You are correct in your assumptions. This is a feature that I've been wanting in a scanner for a while now.
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In addition to NAC decoding for conventional if you happen upon a trunked voice channel you'll receive a NAC also. It's comprised of the last two digits of the system id and then the connect tone number. So: AAB format.
When doing a search you can rule out whether the channel is conventional or trunked.
When doing a search you can rule out whether the channel is conventional or trunked.
bc780l said:
I-calls have been mentioned to be included, however neither the display mode (hex or decimal) or 800000 tracking has not.
KD4YGG said:
Thank you.
mfn002 said:
Sounded as good or better than the Pro96 to me. I got to spend an hour of quality time with the folks from GRE (and the radio) when they stopped by the AOSC booth at Dayton.
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I really like the way all the handhelds look. That one closely resembles the Pro-97.
I wonder what the release prices will be? Maybe an affordable digital scanner now?
I wonder what the release prices will be? Maybe an affordable digital scanner now?
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KG4LJF said:
Per recent posts on the Yahoogroups PSR-500 mailinglist, the display model at Dayton was in a Pro-97 chassis and the final product will be in something closer to the concept pic but still with a similar form factor to the Pro-97 (in size, anyways).
Per announcements by GRE, they are aiming at pricing the PSR-500 and PSR-600 at around the same cost as the Pro-96/Pro-2096 (around $400-500 on release). Unfortunately, due to licensing required to include APCO-25 functionality in a scanner, they can't really offer it for less than that; even the Uniden 250D was $300 for the scanner and the card allowing APCO-25 was an *additional* $200.
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Will the new GRE scanners mute encryption...similar to the Uniden BCD 396T?
I am so thrilled at the NAC on conventional decoding. I'm on a scanner buying moratorium until I can get ahold of one the does NAC decode and search. Good timing GRE ... the Uniden 396/996 are great radios and I would have purchased either one had they decoded NAC. I can hardly wait.
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Tom, WA8PYR-
Glad to see GRE doing somthing- but how about the dread RE-BANDING?
(Being GRE I assume they have it covered...) Any mention of this in your meeting with them?
-Jon
Glad to see GRE doing somthing- but how about the dread RE-BANDING?
(Being GRE I assume they have it covered...) Any mention of this in your meeting with them?
-Jon
rdale
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The Pro96 can already handle rebanding, and they said this CPU can be updated by the end user. I think that'd cover it ;>
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Release Date?
I may have missed it reading all the posts, but is there a release date set yet? I presume some time this fall?
I may have missed it reading all the posts, but is there a release date set yet? I presume some time this fall?
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DPS8504 said:
Reportedly the official release date is October 2007 (and this is presuming that there aren't show-stopper problems in the betas; usually GRE has been pretty good at getting stuff out on time, though).
Of course, this *is* a ballpark figure, but presumably a lot of this is so that the thing can be FCC type accepted (if it hasn't been already), final testing done by beta testers, etc.
If you're patient, you can start saving now and have the $499 ready to have the PSR-500 in October. :3
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DPS8504 said:
That's the neat thing about the PSR-500/600 Wiki -- all the details from the posts are there so you don't _have_ to read all them ;>
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VintageJon said:
As others have noted:
a) The Pro-96 (which is the immediate predecessor to the PSR-500) does have the capacity to reprogram trunking tables using Win96; it's been posted here previously that the PSR-500 will have a similar trunking table reprogramming capacity (whilst I have not heard this officially confirmed, I'd also expect it to have a higher capacity than with the Pro-96).
b) As noted, apparently the firmware covering frequencies outside of the cell band is programmable (so it's entirely possible that once rebanding hits, there will be a firmware upgrade for the trunking tables); the Uniden BC996T has a similar functionality due to rebanding anyways.
c) Depending on frequencies used, there may be a firmware patch for the low 700MHz band and/or there may be a "testing" hack (the Pro-96 can be opened up in much of the 700MHz and mil-air bands using Win96, though not trunkable and not as well as the Pro-97 as it was not explicitly designed with sensitivity in those bands). I would not count out Don Starr's software to enable a few other undocumented features with the PSR-500 as well.
d) Depending on where you live, it may be a while before we have to worry about rebanding in practice--many areas where I live were supposed to have switched over already (notably, the SAFE-T system which is *definitely* going to be affected by rebanding), but Nextel has been dragging its feet (in that it is not wanting to pay the actual costs to public safety groups in regards to rebanding) and I frankly expect it to be delayed for some time--in the western US in particular, I'll personally be pleasantly surprised if rebanding actually occurs before the successor model to the PSR-500 comes out.
In other words, we probably have quite some time before it becomes a pressing concern outside of a few areas, and there will almost certainly be a firmware upgrade for those areas when it becomes a problem. (Within maybe a month or two of the Pro-96 coming out--which originally did *not* trunk-track CPQSK-modulated APCO-25 systems--there was a DSP firmware upgrade fixing that issue due to several major systems being affected. )
I also think part of why GRE is going to firmware upgrades for both CPU firmware and DSP firmware is because there *have* been about four versions each of the Pro-92 and Pro-96 CPUs and it's less problematic to simply upgrade the CPU firmware than it is to send out the scanner to get a new CPU soldered in. Rebanding is also part of it as well--that's why the BC996T is firmware-upgradable (and was in itself a sort of "proof of concept" that a firmware upgradable scanner *could* be FCC type approved--there was worry that one couldn't be due to the risk of opening up the cellular band) in order to work with rebanding, and the PRS-500 is probably going to actually be *easier* to reband (especially as everything seems to be object oriented; if the trunking tables are treated as an object (along with frequencies, talkgroup tables, etc.) then it would be remarkably simple to update these in a firmware upgrade).
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windigofer said:
Not to stray too far off - but the BC246, 330, 396, and 15 all were reprogrammable before the 996...
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rdale said:
Point and well taken (I was referring to probably the Uniden model closest to matching features of the PSR-500, plus I've heard more direct mention of the '996 and '396 being rebanding-capable; then again, honestly, most of what I've paid attention to with Uniden kit has been the APCO-25 capable radios as I have both conventional and trunked APCO-25 systems locally).
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