare hit weak voice coms on 266.400 on Ron's list as McGuire interplane freq..
Was in my scanner rotation but haven't logged that one in years.

I didn't even realize that the old Willow Grove NAS base is now called Biddle ANG base
home to the 111th ATKW. Doesn't look very busy though with aircraft.. Wastewater treatment plant is good :)
 
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Around this time was a Italian B767T Tanker IAM1431 (33FE7D) that departed Pease and went all the way to Arizona.
at FL270. I figured was taking some F-35's to train out there..

You beat me Yow! Yeah saw that earlier today and took me a while to track down flight number.
Nice catch NYAirOne on that F-35 A/A 232.975 too :)
Got lucky on that one. Just happened to have 225.000-245.000 running on my search radio last few weeks lol.
 

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VINYL 69 (KC-10 86-0028)
341.750 AR- 03:33pm. I can't hear who he's talking to. Gave time to the I.P. ?? @ 03:39pm. East bound.

BLUES 75 (C-17A 03-3116)
349.400 Alpena Ops, calling multiple times, 03:49pm. Came from MacDill, 2nd trip today.

Chuck in Detroit / NODAK 1

Vinyl 69 was calling Nova 24 about IP meet up.
 

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There you go......apparently based on just watching the replay of the air traffic - that is a regular route and they probably have seen other aircraft on it but just did not pay attention. Now two different sized aircraft at different altitudes can make things interesting for the unaware ground observer.
I can assure you that two different sized aircraft at the SAME altitude can get real interesting real fast, too, especially if you’re in one of them. Even in controlled airspace.
 

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2040 local Rare hit weak voice coms on 266.400 on Ron's list as McGuire interplane freq..
Was in my scanner rotation but haven't logged that one in years.

I didn't even realize that the old Willow Grove NAS base is now called Biddle ANG base
home to the 111th ATKW. Doesn't look very busy though with aircraft.. Wastewater treatment plant is good :)
Mark

According to Wikipedia they have MQ-9 drones there. Haven't seen any drone acty out of there lately.
 

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I will give it a go.......check out the two airliners arrowed
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they jockey back and forth along the same route at different altitudes but are different size aircraft (close but not too close)
They cross from SE to NW in that time period and would appear from the ground to be flying in formation.
TIME STAMP FOR PICTURE IS

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and then the helicopter
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Everything occurred between 15:45 PM and 16:15PM basically on the 14th

Great work!
 

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RCH-62 KC-135 #58-0010 off McGuire to Anchorage.. Some snow up there so rotating runways.

ES:AE0499 GES:02 2 .80010S /ATSMCXA.TI2/PANC ARR ATIS M
1453Z ANC ATIS INFO M 1453Z.
APPROACHES IN USE.. LNDG AND DEPG RWY 7L, 33,LANDING RWY 7R, 7L,DEPARTING RWY 7L, 33.
NOTAMS... AD WIP SNOW
REMOVAL ALL RWYS ALTERNATELY CLSD..
CONTACT TOWER 118.3 FOR START UP AND TAXI. RWY
7R 5 5 5 0912Z, RWY 7L 5 5 5 0916Z, RWY 33 5 5 5
0916Z. ...ADVS YOU HAVE INFO M.B6E0
 

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Looks like they're just following airway V374.

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At the airliner's altitude more likely a High Altitude Jet Route or as in these two cases one of the new Q routes replacing the J routes.

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DAL 985 GAYEL Q818 WOZEE DERLO HAVOK BOSEP KATNO HOCKE MCW J148 ONL SNY RLG JNC TBC TENTS BRUSR1
SWK3933 GAYEL Q818 WOZEE NOSIK ZOHAN CEWDA MUSCL3
Q route information attached here - the real PDF is larger but I removed non-relevant pages for the discussion (PLUS SO IT WOULD FIT !!)

Terry
 

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VIP Movement Summary (does not include POTUS, VPOTUS, FLOTUS travel)

DATE: 16 Feb

SAM 283 (C-37 # 20-1941) Houston-ADW-Charleston AFB SC
SAM 074 (C-32 # 99-0004) ADW-Munich GE
SAM 120 (C-32 # 99-0003) Atlanta GA-ADW
SAM 264 (C-37 # 18-1942) ADW-Ramstein GE
SAM 311 (C-40 # 01-0015) Houston-Charleston AFB SC-ADW
SAM 213 (C-37 # 97-0400) Scott AFB IL-ADW
 
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