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ryan433pk

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Those are all cache radios on event 1-6

They are FN reserves doing some security at hotels. Not sure if it’s wildfire evacuees or what but certainly not court portables.

You can tell they have no experience with official communications because they keep calling eachother by saying “radio check I need a response”
 
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Hi, all
RID 2263091 logged in on site 71, TG 6266 at 10:41 am, then at 10:56 am it logged onto site 72.
Travelling N/E #10 highway to the Melville/Yorkton region.
RID 2263092 was seen on site 19 on August 15, 2024 on TG 6266.
This new TG appears to not be used by a CSO.

RID 2263091 logged in on TG 6266 at 2:17 pm, site 72, then it logged onto site 71 at 2:44 pm.
A 4 hour round trip from my location to its destination.
This is very much like the Deputy Sheriffs from Regina.
If this keeps up I will have to get an image of this unit when it goes by my location.
Enjoy!
 

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It seems as if there are Sheriffs or security of some kind posted and various hotels around the city. A lot of RID's in use, most of the personnel are First Nations people. They are doing security sweeps, and general security work. Some of the RID's are known court sheriffs, I heard their names used, must be pulling double duty.

Very active

6118
6120
6121
6122
6126
6127
Those are all cache radios on event 1-6

They are FN reserves doing some security at hotels. Not sure if it’s wildfire evacuees or what but certainly not court portables.

You can tell they have no experience with official communications because they keep calling eachother by saying “radio check I need a response”
Yep, your right. I heard just about every hotel name mentioned. Very busy security.

No radio etiquette

Oh well that mystery solved.
 
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Hi, wolffe
The talk-group ID 4084 is Juliet #1 and is used by the Martensville fire department and some other FDs around Saskatoon.
They do not have access to encryption and would not be using an RCMP Key ID.
I suspect that the TGID in use was 84.

Moving on.
RID 2262921 ME-WO179 logged in at 8:16 am on TG 6097 is ME-WO-1. I saw this marked unit as it passed by me, east bound on #10 highway. It looked like any other truck used by a conservation officer.
This unit was west bound on the #10 highway from 12:30 to 1:00 pm. I suspect it's based out of Regina.
Encrypted channel grants were seen from RID 2262916 to PA dispatch on TG 6097.

RID 2211239 Foxtrot-150 Nissan Rogue black is F-Div support services logged in on TG 18 at 9:46 am.

RID 2211244 Foxtrot-155 Ford F150 grey F-Div support services logged in at 10:07 am on TG 16.
I saw both units parked in front of the local detachment at 10:15 am.
Both units have VHF antennas and are not up-fitted for policing.

Cheers!
 
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That's great Wil, now you can update your RID labels and share.

RID 2215252 is a GMC Terrain, black (TG94).
RID 2215110 is a GMC Terrain, black, (TG12).
RID 2214149 is a GMC Terrain, black, (TG12).
RID 2211549 is a Chevy Silverado, black, bull bar, (TG161).
RID 2212457 is the link for TG134.
RID 2212459 is the link for TG135.
See the screenshots with only the one RID seen on TG16.
Regroup 42129 SSN 31.
Regroup 42033 SSN 00.
We have now seen all of the PPSTN Regroups that will be used.
Right now I am seeing CICC, ERT, CIRT, WEST, and CRT on TG74. Lots of units and communications.

Cheers.
 

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Ok, so 30=48=TAC 4, very good thanks wolffe.
At 9:28 am the RID 22114## logged in on TG 18 and then logged out at 9:37 am on site 71.
I know that this RID is used by Ronda B the commander of F-Division, so I have not provided the full RID.
She will be visiting the Treaty Four Gathering.
Cheers.
 

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Something happened at the Saskatoon airport this morning. 26 or 27 patients, I heard both numbers.

Only TG that was in use was TG 5253, MCC 4. 20 were transported to hospital via bus and the rest via ambulance. They gave the patients coded colors, red, green, yellow and most disturbing black.

Maybe only a drill? Regina had emergency drills and the airport yesterday.

I would of expected more Tgs involved if it were real.

I didn't look at he city TGs, City TG's are too busy to keep track of.

Final count is 32 patients, sounds like a lot of confusion. Numbers keep changing.

TG 178 just came alive with lots of activity, not sure if its related


2263094 on TG 6266, not sure who this is
 
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Hi to all.

The Key ID for this talk-group came as a surprise to me.

RID 2213279 login on talk-group 217 WEST at 8:01 am.
RID 2213283 login on talk-group ID 217 at 9:02 am.
RID 2213272 channel grant on talk-group 217 WEST, RCMP General Duty Key ID 0039=0057
HDU MI 489C8E 05DF9A 3A6B00 Standard AES KID 0039 GID 00D9 ok
LC 00 00 44 00 00 D9 21 C5 98 Group Voice Channel User I 21C598 G 00D9 (4 priority, packet protected) ok

Unitrunker 2.2.0.13 is able to decode these ISP messages:
ISP Data Channel grant from RID 2212569 FHPS portable 5.
-56 C6 00 21 C2 D9 81 02 88 00 FB 8B Confirmed Data Header I 21C2D9 SAP 06 pad 02 Seq 0 frag 8 offset 00
-03 08 00 21 C2 D9 80 00 00 00 C6 8E Acknowledge Response I 21C2D9 class 0 type 1 status 0
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Hi, again or will be soon.
Building the PPSTN Key ID data base.

Provincial.
Key ID 0001=0001=1 used on talk-group IDs 6000, 6069 and 6179.
Key ID 0001 0100=0014=0020 used on talk-group ID 6206.
Key ID 0001 0101=0015=0021 used on talk-group ID 6208 and 6209.
Key ID 0001 0011=0019=0025 used on talk-group ID 6097.
Key ID 0001 1011=001B=0027 used on talk-group ID 6223.

Feds.
A simple pattern appears in the RCMP key IDs and the talk-group IDs.

Key ID 0011 0111=0037=0055 is used on talk-group IDs 42030 to 42129.
Key ID 0011 1000=0038=0056 maybe used on talk-group ID?.*
Key ID 0011 1001=0039=0057 is used on all the general duty RCMP TGs.
Key ID 0011 1010=003A=0058 maybe used on talk-group ID?.*
Key ID 0011 1011=003B=0059 maybe used on talk-group ID 160.*
Key ID 0011 1100=003C=0060 maybe used on talk-group ID 161.*
Key ID 0011 1101=003D=0061 maybe used on talk-group ID 162.*
Key ID 0011 1110=003E=0062 maybe used on talk-group ID 163.*
Key ID 0011 1111=003F=0063 is used on talk-group ID 164.
Key ID 0100 0000=0040=0064 maybe used on talk-group ID 165.*
Key ID 0100 0001=0041=0065 maybe used on talk-group ID 166.*
Key ID 0100 0010=0042=0066 maybe used on talk-group ID 167.*
Key ID 0100 0011=0043=0067 maybe used on talk-group IDs 168 and 102.*
Key ID 0100 0100=0044=0068 maybe used on talk-group ID 169.*
Key ID 0100 0101=0045=0069 maybe used on talk-group IDs 171 and 104.*
Key ID 0100 0110=0046=0070 maybe used on talk-group ID 172.*
Key ID 0100 0111=0047=0071 maybe used on talk-group IDs 173 and 106.*
Key ID 0100 1000=0048=0072 is used on talk-group ID 107 and 174?.*
Key ID 0100 1001=0049=0073 is used on talk-group ID 176 and 108?*
Key ID 0100 1010=004A=0074 maybe used on talk-group ID 177.*
Key ID 0100 1011=004B=0075 is used on talk-group ID 178.
Key ID 0100 1100=004C=0076 maybe used on talk-group 179.*
Key ID 0100 1101=004D=0077 maybe used on talk-group ID 180.*
Key ID 0100 1110=004E=0078 maybe used on talk-group ID?*
Key ID 0100 1111=004F=0079 maybe used on talk-group ID?*

Provincial.
Key ID 0110 0000 0000 0001=6001=24577 used on talk-group 6136.
Key ID 0110 1001 0001 0101=6915=26901 used on talk-groups 3009 and 6225 to 6228.
Key ID 0110 1001 0001 1110=6916=26902 used on talk-groups 6179 6235 and 6240.
Key ID 0111 0101 0011 0000=7530=30000 used on talk-groups 3000 to 3003.
Cheers.
 
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Hi, all
RID 2263092 logged in at 8:08 am on TG 6266. Then the RID returned at 1:30 pm. This unit was in Saskatoon August 15th. These units appear to be traveling to Yorkton on Thursdays.
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Thursday at 3:57 pm 2266096 logged in on 6266 tower 32
Thursday at 3:56 pm 2263093 logged in on 6266 tower 19
Thursday at 4:00 pm 2263096 joins on 6266 tower 19
Thursday at 4:45 pm 2266093 logged in on 6266 tower 32 extended data
Thursday at 5:05 pm 2263093 logged out on 6266 tower 19
Thursday at 5:08 pm 2263140 logged in on 6266 tower 34
Thursday at 5:16 pm 2263140 logged out on 6266 tower 34
Thursday at 5:23 pm 2263140 logged in on 6266 tower 34
Thursday at 5:39 pm 2263137 logged in on 6266 tower 34
Thursday at 6:00 pm 2263137 joins 6266 on tower 19
Thursday at 6:02 pm 2263137 logged out on 6266 tower 19
Thursday at 6:04 pm 2263094 logged in on 6266 tower 19 extended Data
Thursday at 6:13 pm 2263094 logged out on 6266 tower 19

On another note 6177 activity

Thursday at 5:07 pm 2264763 logged in on 6177 tower 32
 
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4:14 pm - Possible high speed chase in progress.
A594 Regina on TG 18 communicating with A280 FQ and A279 FQ
CICC and MOSS communicating with all units. A275 FQ and B190 FQ join in along with FQ portables.

4:47 pm - event may be over

4:55 pm - CICC communicating with portable FQ5.
DOCC coms with B190, A275, A278 and Indian Head portable.
5:03 pm - looks to be over now
 
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Hi, to all
At about 10:30 this morning STRT, ERT and RMCU members arrived here.

At noon the talk-group 54 Wadena came alive with activity. CICC and then MOSS communicating with many Alpha and Bravo units along with ERT and CIRT members.

Then at 12:12 pm all units moved to TAC 2 with PDS units joining the action.

The operation is still going on at 12:55 pm.

I suspect that this operation may be related to this:

 
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