So I'm looking for new scanner. I've had 325p2 and it receives Ontario County just fine,however Monroe not so good. will the reception improve once they completely change over to the Harris system or will it always be simulcast thus the problems detecting with 325p2? Thanks
Monroe/Ontario County Project 25 Phase II ?
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Who exactly is "they"? The system is the same as it has always been, and always will be, regardless of who "changes over" to it. If you want to ensure the best reception of any of the simulcast cells, get a scanner or receiver that is designed for simulcast reception. SDS100/200, Unication G series, etc.
Something odd going on with the Monroe County Health TG1061 Covid vaccine operations - UT shows all transmissions on the TG as "E4". It appears the radios are strapped in Emergency mode. I don't think there is any dispatcher console monitoring the TG so the only function I can see would be to "beep" all other radios when a unit transmits.
Thanks for the info. The "they" I refer to,is Monroe County going completely to the Harris system.
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It will always be simulcast. Buy a G4/G5 and you'll never look back.
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7005: Confirmed to be Ontario County Sheriff TAC-5
Anyone have any info on the following?
2031: Encrypted, getting unit IDs of 2322243 and 2325170
1211: Getting unit IDs of 1002124, 1011020, and 1011527
1101: Heard 2923001 testing his mic
Anyone have any info on the following?
2031: Encrypted, getting unit IDs of 2322243 and 2325170
1211: Getting unit IDs of 1002124, 1011020, and 1011527
1101: Heard 2923001 testing his mic
I have observed a lot of hits on TG 2031 and some on TGs 2032-2034 over the last few weeks. Testing on TGs 1211-1213 has been heard intermittently over the years but no apparent regular use. A few hits on 1101 and 1102 recently. I have no info on the users.
UID of 232XXX is associated with RPD. UID's with 100XXX are associated with Monroe county, UID's with 101XXX are also county and appear to be associated with ECD.
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Makes me wonder if 2031 is the "Ops Net" RPD SWAT likes to refer to.
Getting 7001038 and 7201037 doing a stakeout on 7025. I've heard traffic on 7025 before, it's some sort of Tac, seemingly only used for apprehension.
I think Ontario county Sheriff's detectives use 7025 for stake outs and to surveil suspects.
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This thread's been dead for a while, but I thought it might be helpful to include an updated list of unknown talkgroups:
1005: Seems to be some sort of ARFF command channel (activity from 2751147)
1097: Unknown
1099: Testing heard
1165: Testing heard, seems to be an emergency channel (they kept emphasizing that the testing was a drill)
1172: Testing heard
1175: Testing heard
1189: Key ups from ECD units the same day as MCU 1 was operational for a severe storm
1190: Unknown
1193: Unknown
1194: Unknown
2020: Testing heard
2031: Encrypted channel, 232#### units logged.
2124: Encrypted channel, almost guaranteed to be a SWAT training channel, submitted once previously, but there may have been a miscommunication, should be resubmitted as a County SWAT training channel.
2125: Likely a SWAT tac.
2801: Key ups from 9979318, other radios could be heard in their vicinity that seemed to be set to channels other than Monroe County channels (transmissions did not seem to match those recorded from the P25)
3002: Testing heard around the same time as 3001 (Webster Central School District). Testing on 3001 involved representatives from WCSD security, so it's likely 3002 is for security specifically. It's unlikely to be for another school, unless other schools are getting on the P25 system.
I also have a more detailed copy of this list that includes specific RIDs, dates, and times here under "Unknown Talkgroups": Rochester Area Call Signs and Radio Codes Final
1005: Seems to be some sort of ARFF command channel (activity from 2751147)
1097: Unknown
1099: Testing heard
1165: Testing heard, seems to be an emergency channel (they kept emphasizing that the testing was a drill)
1172: Testing heard
1175: Testing heard
1189: Key ups from ECD units the same day as MCU 1 was operational for a severe storm
1190: Unknown
1193: Unknown
1194: Unknown
2020: Testing heard
2031: Encrypted channel, 232#### units logged.
2124: Encrypted channel, almost guaranteed to be a SWAT training channel, submitted once previously, but there may have been a miscommunication, should be resubmitted as a County SWAT training channel.
2125: Likely a SWAT tac.
2801: Key ups from 9979318, other radios could be heard in their vicinity that seemed to be set to channels other than Monroe County channels (transmissions did not seem to match those recorded from the P25)
3002: Testing heard around the same time as 3001 (Webster Central School District). Testing on 3001 involved representatives from WCSD security, so it's likely 3002 is for security specifically. It's unlikely to be for another school, unless other schools are getting on the P25 system.
I also have a more detailed copy of this list that includes specific RIDs, dates, and times here under "Unknown Talkgroups": Rochester Area Call Signs and Radio Codes Final
For what it may be worth, I was given this list of Monroe County Department of Public Safety TGs. I have submitted only those I have observed and the use seems to match the list. If you can confirm any of the others, please submit them.
1162 - Office of Emergency Management Primary Emergency Ops
1163 - OEM Command "
1164 - OEM Radiation Teams "
1165 - OEM to OEF Wayne County "
1166 - OEM Admin "
1167 - OEM 7 "
1168 - OEM 8 "
1169 - OEM 9 "
1170 - OEM Announcement Group "
1171 - OEM 10 "
1172 - OEM Meet Me For Police "
1175 - Crime Lab General
1176 - Crime Lab Supervisor
1181 - Public Safety Communications Primary ("Radio Center")
1182 - PSC Field Tech Working Channel
1183 - PSC Supervisors
1184 - PSC MCU 1
1185 - PSC MCU 2
1186 - PSC to OEM
1187 - PSC 7
1188 - PSC 8
1189 - PSC 9
1190 - Public Safety Response
1191 - PSC 10
1192 - Public Safety Tac East
1193 - Public Safety Tac West
1194 - Public Safety Tac County
1162 - Office of Emergency Management Primary Emergency Ops
1163 - OEM Command "
1164 - OEM Radiation Teams "
1165 - OEM to OEF Wayne County "
1166 - OEM Admin "
1167 - OEM 7 "
1168 - OEM 8 "
1169 - OEM 9 "
1170 - OEM Announcement Group "
1171 - OEM 10 "
1172 - OEM Meet Me For Police "
1175 - Crime Lab General
1176 - Crime Lab Supervisor
1181 - Public Safety Communications Primary ("Radio Center")
1182 - PSC Field Tech Working Channel
1183 - PSC Supervisors
1184 - PSC MCU 1
1185 - PSC MCU 2
1186 - PSC to OEM
1187 - PSC 7
1188 - PSC 8
1189 - PSC 9
1190 - Public Safety Response
1191 - PSC 10
1192 - Public Safety Tac East
1193 - Public Safety Tac West
1194 - Public Safety Tac County
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@k2hz Some thoughts from what I've heard:
1165: It could be OEM to OEF, but the techs were very careful to state it was a drill. It makes me think it's a channel reserved for some sort of grave emergency, of course, that doesn't prove anything one way or the other.
1189: Can likely be confirmed, several RIDs were logged (1011376, 1011020, and 1011413), they were heard testing on 1181 and 1184 during the storm, seemed to be making sure communications were intact.
I'm a little skeptical of all OEM channels, not just 1165, unless they've come into service very recently, I've heard a department I suspect to be OEM operating on Fire Bureau channels ("701" through "770" call signs heard, as well as "Car 71"). Other times they've used 1167 and 1168, which, like 1165, I highly suspect to be emergency channels (and I originally submitted them as such).
One incident of note was for a drill at vaccination sites, prior to "EOC Base" and "Field Team Leader" making it very clear that they were merely conducting a drill, everyone on the Emergency Management channels was acting like the world was ending.
It wouldn't surprise me if the channels were intended to be more general and have taken on an unofficial usage of worst case scenario, major emergency channels.
I'll look through some recordings, see if I've got anything of substance on the other ones you've mentioned.
If anyone can confirm the 2751147 RID that one may be suitable for submission.
1165: It could be OEM to OEF, but the techs were very careful to state it was a drill. It makes me think it's a channel reserved for some sort of grave emergency, of course, that doesn't prove anything one way or the other.
1189: Can likely be confirmed, several RIDs were logged (1011376, 1011020, and 1011413), they were heard testing on 1181 and 1184 during the storm, seemed to be making sure communications were intact.
I'm a little skeptical of all OEM channels, not just 1165, unless they've come into service very recently, I've heard a department I suspect to be OEM operating on Fire Bureau channels ("701" through "770" call signs heard, as well as "Car 71"). Other times they've used 1167 and 1168, which, like 1165, I highly suspect to be emergency channels (and I originally submitted them as such).
One incident of note was for a drill at vaccination sites, prior to "EOC Base" and "Field Team Leader" making it very clear that they were merely conducting a drill, everyone on the Emergency Management channels was acting like the world was ending.
It wouldn't surprise me if the channels were intended to be more general and have taken on an unofficial usage of worst case scenario, major emergency channels.
I'll look through some recordings, see if I've got anything of substance on the other ones you've mentioned.
If anyone can confirm the 2751147 RID that one may be suitable for submission.
I have found that this list is apparently several years old and seems to be based on planned TG assignments that may have since been changed or not implemented which is why I only have submitted activity I have actually observed and that matches what is on the list. The OEM assignments seem to be primarily focused on Ginna event response. Some were heard active during a scheduled Ginna exercise.
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9979318 is a ID for patched UAC audio from a conventional channel. You can see IDs in a similar format when you listen to the LE talkgroups and a unit on the UHF side transmits. The 1011XXX IDs are dispatch consoles most likely.
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@billyfromhill Dispatch consoles seem to be 1014###, I believe 1011### are radio techs.
9979318 is undoubtedly law enforcement, that much is clear (although it raises more questions than answers). Do we know if it could correspond to a particular unit? From what I can tell, the last few digits are randomized and do not correspond to any particular department or division. I've yet to see that particular RID again, not for lack of searching either.
The 28 prefix on the talkgroup is certainly interesting as well, I'm still trying to figure out what department, if any, that could correspond to.
9979318 is undoubtedly law enforcement, that much is clear (although it raises more questions than answers). Do we know if it could correspond to a particular unit? From what I can tell, the last few digits are randomized and do not correspond to any particular department or division. I've yet to see that particular RID again, not for lack of searching either.
The 28 prefix on the talkgroup is certainly interesting as well, I'm still trying to figure out what department, if any, that could correspond to.
I have #1013 listed for PD & FD consoles and also have 5 #1013 fire dispatch consoles. I believe the 9979 ID's are the VHF & UHF patches to the older systems as stated by billy above. I have 5 listings for #1011 Radio Service, Skywave Comm., Gates Fire Backup and a few MCFB units.
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So 2801 is a patch? Well, that narrows things down considerably.
Perhaps the traffic I was hearing in the background, although I couldn't make out a word of it, could have been on the HOJ channel (I wasn't paying attention to it at the time), Jail channel, or Brighton CCF channel (I've never been able to pick either up). Are the latter two active?
This doesn't give us any definitive answers, but it may tell us who was keying up on the channel.
Perhaps the traffic I was hearing in the background, although I couldn't make out a word of it, could have been on the HOJ channel (I wasn't paying attention to it at the time), Jail channel, or Brighton CCF channel (I've never been able to pick either up). Are the latter two active?
This doesn't give us any definitive answers, but it may tell us who was keying up on the channel.
I have the 27511XX and 27510XX series of ID's as airport FD units, (I do not have 2751147 specifically).
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@mc48 From what I recall, and it's been a while, there's a pattern in ARFF IDs, this one, per that pattern, is command. I haven't seen this ID again, I suspect it belongs to one of the duty captains (although they probably share portables), or the chief, and that this is a command talk channel. I might start monitoring the ARFF channel closely, see what I can find.
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