TwoToneDetect New TwoToneDetect in the works - Python based

[Westernbound]

Admin Messages

How is it that you are sending an 'Admin Message' to the various departments? That would be nice to be able to do on my end.

It is included as part of the TTD program, in version 68 run TonesEditor8b.exe, choose your tone set and the admin message area is there below where you add numbers.

 

[aaknitt]

Andy,

I am currently running TTD for 4 fire departments and 2 EMS departments. All 6 department are contained in 1 tones.cfg file which I have remotely hosted. Fire chiefs and directors can log into their departments tones and add or remove members. The fire chiefs or EMS directors can call me at anytime and ask for an Admin message to be sent to their department so I keep TTD on my laptop so I can send a message from anywhere. But for me to send a message for them I have to run TwoToneDetect68.exe so the program will pull the updated remote tones file. Since I do not have anything plugged into the audio port I have to click my way through several error message before the program closes. Then I can run the TonesEditor8b.exe and send the Admin message.

How hard would it be in a future update to make it so that when you run the TonesEditor, that it would also pull the remotely hosted tones file?

Marvin

I'll put it on the to do list for the next release. I'm a little cautious because it may cause some confusion if users think that it allows them to edit the remotely hosted file, when in reality you'd still have to manually upload it to wherever it's hosted.

Andy

 

[ryolsen8]

It is included as part of the TTD program, in version 68 run TonesEditor8b.exe, choose your tone set and the admin message area is there below where you add numbers.

Hmm... This has always been a desire to send Admin Messages. Sweet! I will have to download the newest version.

 

[Westernbound]

Admin Messages

I'll put it on the to do list for the next release. I'm a little cautious because it may cause some confusion if users think that it allows them to edit the remotely hosted file, when in reality you'd still have to manually upload it to wherever it's hosted.

Andy

Instead of it being part of the Tones Editor, how about a separate file like AdminMessage.exe. You could run it and bring up a message send box after it pulls the remote config. You could then put a check by the name of each of the tone sets you want to message, type your message and send. Would something like that be less confusing and better?

Marvin

 

[wscott]

Is there anyway to get the admin message to work from a smartphone rather than having to be at a pc? I have TTD running from Dropbox but my phone does not recognize the tones editor file and will not open.


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[ryolsen8]

Is there anyway to get the admin message to work from a smartphone rather than having to be at a pc? I have TTD running from Dropbox but my phone does not recognize the tones editor file and will not open.


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Now, that would be awesome. I have my iPhone handy more often (and an internet connection) rather than my Windows PC.

 

[cmdcomm]

Intel Compute Stick or Meegopad

Has anyone tried the Intel Compute Stick or Meegopad to run TTD? The Meegopad has an audio jack where as you have to use a usb audio stick on the Intel. For $84 w/ Windows 10 installed, this looks like a perfect solution for this application. Half the size of an iPhone.

 

[northernsummit]

Has anyone tried the Intel Compute Stick or Meegopad to run TTD? The Meegopad has an audio jack where as you have to use a usb audio stick on the Intel. For $84 w/ Windows 10 installed, this looks like a perfect solution for this application. Half the size of an iPhone.

Am I missing something? You can pick up a Raspberry Pi for $35 and a plethora of USB sound card dongles for around $1 a piece. I have a single pi with 3 dongles hanging off it decoding three different scanners, one of them simultaneously providing a Broadcastify stream for half the cost?

Why pay $80+ for a single audio port and Windows 10 for a purpose that requires no actual GUI? Seems a bit excessive an unnecessary.

 

[cmdcomm]

B/C Windows is the way of the world and you don't have to reinvent the wheel and spend countless hours configuring and problem solving on a pi. For $50 difference, it isn't worth spending 1 min of time with a pi.

 

[northernsummit]

B/C Windows is the way of the world and you don't have to reinvent the wheel and spend countless hours configuring and problem solving on a pi. For $50 difference, it isn't worth spending 1 min of time with a pi.

I had mine up and running in an evening without issue. The only reason I've kept messing with it is because once I realized how easy it was I kept adding more radios to the thing. Just because you don't have an understanding of the linux command line doesn't mean Windows is "the way of the world" by any stretch of the imagination. The vast majority of electronic appliances today run some flavor of Linux and you don't even realize it

 

[johnsonmitc]

I setup twotonedetect v65 about a year and a half ago on an old windows xp computer. This computer isn't used for anything other than receiving the radio input, using twotonedetect to record the page and then send emails/texts. I am using this one computer to send a page for our fire dept, and using the same computer to send a page for our first responders. These are setup on the same twotonedetect software, just using different tones... Other than restarting the computer about once a month or so, everything has worked great.
Over the last two weeks, I have been starting to see some major delays. This last week, our first responders got a page at 8:34a.m. I received the first responders text only message at 8:34a.m., I then received the text with mms at 8:35, which is all typical times. At 8:41, the fire dept got a page. I didn't receive the mms until 11:08 a.m. I didn't receive the text only message until 3:10p.m. The text only message always comes before the mms, but for some reason that was a lot longer as well. I checked my page to my email address, and that came right away. Is there any explanations for the large delays that I have recently started seeing?

I reviewed my gmail account, and it looks like all emails were "sent" at the proper times. For some reason, we just didn't receive them on our phones for many hours later. I know the disclaimer states that delays can happen, which I understand, I am just trying to understand the reasons why, because it never use to happen. In our area we have a lot of users on US Cellular and Verizon, and they have both been experiencing major delays recently.

I am looking for anything to help point me in the correct direction. Is there something wrong with my computer, should I update to the newer version of twotonedetect, is there a problem with using gmail, is there a problem when the system has multiple pages to the fire dept and first responders about the same time, and how the system works, etc.... I was just told today that we changed our internet providers around the same time as well from Centurylink to Charter.... Is this an option on why we are seeing the delays?

Any help is greatly appreciated!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks
Mitch

 

[Westernbound]

I reviewed my gmail account, and it looks like all emails were "sent" at the proper times. ........ I was just told today that we changed our internet providers around the same time as well from Centurylink to Charter.... Is this an option on why we are seeing the delays?

Any help is greatly appreciated!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks
Mitch

Since I work at an ISP I can't resist the desire to answer that part of your question. If the message made it from your computer, through your ISP connection, and to your gmail account and you can see the message in your sent items folder on the gmail website, then the problem is "Not" your ISP. Once the Gmail servers have the message it is out of your ISP's sphere of influence.

marvin

 

[ffryan76]

I setup twotonedetect v65 about a year and a half ago on an old windows xp computer. This computer isn't used for anything other than receiving the radio input, using twotonedetect to record the page and then send emails/texts. I am using this one computer to send a page for our fire dept, and using the same computer to send a page for our first responders. These are setup on the same twotonedetect software, just using different tones... Other than restarting the computer about once a month or so, everything has worked great.
Over the last two weeks, I have been starting to see some major delays. This last week, our first responders got a page at 8:34a.m. I received the first responders text only message at 8:34a.m., I then received the text with mms at 8:35, which is all typical times. At 8:41, the fire dept got a page. I didn't receive the mms until 11:08 a.m. I didn't receive the text only message until 3:10p.m. The text only message always comes before the mms, but for some reason that was a lot longer as well. I checked my page to my email address, and that came right away. Is there any explanations for the large delays that I have recently started seeing?

I reviewed my gmail account, and it looks like all emails were "sent" at the proper times. For some reason, we just didn't receive them on our phones for many hours later. I know the disclaimer states that delays can happen, which I understand, I am just trying to understand the reasons why, because it never use to happen. In our area we have a lot of users on US Cellular and Verizon, and they have both been experiencing major delays recently.

I am looking for anything to help point me in the correct direction. Is there something wrong with my computer, should I update to the newer version of twotonedetect, is there a problem with using gmail, is there a problem when the system has multiple pages to the fire dept and first responders about the same time, and how the system works, etc.... I was just told today that we changed our internet providers around the same time as well from Centurylink to Charter.... Is this an option on why we are seeing the delays?

Any help is greatly appreciated!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks
Mitch

Do you have a app specific password for gmail?

 

[johnsonmitc]

Since I work at an ISP I can't resist the desire to answer that part of your question. If the message made it from your computer, through your ISP connection, and to your gmail account and you can see the message in your sent items folder on the gmail website, then the problem is "Not" your ISP. Once the Gmail servers have the message it is out of your ISP's sphere of influence.

marvin

I just got off the phone with the fire chief, and I was given incorrect info. It turns out we didn't switch ISP's. I was told we looked into it, but stayed with centurylink. We just upgraded our speed.

What you stated makes sense to me. I am just grasping at straws trying to figure something out. It appears that the software ran fine, and it looks like gmail "sent" at the correct time. For some reason we aren't getting them on the phones right away..... Are you saying that it has to be with the cell phone carriers then?

Thanks

 

[johnsonmitc]

Do you have a app specific password for gmail?

What exactly do you mean by an app specific password for gmail? I have a password for my gmail account that I use to see the gmail account on the computer if that is what you are referring to. I appologize if I don't fully understand your question.

Thanks

 

[DC31]

I setup twotonedetect v65 about a year and a half ago on an old windows xp computer. This computer isn't used for anything other than receiving the radio input, using twotonedetect to record the page and then send emails/texts. I am using this one computer to send a page for our fire dept, and using the same computer to send a page for our first responders. These are setup on the same twotonedetect software, just using different tones... Other than restarting the computer about once a month or so, everything has worked great.
Over the last two weeks, I have been starting to see some major delays. This last week, our first responders got a page at 8:34a.m. I received the first responders text only message at 8:34a.m., I then received the text with mms at 8:35, which is all typical times. At 8:41, the fire dept got a page. I didn't receive the mms until 11:08 a.m. I didn't receive the text only message until 3:10p.m. The text only message always comes before the mms, but for some reason that was a lot longer as well. I checked my page to my email address, and that came right away. Is there any explanations for the large delays that I have recently started seeing?

I reviewed my gmail account, and it looks like all emails were "sent" at the proper times. For some reason, we just didn't receive them on our phones for many hours later. I know the disclaimer states that delays can happen, which I understand, I am just trying to understand the reasons why, because it never use to happen. In our area we have a lot of users on US Cellular and Verizon, and they have both been experiencing major delays recently.

I am looking for anything to help point me in the correct direction. Is there something wrong with my computer, should I update to the newer version of twotonedetect, is there a problem with using gmail, is there a problem when the system has multiple pages to the fire dept and first responders about the same time, and how the system works, etc.... I was just told today that we changed our internet providers around the same time as well from Centurylink to Charter.... Is this an option on why we are seeing the delays?

Any help is greatly appreciated!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks
Mitch

You are at the mercy of the cell phone companies on this. Nothing you can do to change their delivery. My ttd has about 500 subscribers and i send on average 10K emails/text alerts a month. Usually about 10-20 of these see significant delays. For users with smart phones, download the gmail app and set up a dedicated alert gmail address. Turn on push and you will rarely see a delay.

 

[slingshot202]

You are at the mercy of the cell phone companies on this. Nothing you can do to change their delivery. My ttd has about 500 subscribers and i send on average 10K emails/text alerts a month. Usually about 10-20 of these see significant delays. For users with smart phones, download the gmail app and set up a dedicated alert gmail address. Turn on push and you will rarely see a delay.

I will reply to this before posting my question with regards to one of my installations....I have a few instances of this running and I am finding that it runs better when the sending email address is not GMAIL. Not sure if that is the case in here at all, but, with GMAIL I had seen a significant delay and I read within this 100+ page forum that GMAIL does delay it at times, I am sure the number of pages causes some of that.

I also found that the MMS address for Verizon wireless does not seem to like more than 30 recipients to their service and I was receiving "Too Many Recipients" failures. I had to turn one of my larger lists into two lists and I seem to be OK on that front.

 

[slingshot202]

Now to my post....

I am running several installations of this, one of them is remote on a Raspeberry Pi with the image provided by our friends in this Forum (which thank you, thank you thank you)....

Problem I am seeing is I try to VNC into the connection and I continue to see issues with "Authentication Reason: Too Many Authentication Failures".

I know no one on this dept is trying to use VNC, most of them are not even sure how to access their router!!! So....what is causing this? Usually I do a sudo reboot from CLI and I can get in, but that is not even working today so far.

I could probably add one of the firefighters through CLI, but the reason I like the image so much is VNC.....I have two other installations with Pi and VNC and I am not having these types of issues (though I connect normally through my home router as they are local to me).

Any thoughts?

 

[slingshot202]

As a note - I did find a way to restart VNC via CLI and able to access...

still not sure what is with too many failures since no one is grabbing it....

 

[ffryan76]

What exactly do you mean by an app specific password for gmail? I have a password for my gmail account that I use to see the gmail account on the computer if that is what you are referring to. I appologize if I don't fully understand your question.

Thanks

Start Here Gmail Help App specific password help
This helps google determine that the emails you are sending are not spam. it generates a password and you copy and paste it to the TTD email password.

I use this and have not gotten rejected emails or significant delays since. That being said, I only send out to about 50 subscribers.