Monroe/Ontario County Project 25 Phase II ?

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There was a Towns East in a legacy system but not in the TRS. There is a East Admin and Tac but those are not dispatch groups.
What scanner do you have? There is always the option of search TG ID's, but as stated above TG 2421 should be correct.

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I found another new talk group yesterday, Brockport Fire conducted a drill on TG1524, My guess it's their secondary channel.
I also had 3 hits on TG1515, Spencerport units but not any real audio just muffled noise.
 

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It sounds like Police and Fire departments each got their own "private" secondary TGs that may be only in their own radios. These are going to be difficult to identify since activity will be sporadic and probably only heard on their area site. It is unlikely for a unit to be affiliated with the TG unless involved in activity in their home area.

You are hearing the west side departments on Monroe West and I am hearing the east side departments on Monroe east.
 

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They pretty much had their own on the old analog system ,pretty much still do,so I wonder if the are simulcasting the vhf fire channels?
 

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I listened to a conversation on TG1894 RIT Ambulance and they said the VHF input to the TRS from Fire #3,4,5 would be turned off on Sept. 2.
(They didn't mention the year though;)) I will believe this when it happens.
 

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I listened to a conversation on TG1894 RIT Ambulance and they said the VHF input to the TRS from Fire #3,4,5 would be turned off on Sept. 2.
(They didn't mention the year though;)) I will believe this when it happens.
I still hear the dispatcher directing many units to respond on Channel 3 or 4 instead of Ops 6 or 8 which suggests there are still a lot of VHF only units out there. I assume 100% conversion to the TRS would be a prerequisite to turning down the patch.

Setting a date for the shutdown may be an incentive to complete the conversion. I agree that I will believe it when actually happens.
 

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I still hear the dispatcher directing many units to respond on Channel 3 or 4 instead of Ops 6 or 8 which suggests there are still a lot of VHF only units out there. I assume 100% conversion to the TRS would be a prerequisite to turning down the patch.

Setting a date for the shutdown may be an incentive to complete the conversion. I agree that I will believe it when actually happens.
They also mentioned that trunked 3,4,5 would still be used for minor calls and anything larger would be on Ops channel.
Eventually these channels should go away, I'm not sure what they plan on using for paging any idea?
 

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I have not heard anything official but there has been some mention of the "Bryx" system. https://bryx.com/products/
This may relate to the post about RFD contracting for a new station alert system. The "Bryx 911" mobile alerting seems to be smartphone based.
All this may be related to a new 911 CAD system that was supposed to be a prerequisite for implementation of the move of Fire off of VHF.

I don't presently have contact with any official sources to confirm what is going on now.
 

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I had heard of Bryx, CHS is using it and I believe Monroe as well. I tried looking it up before but had no idea how to spell it.
I see many of the testimonials are from local departments, unfortunately if they use this they might not need to dispatch over the air.
 

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Couple items reading this thread:

- Starting 8/3; For the fire service, all non-structure fires are being dispatched on Ops 6-9. Any structure fire remains on VHF 3 or 4.
- VHF will remain patched
- Complete transition is based on how August goes and troubleshooting some vehicle repeater issues. The target is Sept, but depends on those items mentioned.
- RFD will remain as is (VHF Fire 1 and 2) as they purchase, program and train on new radios for the new system.
- RFD has selected Bryx as the station alerting solution that will replace the older MDC alert radios
- New CAD is still in development. Testing likely 4th quarter, the transition to new CAD likely early 2021.
- Fire 5 will remain for the foreseeable future for County station alerting. (2-Tone)
- 900Mhz digital paging is something being reviewed as most responders have gone to a 3rd party app. (Bryx, Active911, Iamrepsonding.)
- Each agency has their own talkgroup. (Police, Fire and EMS) Some with more than 1.
 

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The mysterious TG 1811 that seems to be used for some sort of training is active now patched to TG 1076 (Fire 5) with Patch ID 50579
 

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So next question would be or I have,is law going to the new system in September also? (if that happens)
 

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Upon further review - I have changed my prior submission for TG 2221 from Towns North to Webster PD Tac. I have added TG 2219, Irondequoit PD Tac. It appears that TGs 2213-2226 are assigned to individual departments for secondary use which may be Talk/Tac. Since these TGs are used only intermittently, and within the confines of the individual department, they are likely to be heard only on either Monroe East or West, depending on the department, and not system-wide.
 

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That was Hilton FD testing the system for dead spots along the lake shore and in the village (also on test 5), the results sounded positive.
Ogden Special Police were on 2225, the OPD secondary channel. Chili FD had a drill on 1604.
 

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TG 1811 is fire ops 5 Dispatch
As I said in a previous post TG 1811 is now on a patch (50579) to TG 1076 which is a permanent link to VHF Fire 5.
Is TG 1811 going to be a permanent Ops 5 to replace the VHF link?

The Fire and EMS countywide TGs 1072-1076 and 1806-1808 all now seem to have reverted to FDMA but individual department TGs are still P2 TDMA.
 
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As I said in a previous post TG 1811 is now on a patch (50579) to TG 1076 which is a permanent link to VHF Fire 5.
Is TG 1811 going to be a permanent Ops 5 to replace the VHF link?

The Fire and EMS countywide TGs 1072-1076 and 1806-1808 all now seem to have reverted to FDMA but individual department TGs are still P2 TDMA.
Strange as it seems my HP2 agrees with this (50579) but my 436HP and SDS100,200 all show this link as 50560. I have all 4 programmed exactly the same, I need to watch this closer.
 

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Strange as it seems my HP2 agrees with this (50579) but my 436HP and SDS100,200 all show this link as 50560. I have all 4 programmed exactly the same, I need to watch this closer.
DSD+ shows 50579. There seems to be a discrepancy between DSD+ and Uniden on how they report system parameters for various digital modes. I see the same as you on my SDS100. I tend to use DSD+ when reporting system data since recent Uniden firmware seems to be inconsistent.
 
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