Orange County P25 System

N4VKF

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Orange tanker 21 went mutual aid in spotsyvania tonight for a working fire.

Radio IDs received were
4115621
4115622

Also
436xxxx

The first two must be borrowed spotsylvania radios. The second I guess is the prefix for the new orange P25 radios.
 

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Talkgroups 101, 701, and 704 have encrypted traffic. Talkgroup 602 was active with brief traffic, but I couldn't make out what was said. It may have just been a radio check.

Dave
 
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As of this evening, all the LE channels are still in the clear on the OLD system but I’m sure that will be short lived once they turn that off.
 

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Here are the talkgroups I have caught since they started to test the system back in November of 2021. Most I have listed have a recording tying the department to the talkgroup. If I do not know what the talkgroup belongs to, I have a question mark showing I do not know.

100- Orange PD, now encrypted
101- Orange PD, now encrypted
102-? Most likely Orange PD's third channel
401- Possible LOWA Maintenance or Security, Now encrypted
402-? Possibly LOWA
409- LOWA Security to Orange dispatch, now encrypted
502- Orange buses (not encrypted, yet)
600-? Most likely Orange Fire
601- Orange Fire (not encrypted, yet)
602- Orange Fire (not encrypted, yet)
603- Orange Fire (not encrypted, yet)
604-? Most likely Orange Fire
605- Orange Fire (not encrypted, yet)
610- Maintenance? Not sure for what town and or if it might be LOWA maintenance channel.
701- Encrypted
706-?
707-?
64051- Radio tech/ testing
64052- Radio tech/ testing
64055- Radio tech/ testing
64056- Radio tech/ testing
 

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Anyone experiencing simulcast distortion on your phase 2 scanner with the new system?
 

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Anyone experiencing simulcast distortion on your phase 2 scanner with the new system?
Only listening to the Fire/EMS on the new system and hear everything clear. I am in the town of Orange, Eastern side.
It might be helpful to identify the scanners being used. One of you may have a Phase II scanner that was designed to handle simulcast and one of you may not. Or maybe neither of your scanners was designed for simulcast but one of you is in a better location that cuts down the distortion. Most models of Phase II scanners on the market are not considered fully compatible with simulcast systems.
 

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It might be helpful to identify the scanners being used. One of you may have a Phase II scanner that was designed to handle simulcast and one of you may not. Or maybe neither of your scanners was designed for simulcast but one of you is in a better location that cuts down the distortion. Most models of Phase II scanners on the market are not considered fully compatible with simulcast systems.
SDS-100, SDS-200, I have not programmed my Unication G5 as of yet for the new system. All clear audio is being heard on the system. The 200 has been scanning for a week solid with 36 confirmed hits. I will be pulling the log hopefully this weekend to see what is new that was found.
 

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Alrighty, here is the latest pull I have from the discovery of the new system.

109- New
111- New
124- New
135- New
404- New
409- Orange County Sheriffs AND Lake of the woods security channel. HARD CONFIRMATION, partially encrypted at times. (Also, why does a private security company have access to a county system)? Intresting to say the least.
505- New
All fire channels (601, 602, 603, 604, 605, 606, 607, 608) are Orange County Fire and match the database currently.
616- New
619- New
702- New but, encrypted
703- New but, encrypted
719- New, distorted audio at times but, tanker 25 was called and a few other dispatches were for fire/ ems. What county? Not sure as of yet.
720- New

Everything showing new has a hit but no confirmed audio heard, yet.
 

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LOW has always had access to the county system for interop. Some employees there are conservators with law enforcement powers
 

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LOW has always had access to the county system for interop. Some employees there are conservators with law enforcement powers
You are correct, some are SCOPS but, they have not had interoperability with Orange until now. I thought per FCC rules this was not allowed with private companies and state/ local systems going in today. I might be wrong with that but, I can tell you those security guards do not need access to something they know nothing about. Enough people in LOW have been hurt and or even passed on because of their shortcomings over the years.
 

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Orange 911 center used to be able to communicate for FD communication when I worked there.
LOWA Rescue squad and Fire have always been active on the systems. LOWA Security, however, was never had until this new system. I know as I lived there for many years and was a big unsupported HOA due paying citizen of them. Even before Allied took over seven or eight years ago.
 

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SDS-100, SDS-200, I have not programmed my Unication G5 as of yet for the new system. All clear audio is being heard on the system. The 200 has been scanning for a week solid with 36 confirmed hits. I will be pulling the log hopefully this weekend to see what is new that was found.
I am using a BCD996P2 and hear the P25 phase II EMS loud and clear on North side of Town
 
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