Also looks like Belleville Police and Fire departments (Essex County ) may be coming over to the system has well, There is a huge article in the Kearny Observer about it in this weeks paper. If I find it online I will post it.
New Jersey Interoperability Communication System (NJICS)
- Status
Some unidentified DOT Talkgroups:
3113
3115
3125
3617
3113
3115
3125
3617
3117 and 3131 also...
I am pretty sure that 3131 is the North Seasonal Contractors
Looks like Phase II voice channels have been added for the Bordentown site,going through the log it looks like only the NJSP REMU 3 talkgroup (2561) was using the frequencies.
FileVersion:7
-TowerInfo
#This section is here for information only. With the exception
#of the Call Sign(s), This data is not Read back into the program at all.
System ID : 39A
System Name : New Jersey Public Safety Interoperability Communications (PSIC) Network
WACN : BEE00
Tower Number (Decimal): 103
Tower Number (Hex) : T0103
Tower Description : Bordentown
Control Capabilities : Data,Voice,Registration
Call Sign(s) : CHANGEME WPTZ794
Timestamp : Thu Apr 5 12:17:16 2012
-Tables
#Format: Table ID,Base Freq,Spacing,Input Offset,Assumed/Confirmed,BandWidth,Slots
00,851.00625,0.00625,-45.00000,"Confirmed",0.00625,1
01,762.00625,0.00625,30.00000,"Confirmed",0.00625,1
02,851.01250,0.01250,-45.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
03,762.00625,0.01250,30.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
-Frequencies
#Format: Channel,Usage,Frequency(/Slot),Input Channel,Input Frequency(/Slot),Input Explicit(1/0),Hit Count
"01-1430","cvd",770.94375,"01-1430",800.94375,0,2
"01-1774","vdi",773.09375,"01-1774",803.09375,0,14281
"01-1890","cavd",773.81875,"01-1890",803.81875,0,6428
"01-1930","cavd",774.06875,"01-1930",804.06875,0,216989
"01-1974","cavd",774.34375,"01-1974",804.34375,0,5663
"03-0023","d",762.14375/1,"03-0023",792.14375/1,0,0
"03-1774","v",773.09375/0,"03-1774",803.09375/0,0,2
"03-1775","v",773.09375/1,"00-0000",851.00625/1,1,5
"03-1890","v",773.81875/0,"03-1890",803.81875/0,0,9
"03-1891","v",773.81875/1,"03-1891",803.81875/1,0,8
-Neighbors
#Format: TowerID,TowerIDHex,System ID,Channel,Frequency,Tower Name
101,"T0101",39a,"01-2044",774.78125,""
102,"T0102",39a,"01-1892",773.83125,""
104,"T0104",39a,"01-1230",769.69375,""
123,"T0117",39a,"01-1190",769.44375,""
134,"T0122",39a,"01-1810",773.31875,"Wall"
136,"T0124",39a,"01-1388",770.68125,""
FileVersion:7
-TowerInfo
#This section is here for information only. With the exception
#of the Call Sign(s), This data is not Read back into the program at all.
System ID : 39A
System Name : New Jersey Public Safety Interoperability Communications (PSIC) Network
WACN : BEE00
Tower Number (Decimal): 103
Tower Number (Hex) : T0103
Tower Description : Bordentown
Control Capabilities : Data,Voice,Registration
Call Sign(s) : CHANGEME WPTZ794
Timestamp : Thu Apr 5 12:17:16 2012
-Tables
#Format: Table ID,Base Freq,Spacing,Input Offset,Assumed/Confirmed,BandWidth,Slots
00,851.00625,0.00625,-45.00000,"Confirmed",0.00625,1
01,762.00625,0.00625,30.00000,"Confirmed",0.00625,1
02,851.01250,0.01250,-45.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
03,762.00625,0.01250,30.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
-Frequencies
#Format: Channel,Usage,Frequency(/Slot),Input Channel,Input Frequency(/Slot),Input Explicit(1/0),Hit Count
"01-1430","cvd",770.94375,"01-1430",800.94375,0,2
"01-1774","vdi",773.09375,"01-1774",803.09375,0,14281
"01-1890","cavd",773.81875,"01-1890",803.81875,0,6428
"01-1930","cavd",774.06875,"01-1930",804.06875,0,216989
"01-1974","cavd",774.34375,"01-1974",804.34375,0,5663
"03-0023","d",762.14375/1,"03-0023",792.14375/1,0,0
"03-1774","v",773.09375/0,"03-1774",803.09375/0,0,2
"03-1775","v",773.09375/1,"00-0000",851.00625/1,1,5
"03-1890","v",773.81875/0,"03-1890",803.81875/0,0,9
"03-1891","v",773.81875/1,"03-1891",803.81875/1,0,8
-Neighbors
#Format: TowerID,TowerIDHex,System ID,Channel,Frequency,Tower Name
101,"T0101",39a,"01-2044",774.78125,""
102,"T0102",39a,"01-1892",773.83125,""
104,"T0104",39a,"01-1230",769.69375,""
123,"T0117",39a,"01-1190",769.44375,""
134,"T0122",39a,"01-1810",773.31875,"Wall"
136,"T0124",39a,"01-1388",770.68125,""
They were doing some re-wiring or troubleshooting on that TG last night, maybe that was to enable the change. They were down near Trenton somewhere.
1763 is currently simulcasting Statecom 5 Central (28208)
Homeland Security wants all agencies to use PSIC
Police and Fire to get better radios
Posted On Wednesday, 04 Apr 2012 By admin. Under News
Photo by Ron Leir/ Capt. Victor Mesce displays Motorola test radio.
By Ron Leir
BELLEVILLE –
Dead zones.
For public safety employees, these are pitfalls to be avoided because it’s essential to keep the lines of communication open at all times.
Unfortunately, that’s not always possible when there are barriers to transmission signals, as township police and firefighters have discovered when attempting to talk via radio from the basement of Clara Maass Medical Center or the Middle School subbasement.
But the Belleville Police Department is taking steps to ensure constant and clear communication with help from the New Jersey Dept. of Homeland Security and Essex County.
Police Capt. Victor Mesce, the department’s training officer, said the time has come to replace the hand-held Motorola HT1000 radio units that Belleville police officers have used since 1994.
“We can’t get parts for these radios anymore because of their age,” Mesce said. “Our radios are obsolete.”
Plus, in addition to the dead zones, there’s another issue that’s driving the replacement of the existing units, Mesce said. The current communications system relies on phone lines to carry signals through several antenna relays or, in communications jargon, “repeaters,” so “if the phone lines go down, we’re done,” he said.
Because other municipal Police and Fire Departments around the state are struggling with similar predicaments – and because of the communication snafus that plagued New York’s police, fire and emergency workers during the 9/11 catastrophe – Mesce said that N.J. Homeland Security is pushing municipal public safety units to upgrade their systems.
At the same time, the Federal Communications Commission is implementing a nationwide mandate to reserve certain radio frequencies in the 700 megahertz band for government first responders to prevent interference from commercial users, effective Jan. 1, 2013.
“The future is going to be digital signals, transmitted via microwave relays,” Mesce said. “Under the PSIC (Public Safety Interoperable Communications) system that Homeland Security wants us – along with every other police and fire department in the state – to use, the state will maintain the infrastructure. There will be no phone lines but there will be minimal (telecommunications) maintenance fee.”
Belleville, which, according to Mesce, “is going to be one of the first to tie in” to the PSIC, is getting a $100,000 grant from Essex County to purchase, under state contract, as many of the new hand-held Motorola 6000 radios as possible.
“We want to assign each of our 100 officers their own individual (battery-operated) radios,” Mesce said. “We feel, this way, our officers will want to take better care of them.”
Motorola loaned the department some test radios and Mesce said they’ve worked well. “We did tests throughout the town, including from the basement of Clara Maass and the Middle School sub-basement, and everything came through crystal clear,” he said. Officers were also able to talk on the units to other law enforcement agents as far away as Berlin in Camden County.
Mesce said the department’s intent is to share the new equipment with the Fire Department.
Another advantage of the PSIC, as advertised by Homeland Security, is that it allows for “talk groups” between various first responder and law enforcement agencies, both locally and in the New York/Pennsylvania region, Mesce said. “We’ll be able to interface just by switching channels.”
Mesce said the new radios will also be equipped with a GPS application so that if an officer is injured or trapped at a fire scene or some other not easily accessible location, the officer can be traced through that feature.
The new radios will only be the first step in the process of modernizing the township’s public safety communications system, Mesce said. Next will come new patrol car radio units, new hardware for the police and fire communications centers and new units for the police mobile precinct; all contingent on funding availability, he added.
Developing the state-wide communications infrastructure won’t come cheap: The cost is expected to exceed $30 million, with most of that money coming from federal sources and some from the state Department of Transportation.
The Newark Police and Fire Departments have already begun to phase in the new system, as have the Essex County Sheriff’s Office, Elizabeth Fire Department, Montclair, Passaic and Fairfield, and the counties of Union, Monmouth, Somerset and Hunterdon, according to Mesce.
Meanwhile, there were these developments in other local police business:
Belleville is applying for a federal Community Oriented Policing Services (COPS) grant to help pay salaries and benefits for up to five new officers who must be veterans. If it gets the grant, the feds would contribute $625,000 covering three years but Belleville would have to match that with about the same amount in local funds. Police Chief Joseph Rotonda said that applicants should be notified by July whether to expect any money. Last year, only three New Jersey communities were successful, he said. Right now, Rotonda said, the department’s rank-and- file strength is “15 below” the number of officers he’s permitted to hire under township ordinance. “With the 2% (budget) cap, it’s very difficult to get back to where we’d like to be,” the chief said.
Under an ordinance introduced by the mayor and Township Council on March 13, and up for public hearing April 10, any police officers and firefighters hired after April 1 would have to be a Belleville resident and would be required to continue living in the township for at least two years after his or her appointment. Also, non-residents appointed to “classified positions” would be required to become Belleville residents within one year of their appointment, except for CFO and tax collector. Rotonda said: “We like to keep our police officers in town. It works out well. They care about (the township) more.” Currently, he said, 25% of the department’s personnel live in Belleville.
Police and Fire to get better radios
Posted On Wednesday, 04 Apr 2012 By admin. Under News
Photo by Ron Leir/ Capt. Victor Mesce displays Motorola test radio.
By Ron Leir
BELLEVILLE –
Dead zones.
For public safety employees, these are pitfalls to be avoided because it’s essential to keep the lines of communication open at all times.
Unfortunately, that’s not always possible when there are barriers to transmission signals, as township police and firefighters have discovered when attempting to talk via radio from the basement of Clara Maass Medical Center or the Middle School subbasement.
But the Belleville Police Department is taking steps to ensure constant and clear communication with help from the New Jersey Dept. of Homeland Security and Essex County.
Police Capt. Victor Mesce, the department’s training officer, said the time has come to replace the hand-held Motorola HT1000 radio units that Belleville police officers have used since 1994.
“We can’t get parts for these radios anymore because of their age,” Mesce said. “Our radios are obsolete.”
Plus, in addition to the dead zones, there’s another issue that’s driving the replacement of the existing units, Mesce said. The current communications system relies on phone lines to carry signals through several antenna relays or, in communications jargon, “repeaters,” so “if the phone lines go down, we’re done,” he said.
Because other municipal Police and Fire Departments around the state are struggling with similar predicaments – and because of the communication snafus that plagued New York’s police, fire and emergency workers during the 9/11 catastrophe – Mesce said that N.J. Homeland Security is pushing municipal public safety units to upgrade their systems.
At the same time, the Federal Communications Commission is implementing a nationwide mandate to reserve certain radio frequencies in the 700 megahertz band for government first responders to prevent interference from commercial users, effective Jan. 1, 2013.
“The future is going to be digital signals, transmitted via microwave relays,” Mesce said. “Under the PSIC (Public Safety Interoperable Communications) system that Homeland Security wants us – along with every other police and fire department in the state – to use, the state will maintain the infrastructure. There will be no phone lines but there will be minimal (telecommunications) maintenance fee.”
Belleville, which, according to Mesce, “is going to be one of the first to tie in” to the PSIC, is getting a $100,000 grant from Essex County to purchase, under state contract, as many of the new hand-held Motorola 6000 radios as possible.
“We want to assign each of our 100 officers their own individual (battery-operated) radios,” Mesce said. “We feel, this way, our officers will want to take better care of them.”
Motorola loaned the department some test radios and Mesce said they’ve worked well. “We did tests throughout the town, including from the basement of Clara Maass and the Middle School sub-basement, and everything came through crystal clear,” he said. Officers were also able to talk on the units to other law enforcement agents as far away as Berlin in Camden County.
Mesce said the department’s intent is to share the new equipment with the Fire Department.
Another advantage of the PSIC, as advertised by Homeland Security, is that it allows for “talk groups” between various first responder and law enforcement agencies, both locally and in the New York/Pennsylvania region, Mesce said. “We’ll be able to interface just by switching channels.”
Mesce said the new radios will also be equipped with a GPS application so that if an officer is injured or trapped at a fire scene or some other not easily accessible location, the officer can be traced through that feature.
The new radios will only be the first step in the process of modernizing the township’s public safety communications system, Mesce said. Next will come new patrol car radio units, new hardware for the police and fire communications centers and new units for the police mobile precinct; all contingent on funding availability, he added.
Developing the state-wide communications infrastructure won’t come cheap: The cost is expected to exceed $30 million, with most of that money coming from federal sources and some from the state Department of Transportation.
The Newark Police and Fire Departments have already begun to phase in the new system, as have the Essex County Sheriff’s Office, Elizabeth Fire Department, Montclair, Passaic and Fairfield, and the counties of Union, Monmouth, Somerset and Hunterdon, according to Mesce.
Meanwhile, there were these developments in other local police business:
Belleville is applying for a federal Community Oriented Policing Services (COPS) grant to help pay salaries and benefits for up to five new officers who must be veterans. If it gets the grant, the feds would contribute $625,000 covering three years but Belleville would have to match that with about the same amount in local funds. Police Chief Joseph Rotonda said that applicants should be notified by July whether to expect any money. Last year, only three New Jersey communities were successful, he said. Right now, Rotonda said, the department’s rank-and- file strength is “15 below” the number of officers he’s permitted to hire under township ordinance. “With the 2% (budget) cap, it’s very difficult to get back to where we’d like to be,” the chief said.
Under an ordinance introduced by the mayor and Township Council on March 13, and up for public hearing April 10, any police officers and firefighters hired after April 1 would have to be a Belleville resident and would be required to continue living in the township for at least two years after his or her appointment. Also, non-residents appointed to “classified positions” would be required to become Belleville residents within one year of their appointment, except for CFO and tax collector. Rotonda said: “We like to keep our police officers in town. It works out well. They care about (the township) more.” Currently, he said, 25% of the department’s personnel live in Belleville.
Moose
Member
Will Belleville FD be monitorable on a Uniden BC996T once they make the switch?
I've been following all the posts on this subject but still am a little confused about
who will or will not be heard. Thanks
I've been following all the posts on this subject but still am a little confused about
who will or will not be heard. Thanks
I would expect that after full roll-out, many users are going to be switching to TDMA mode (Belleville is giving their officers APX radios, which are fully capable).
The only scanner that's going to be able to receive that now is the GRE PSR-800 (and the soon to be released 900 mobile).
The only scanner that's going to be able to receive that now is the GRE PSR-800 (and the soon to be released 900 mobile).
Moose
Member
Thanks for the insight. Now I have an excuse to add another scanner to my collection.
Why is it posted in the database as Motorola X2 TDMA, but it is actually Project 25 Phase II TDMA?
Tac-1
Member
I thought the State 700mhz network was for interoperability communications so why are all of these towns looking to use it for local dispatching
Public Safety Interoperable Communications
Under the PSIC (Public Safety Interoperable Communications) system that Homeland Security wants every other police and fire department in the state – to use, the state will maintain the infrastructure. There will be no phone lines but there will be minimal (telecommunications) maintenance fee.”
Under the PSIC (Public Safety Interoperable Communications) system that Homeland Security wants every other police and fire department in the state – to use, the state will maintain the infrastructure. There will be no phone lines but there will be minimal (telecommunications) maintenance fee.”
Watch for a site for the NJ PSIC (WPTZ794) to start broadcasting from Union County within the next 3 weeks. Possibly sooner if they get to stop jumping over obstacles.
Also why is the State PSIC listed as X2-TDMA in the database? It's supposed to be just Phase II TDMA I though?
Also why is the State PSIC listed as X2-TDMA in the database? It's supposed to be just Phase II TDMA I though?
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It's listed in the database because that is exactly what the system is at the present. The state has a multitude of Phase I radios running around and until they replace ALL the radios through normal attrition, the system will remain a hybrid system; this is basically all Motorola is installing at the present time in order to allow a clear migration path for users upgrading equipment.
In other areas, where ALL of the equipment is brand new; implementing a full Phase II system is the obvious choice.
Almost all of the systems being installed throughout the Philadelphia-New Jersey area are going to be hybrid systems, whether or not they are actually using TDMA talk group; they will all be enabled for them and as upgrades take place, talkgroups will migrate to the Phase II standards.
Very systematic testing using grid locations and test messages to read back going on somewhere in Passaic County on TG 1765
Working with someone in a dispatch role that references a group or team on the dispatch side as well, and that group didn't seem to know where the testing was actually occurring even though they're responding by reading back the grid location and message. The dispatch group asked where the road teams were testing and that's when the teams on the road replied they were in Passaic County.
Documenting in the Wiki:
New Jersey Public Safety Interoperability Communications (PSIC) Network - The RadioReference Wiki
Working with someone in a dispatch role that references a group or team on the dispatch side as well, and that group didn't seem to know where the testing was actually occurring even though they're responding by reading back the grid location and message. The dispatch group asked where the road teams were testing and that's when the teams on the road replied they were in Passaic County.
Documenting in the Wiki:
New Jersey Public Safety Interoperability Communications (PSIC) Network - The RadioReference Wiki
1765 is simulcasting Statecom 6 Central (28240)
Caught the following simulcasts from 800 on 5/10 Thursday for about 3 hours at West Orange site.
1675 SouthSTAR
1677 NorthSTAR
1679 Aviation Units
2285 Troop C 3COMM South Patrol Simulcast
2287 Troop C 4COMM Central Patrol Simulcast
3329 Troop C 1COMM Turnpike Central Simulcast
3331 Troop C 3COMM Turnpike North Simulcast
1675 SouthSTAR
1677 NorthSTAR
1679 Aviation Units
2285 Troop C 3COMM South Patrol Simulcast
2287 Troop C 4COMM Central Patrol Simulcast
3329 Troop C 1COMM Turnpike Central Simulcast
3331 Troop C 3COMM Turnpike North Simulcast
This is very interesting. I Have both the 800, and 700 talkgroups mapped out on spreadsheets. B2-5 was reported on 2237 a while back. If I cut and paste from the 800 spreadsheet to the 700, all the talkgroups match up.
B2-5 5 Comm South 2237
B2-6 Meadowlands 2239
B2-7 Ops 2241
B2-8 Command Post 2243
B2-9 Interagency 2245
B2-10 Marine 2247
2249
B2-12 Unassigned 2251
B2-13 DRJT Bridges Patrols 2253
2255
TROOP B FLEETWIDE 2257
2259
2261
2263
B2-20 Detective Dispatch 2265
B2-21 CIB 2267
B2-22 CIB 2269
B2-23 CIB 2271
B2-24 CIB 2273
B2-26 DYFS/Human Svcs Police North 2275
2277
TROOP C FLEETWIDE 2279
C3-1 Division - Troop C 2281
C3-2 2 Comm Headquarters 2283
C3-3 3 Comm South 2285
C3-4 4 Comm Central 2287
C3-5 5 Comm North 2289
C3-6 2291
C3-7 Ops 2293
C3-8 Command Post 2295
C3-9 Ops 2297
C3-10 10 Comm Marine Central 2299
C3-13 DRJTB Patrols 2301
C3-12 Statehouse Security 2303
B2-5 5 Comm South 2237
B2-6 Meadowlands 2239
B2-7 Ops 2241
B2-8 Command Post 2243
B2-9 Interagency 2245
B2-10 Marine 2247
2249
B2-12 Unassigned 2251
B2-13 DRJT Bridges Patrols 2253
2255
TROOP B FLEETWIDE 2257
2259
2261
2263
B2-20 Detective Dispatch 2265
B2-21 CIB 2267
B2-22 CIB 2269
B2-23 CIB 2271
B2-24 CIB 2273
B2-26 DYFS/Human Svcs Police North 2275
2277
TROOP C FLEETWIDE 2279
C3-1 Division - Troop C 2281
C3-2 2 Comm Headquarters 2283
C3-3 3 Comm South 2285
C3-4 4 Comm Central 2287
C3-5 5 Comm North 2289
C3-6 2291
C3-7 Ops 2293
C3-8 Command Post 2295
C3-9 Ops 2297
C3-10 10 Comm Marine Central 2299
C3-13 DRJTB Patrols 2301
C3-12 Statehouse Security 2303
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