Mid-Atlantic MilAir 2024

[mdmonitor]

CAP situation gonna change soon. In January, they'll either be In California or Bedminster NJ/Florida

 

[john8436]

1243 Local: Pack62 in AR80 nothing showing on ADSb wonder who they are refueling ??

3 - 142nd AS C130's doing drops at Bollen Range, 233.4500

 

[wickedjane]

O/T: confirmed by a credible source LIVID flt (LIVID 11 & LIVID 12) was a 2-ship flight of B-52H bombers from Minot AFB to Al Udeid AB for their 6 month combat deployment/rotation. The other 4 Minot BUFF's should follow soon.

 

[mdmonitor]

OT. For those interested in HF comms. This was posted on another list and has some good info


For those shortwave radio listeners and radio hobbyists that enjoy listening to HF aeronautical stations, below is a short list of ARINC URLs/web pages I have sometimes used that contain various charts and maps with details on some of their HF frequencies. Hope these sites help you pursue your radio listening hobby.

ARINC Pacific HF Frequency Assignments
Atlantic HF Assignments

ARINC Pacific HF Frequency Assignments
Pacific HF Assignments

ARINC Pacific HF/VHF Voice Coverage Jeppesen MAP. Version 3 April 2020 (ARINC Map ID: ARINC-4)
https://radio.arinc.net/static/data/ARINC HF-VHF Voice Coverage Pacific.pdf

ARINC Atlantic/Carribean HF/VHF Voice Coverage Jeppesen MAP. Version 3 April 2020 (ARINC Map ID: ARINC-3)
https://radio.arinc.net/static/data/ARINC HF-VHF Voice Coverage Atlantic-Carribean.pdf

ARINC HF LDOC Coverage Jeppesen Map Americas Area. Version 25 May 12 (ARINC MAP ID: ARINC-9)
https://radio.arinc.net/static/data/ARINC-9 HF LDOC Coverage - Americas Area.pdf

ARINC HF LDOC Coverage Jeppesen Map Asia Area Version 11 June 10 (ARINC MAP ID: ARINC-7)
https://radio.arinc.net/static/data/ARINC-7 HF LDOC Coverage - Asia Area.pdf

ARINC Voice Services Operating Procedures Handbook. Version July 20, 2024
https://radio.arinc.net/static/data/AVS Operating Procedures Handbook.pdf

 

[jetcrafter]

1243 Local: Pack62 in AR80 nothing showing on ADSb wonder who they are refueling ??

3 - 142nd AS C130's doing drops at Bollen Range, 233.4500

It was just PACK 61 & 62 training on 373.600 they're inbound to land now. 1347 EDT Local.

 

[jetcrafter]

1350 EDT Local

I have a friend on MAINE 92 that just took off from Barnes (KBAF) heading down to NJ to refuel some F-16s.

ADS-B Exchange - track aircraft live

ADS-B Exchange - track aircraft live - aircraft flight history

globe.adsbexchange.com

May be some comms for you guys to snag.

Update - A friend in PA just heard DEVIL 11 flight of two A-A 298.600 and on Giantkiller 255.000

 

[jetcrafter]

1352 EDT Local

Currently have ANGEL 41 flight of two F-35s that took off from Pease to work in Yankee Laser ATCAA. Sounds like VT birds. Freqs used so far:
269.400 Pease Departure
263.050 ZBW
349.700 158th FW A-A
238.250 Yankee MOA coordinate freq
234.800 158th FW A-A

Should be RTB soon as they are not meeting any tankers.

 

[Mark]

1350 EDT Local

I have a friend on MAINE 92 that just took off from Barnes (KBAF) heading down to NJ to refuel some F-16s.

ADS-B Exchange - track aircraft live

ADS-B Exchange - track aircraft live - aircraft flight history

globe.adsbexchange.com

May be some comms for you guys to snag.

Some Devil NJ F-16's up for W-107 A/A 298.600 and 294.725

 

[mdmonitor]

1650- Nighthawk 30 (MV-22 # 168701) on way back to Quantico from Philly. Working Potomac (119.7),

 

[frank3si]

Air Force One/C-32 09-0017 decelerating after landing on runway 14/32 at KILG at 3:59pm EDT. Late afternoon sun on last day of Daylight Savings Time. This was not the flight path I expected so not such a good day photographing this trip at either end. And today's CAP yielded no fighters, just the 46 tanker. Tomorrow's another day

 

[frank3si]

CAP situation gonna change soon. In January, they'll either be In California or Bedminster NJ/Florida

I'm all too aware of this fact - trying to make the most of it and the Air Force One activity here in New Castle while I can. It's been a fun four years but I know the end is near. I'll be getting some spare time back, so there's that

 

[mdmonitor]

I'm all too aware of this fact - trying to make the most of it and the Air Force One activity here in New Castle while I can. It's been a fun four years but I know the end is near. I'll be getting some spare time back, so there's that

I'm gonna miss all the great pics you DE/NJ guys took. Made me V E R Y jealous

 

[Mark]

I'm gonna miss all the great pics you DE/NJ guys took. Made me V E R Y jealous

Yeah second that motion.. great pics guys the last couple years or so..
Guess we will get occasional Camp David CAPs either way but way out there so not always a good copy here.

Seems in addition to the Buffs Middle East deployment another BTF deployment to Europe coming up soon.
Maybe some B-1's or B-2's for a change.. The old Buffs doing all the Stratcom eastbound work this year.
Probably will deploy as usual to RAF Fairford.
Disappointed in B-1 and B-2 ops this year. They hang around their own bases mostly and do local sorties at best
except for B-2 Australia deployment. Seems like they are always having problems with them
They better hurry up those new B-21's.. LOL

U.S. aircraft slated to deploy to Europe for latest bomber task force

The next Bomber Task Force-Europe deployment is scheduled to begin in the coming days with U.S. strategic bombers transiting from the continental U.S. to the U.S. European Command area of

www.stratcom.mil

 

[Dutchmil]

The 159th FW F-15s arrived this evening at Natal airbase [SBNT] in Brazil as SKYCAM 11 flight.
RCH058 (60-0313) dropped them off at PUDLA and then returned to Henry E. Rohlsen Airport [TISX].
Comms with Recife center: SKYCAM 11 - 2 November 2024

Flying time from Louisiana just over 8 hours, this was their routing:

 

[Mark]

The 159th FW F-15s arrived this evening at Natal airbase [SBNT] in Brazil as SKYCAM 11 flight.
RCH058 (60-0313) dropped them off at PUDLA and then returned to Henry E. Rohlsen Airport [TISX].
Comms with Recife center: SKYCAM 11 - 2 November 2024

Flying time from Louisiana just over 8 hours, this was their routing:

Nice tracking Rene..
What happened to their good old Jazz callsign? Skycam? Your right Rene..sounds like a local TV news helicopter callsign.
I bet the Jazz guys were not happy with that callsign.. 😜 .. Maybe Brazil really didn't want them anyway.
They probably wanted F-35's etc and got old F-15c models for their show.

 

[wickedjane]

Yeah second that motion.. great pics guys the last couple years or so..
Guess we will get occasional Camp David CAPs either way but way out there so not always a good copy here.

Seems in addition to the Buffs Middle East deployment another BTF deployment to Europe coming up soon.
Maybe some B-1's or B-2's for a change.. The old Buffs doing all the Stratcom eastbound work this year.
Probably will deploy as usual to RAF Fairford.
Disappointed in B-1 and B-2 ops this year. They hang around their own bases mostly and do local sorties at best
except for B-2 Australia deployment. Seems like they are always having problems with them
They better hurry up those new B-21's.. LOL

U.S. aircraft slated to deploy to Europe for latest bomber task force

The next Bomber Task Force-Europe deployment is scheduled to begin in the coming days with U.S. strategic bombers transiting from the continental U.S. to the U.S. European Command area of

www.stratcom.mil

CENTCOM released a statement that the first B-52's assigned to the 5th BW landed in the CENTCOM AOR. There was also a picture from one of the two B-52's attached under the post. The BUFF had a fresh paint.


Mark You are right, but that is sadly because the B-1's presence over the middle east is limited due to the GWOT time it has spent in the middle east, for almost 2 decades. The dust and heat is everything else than friendly to the aircraft skin and it's sensitive matetial components and parts. The fatigue caused to the BONE's was a big deal, almost the entire BONE fleet got "baked" (95% of the B-1's, yep almost every B-1, took part in the GWOT, from late 2001 to early 2019). Because of the complexity of the BONE the overhaul maintenance was not that much effective to solve the fatigue problems. Air Force decided to create a "digital twin" to, at least, reduce the fatigue and better understand the B-1 itself. Almost every BONE had problems with fatigue. Some had more than others because they were not rotated due to ops tempo in the CENTCOM AOR, so they had to endure extreme temperatures, dust and corrosion caused on their components and parts, particularly for over a year. The peak of the whole event appeared when BONE's were tasked with 2 Operations in 2014 with OIR and OEF/OFS. The B-1' were pulled back for maintenance overhaul and the new IBS upgrade. Just imagine a fully loaded B-1 BONE with 16 GBU-31's and 8 GBU-38's being for hours in the sky and also doing CAS for the most of the flighttime. Sortie durations were often around the 10 hour mark. That has to be very heavy for the wings and engines for sure.


The B-2 Spirit is a Global Strike thing so there is not much to add.

 

[Mark]

CENTCOM released a statement that the first B-52's assigned to the 5th BW landed in the CENTCOM AOR. There was also a picture from one of the two B-52's attached under the post. The BUFF had a fresh paint.


Mark You are right, but that is sadly because the B-1's presence over the middle east is limited due to the GWOT time it has spent in the middle east, for almost 2 decades. The dust and heat is everything else than friendly to the aircraft skin and it's sensitive matetial components and parts. The fatigue caused to the BONE's was a big deal, almost the entire BONE fleet got "baked" (95% of the B-1's, yep almost every B-1, took part in the GWOT, from late 2001 to early 2019). Because of the complexity of the BONE the overhaul maintenance was not that much effective to solve the fatigue problems. Air Force decided to create a "digital twin" to, at least, reduce the fatigue and better understand the B-1 itself. Almost every BONE had problems with fatigue. Some had more than others because they were not rotated due to ops tempo in the CENTCOM AOR, so they had to endure extreme temperatures, dust and corrosion caused on their components and parts, particularly for over a year. The peak of the whole event appeared when BONE's were tasked with 2 Operations in 2014 with OIR and OEF/OFS. The B-1' were pulled back for maintenance overhaul and the new IBS upgrade. Just imagine a fully loaded B-1 BONE with 16 GBU-31's and 8 GBU-38's being for hours in the sky and also doing CAS for the most of the flighttime. Sortie durations were often around the 10 hour mark. That has to be very heavy for the wings and engines for sure.


The B-2 Spirit is a Global Strike thing so there is not much to add.

I'm sure B-1's can handle RAF Fairford wx. USAF in a hurry to get rid of them anyway just like the A-10's.
They sure are banking on the B-21 not to have major problems but all newly designed aircraft have serious teething problems
and they keep falling behind like the F-35.. Things that make you say Hmm. .. No nuke loads on B-1's anyway since 2007 so maybe B-2's hopefully? Keep an eye on Whiteman cargo C-17's

 

[wickedjane]

I'm sure B-1's can handle RAF Fairford wx. USAF in a hurry to get rid of them anyway just like the A-10's.
They sure are banking on the B-21 not to have major problems but all newly designed aircraft have teething problems
and they keep falling behind like the F-35.. Things that make you say Hmm. .. No nuke loads on B-1's anyway so maybe B-2's?

BONE wx @ RAF Fairford won't be a problem.

I do think the USAF wants to keep the majority of different aircraft, but there has to be a lot of evaluating and testing on the airframes. It is also important that the ongoing world situation is more or less unclear and it is better to have the right aircraft for the right mission sets at any given time and space.

Over the years a lot of procedures and tactics were implemented and evolved, made the ops so efficient, that even certain aircraft types were not needed anymore to fullfill the mission tasks.

B-1's were added to the Global Strike Command in 2015. Ready to strike anytime anywhere with a massive firepower of conventional bombs. A three ship flt of B-1's is equivalent to a B-29 Squadron. Depending on the loadout config. that would pretty much make up the energy of a lower class nuclear bomb. B-2 is you know, when everything fails, the boys and gals are clear to go.

There are not only bombers, submarines and ICBM's are also with the Global Strike Command. And equivalent to a 6 ship flt of BONE's would be an aircraft carrier from the USN. An attack orchestrated from 3 Super Hornet squadrons would be absolutely horiffic in terms of destruction, BDA imagery would show the aftermath, the size of a town to a little city, completly wiped out. Sounds brutal, it is, but this showcases that none of us should be worried about firepower, because there is more than enough (a physics teacher showcased us the whole thing on his own developed simulation software he built, got his doctors degree too).


And the F-35 will do ok, the time just has not come yet


Hahahaha, that would be on the top of my list, will do sir!

 

[Mark]

SKATER-31 #20-46082 departing McGuire headed due North FL-280.
No Res on AR-62E but sure seems headed that way..
SKATR-33 showing on Acars #15-46070 also on East Coast shows waypoint RIFLE in log.
Returning tanker from yesterday most likely.

 

[Mark]

SKATER-31 #20-46082 departing McGuire headed due North FL-280.
No Res on AR-62E but sure seems headed that way..
SKATR-33 showing on Acars #15-46070 also on East Coast shows waypoint RIFLE in log.
Returning tanker from yesterday most likely.

2210 local SKATR-31 on Montreal Ctr says SKATR-32 will not be joining us tonight.
Sounds like a tanker got cancelled.
2218 SKATR-31 req direst SOCAN next..
2233 local SKATR-31 does freq switch from direction of Mtl Ctr and second plane counts off.
There are two tankers..

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