Orange County P25 Trunked System on the air.....
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APX8000
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How is he suppossed to post the talkgroups for a system that hasen't been accepted yet. Most of the talkgroups are only on paper right now. Tune in and see if you can help contribute.
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I have been and will continue to listen but i have one questions, Some of the talk groups he has posted have been only on the air for a grand total of 6 sec and he know exactly what talk group it was. So either he is a very good guesser and he has the list of the the talk groups already.. All i am asking is if he has a list post it for the rest of us, that's all. Why play games. If people are monitoring like myself I know what groups and how long the id's are transmitted for but until its used and have people talking on it other then saying test 1,2,3 you have know way of knowing what the groups is being used for. Just saying.
APX8000
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Do you have a recording feature on your equipment ? Because if you did, you would realize that some of the talkgroups were ID’d right over the air.
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If you want to be technical it's all of them not some of them... Time to move on... Have a good night..
Hmm, so first you make assumptions about some alleged full list of talkgroups I have, and now I'm accused of "playing games" because I'm not adding stuff to the database fast enough for your liking? Good way to act towards the only guy who has so far contributed anything to this system. Not a single person has submitted or posted anything besides me, but by all means, gripe that you're not being spoon fed fast enough.
APX8000
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Really ? I answered you how some of them were ID’d and you want to know how ALL of them were ? How about this...using a flux capacitor.
Sorry I have been a bit lax with monitoring the system myself. Gonna throw in some wildcard TG’s in this weekend see what I can cofirm/add.
There hasn't been much activity, and the talkgroups that have been active are already identified, so no worries.
Some people have system knowledge that may not be for public distribution. In many cases they have to wait until the data could theoretically be obtained from monitoring to be able to share the information. This is to ensure that the information can continue to be obtained and also to protect the source from repercussion professionally.
That's how 95% of all FCC licences are done...you say it's built out before you loose it no matter if it is or not, the FCC knows this..there would be no way to do all the leg work for a system not knowing the frequency range you will be using and no way to do a large system in a year. It's one of those rules everyone knows isn't followed
Faulty logic. You apply for the licenses after you know the frequency range you'll be using, that's a no-brainer. As far as "no way to do a large system in a year", that's exactly what §90.629 Extended implementation period exists for. It allows for up to 5 years to construct a system, and often the FCC grants requests for extensions even above and beyond that 5 year period if justified. The FCC does not take frequencies away willy nilly, it's almost entirely the fault of the licensee when frequencies are lost, and therefore there is no reason not to follow the rules. I can personally attest to that as someone who has written up and filed requests for extensions to licenses.
APX8000
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Once again, the north simulcast control channel has rolled no less than 100 times since Thursday. Which tells me either 1) the control inputs are getting hit with RF interference...which I doubt all 4 are; 2) there is a latency issue with the microwave links...which I also doubt; or 3) there is a problem with one of the sub-sites (which seems more probable). I’m surprised the system admin isn’t getting beat up with UEM alarms.
On a side note...whatever happened to the Arden subsite on the south cell...I guess no one took my advice of having Bull Hill as a backup plan just in case. Don’t worry Woodbury, Schunnemunk will fill in....just don’t go up on Route 6 or 293.
On a side note...whatever happened to the Arden subsite on the south cell...I guess no one took my advice of having Bull Hill as a backup plan just in case. Don’t worry Woodbury, Schunnemunk will fill in....just don’t go up on Route 6 or 293.
Trying to download the newly listed Countywide Fire and Countywide EMS Talkgroups to program my radio and am having no success. They are appearing in ARC 536 as Department 1 with no talkgroups or info.
Is there a problem?
Is there a problem?
Sounds like a software issue with Butel. The system looks fine in the RRDB, as well as in Sentinel and when importing with ProScan.
Not me! I just upgraded to 2.2 11 and I still cannot get it to load.
It just ignores EMS & FIRE like they are not even there. I will have to enter them manually
It just ignores EMS & FIRE like they are not even there. I will have to enter them manually
Too early to say for certain, but since there are SP mobiles and portables being programmed and coming online daily, my hunch is that they would eventually like to use this system for Zone 2 operations and get away from VHF, similar to SP Haverstraw on Rockland's system.
I very much doubt there will be a VHF simulcast, as analog sounds awful patched over to P25. Anyone listening to the Park PD talkgroup on Rockland's system knows how bad the VHF patch sounds.
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