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slowmover

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Most of the amateur radios I used to listen on CB have really good DSP noise reduction built right into the radio. Of course I would never transmit there with an amateur radio. Oh wait, I hear someone calling on 38 LSB through my Icom 7100, gotta answer that!
As I’ve related previously, I bought a 100W Yaesu ft450d awhile back.

To think of a comparable CB + amp + DSP in dollar terms means the CB radio (new) shouldn’t greatly exceed $250.

The 450 plus a Kenwood KES-5 speaker (my cost of each; used) isn’t very far above $500.

A new Lincoln or Anytone 6666 is right at $250.

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Yours is the first where I’ve seen a report of the KL-200 (vs the common KL-203). Glad for that. Sorry it isn’t sold here. 12A demand.

I wanted a bit more than what a KL-203 offered (75W, actual). The step to a KL-7405 involved physical size & amp draw a bit more than what I felt necessary (based on a great deal of big truck use with a particular antenna system), butI can make it work.

That 200 is at a sweet spot for size, demand & power output.
I bought the KL-200P because I wanted a KL-203P, but it was out of stock. The KL-200P costs about 25 bucks more, for some reason, but is only swinging about 125 watts -- whereas the KL-203P hits closer to the 200 mark. I think I've seen about 185.

I own both of them, now. I also own a couple KL-35s. I am getting an almost 50-watt swing out of the KL-35 in my wife's pilot with a Realistic TRC-422A, using a Hustler magnet mount. A friend of mine with an indoor dipole is using a KL-35, and talking to a station two miles away, he jumped from 5 swinging toward a 7 to a solid 10 swinging 15 or so.

I am not familiar with the KL-7405. I would like to try the KL-503 though.

Right now, having the Tram 3500 center roof on my tall Chevy pickup, with the KL-200P, it sounds like I'm on a decent base rig to stations within a 5 mile radius of town. I'm going to do some more specific range testing this weekend.
 

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The only President I had was an HR-2510 when they first came out and I was not impressed. The radio lasted about a month until I dumped it.

The best matched CB/amplifier combo I have is a Stryker SR-94HPC running on high power into an SGC-500 amplifier. The radio on AM keys down at 10 watts and under peak modulation its 40 watts, the perfect 6dB increase during modulation. The amplifier then puts out 125 watts carrier and 500 watts under full modulation and is completely linear and transparent. You cant tell its on except for the signal getting much bigger. The SGC amp is not a junk CB amp, its got 8 2SC2290s, lots of protection circuits and will do a good 700 watts on lower HF amateur bands and runs fine down to about 11 volts just fine keeping full output. It will also do full output power all day long with the optional fan kit.

I bought the KL-200P because I wanted a KL-203P, but it was out of stock. The KL-200P costs about 25 bucks more, for some reason, but is only swinging about 125 watts -- whereas the KL-203P hits closer to the 200 mark. I think I've seen about 185.

I own both of them, now. I also own a couple KL-35s. I am getting an almost 50-watt swing out of the KL-35 in my wife's pilot with a Realistic TRC-422A, using a Hustler magnet mount. A friend of mine with an indoor dipole is using a KL-35, and talking to a station two miles away, he jumped from 5 swinging toward a 7 to a solid 10 swinging 15 or so.

I am not familiar with the KL-7405. I would like to try the KL-503 though.

Right now, having the Tram 3500 center roof on my tall Chevy pickup, with the KL-200P, it sounds like I'm on a decent base rig to stations within a 5 mile radius of town. I'm going to do some more specific range testing this weekend.
 

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Its been a few years but when I bought my 980 they were running around $119 new.
$140 ish on Amazon or Walmart. Cheapest I've found one:
 

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The only President I had was an HR-2510 when they first came out and I was not impressed. The radio lasted about a month until I dumped it.

The best matched CB/amplifier combo I have is a Stryker SR-94HPC running on high power into an SGC-500 amplifier. The radio on AM keys down at 10 watts and under peak modulation its 40 watts, the perfect 6dB increase during modulation. The amplifier then puts out 125 watts carrier and 500 watts under full modulation and is completely linear and transparent. You cant tell its on except for the signal getting much bigger. The SGC amp is not a junk CB amp, its got 8 2SC2290s, lots of protection circuits and will do a good 700 watts on lower HF amateur bands and runs fine down to about 11 volts just fine keeping full output. It will also do full output power all day long with the optional fan kit.
The HR2510 has low modulation with the factory microphone. But a simple tweak and a power microphone improves that greatly.

I have both the HR2510 and the Emperor TS-5010. The Emperor is clearly the superior radio, but my HR is reliable and sounds good.

As for my big box, I have a Dave Made with 8 Toshibas. If you drive it with something like the Thunderbolt 101, 1.6 kw is not unrealistic. Driving it with 4 watts or less keys down at about 150 watts and swings 450 to 500, depending. It sounds amazing on low drive.
 

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The HR-2510 receiver was lacking in my opinion. You can make most radios sound ok on transmit but if the receiver is not up to the task its a lost cause.


The HR2510 has low modulation with the factory microphone. But a simple tweak and a power microphone improves that greatly.

I have both the HR2510 and the Emperor TS-5010. The Emperor is clearly the superior radio, but my HR is reliable and sounds good.

As for my big box, I have a Dave Made with 8 Toshibas. If you drive it with something like the Thunderbolt 101, 1.6 kw is not unrealistic. Driving it with 4 watts or less keys down at about 150 watts and swings 450 to 500, depending. It sounds amazing on low drive.
 

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I find it to be no better or no worse than any other mainstream consumer-end radio I own, and I currently have three of them in my possession. One of the three belongs to my friend, but I got it for them.

But no radio in my collection can match the RX on my SBE Trinidad. My old 135 XLR is close, but the receive on my Trinidad is warm, clear and I hear distant stations better than any other radio I own.
 

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I could give you the same disingenuous BS that self-righteous people gave me when I dared to modify my Kenwood for use on GMRS, adhering to the proper power output levels, and no one being able to find out any different :D
If they cared enough, they could. Read up on transmitter fingerprinting.
 

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How does the Cobra brand compare to the President series of CB radios? Back in the day Cobra used to be the best brand you could get. Has that changed now in 2021?
President *has* to be better.... new design. Plus all reports say the audio is phenomenal on transmit. Many more features that any other Part 95 CB.
 

slowmover

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I have heard about that transmit audio. President doesn't make base stations?
“Base stations” pretty well disappeared. It’s a mobile inside a case with a power supply and cheap speaker.

Find the mobile you want, add a power supply and be done.

I bought my son a McKinley. For mobile. He wants to use it in the house I included an ALINCO DM-30 I found on sale.

And, as any CB or Export radio needs digital signal processing, a West Mountain Radio CLEARSPEECH DSP Speaker.

The “convenience” may not be present at first, but there are racks or cases or DIY solutions to putting things together conveniently and pleasingly. And the modularity to swap these components for others.


Occasionally a “new” base shows up. There were some RCI-69 last year. High priced for the privilege. Soon sold out. Year before was a $995 Ranger 2995 of which I’d have said the same.

Much easier to put together what one likes with top quality gear and some trouble to get it right than overpay for “a panel”.

It’s the way things are for now.

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