RCMP PACS Changes

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Does anyone know if the Alberta RCMP have renumbered their Freeway Patrol units? Last night I heard Ponoka Freeway dealing with an incident and the call would be Gulf 3, I mean Hotel 3 give me a call. Has Hotel taken over from Gulf for Airdrie, Innisfail, Ponoka, Leduc and their commander in Red Deer? What are they using Gulf for Marine or bike patrol like in B.C.? Motorcycles?
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Saskatchewan keeps it nice, clean and easy.

AXXX Cars are General Duty cars.
BXXX Cars are Municipal Policing Cars (Yorkton and North Battleford City)
CXXX Cars are Traffic Services Cars and Motorcycles
DXXX Cars are Plainclothes units like Drugs and EDU
EXXX Cars are Support/Special Units like K-9, Radio Techs, SAR, etc.
FXXX Cars are HQ Admin Units
MXXX Cars are Non-RCMP Policing Units on the RCMP System (First Nations Policing, Small Town Police Services)
 

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The K division vehicles are more or less the same as what Colby posted - at least, the last time I heard.

Here, A is a rural car and B is a "town" car. However, that doesn't seem to matter - I was on a job this afternoon with 2B38 despite the fact I was in a quite rural area.

C is considered Highway Patrol. G is, or was pending confirmation of what Harry's asking, Freeway Patrol.

Some people would have you believe that H is for helicopter, but helicopters identify per their tail number (i.e. "MPK" for C-GMPK). Having said that, I wonder what the aircraft they are using for airborne "clocking" are called?

Other non-standard vehicles like boats still get normal callsigns. Cochrane's boat is 2A4.

There are two other letters in use in Alberta. Z is a command post vehicle, as in 6Z2 etc. T is used for Alberta Sheriffs.
 

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Thanks Jay, I hadn't thought the hotel units may be the highway aircraft and in the case I heard may have been exactly that. MPP is the Edmonton based helicopter.

Z is indeed ERT and I am wondering what the Victor cars are in Strahcona County. Perhaps their county patrol.

Every province seems a bit different but as Colby says Foxtrot are administration (K-Div) here.

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Unlike our neighbors to the west, we don't have any helicopters, but we do have two aircraft which mainly cover the north for quick backup, ERT, prisoner transports, supplies, etc. They simply go by the last three of their tail numbers as well. The two aircraft are MPE and MPW. Jay put it in simpler terms than I did as well, AXXX cars here are rural and BXXX are in "town" for places like North Battleford, Yorkton, Swift Current, Fort Qu'Appelle however, I have noticed the same thing as Jay, that in some cases Bravo cars do go a ways out of their "area". An example of this for us was with the flooding in Maple Creek area last week, numerous Bravo cars were brought over from Swift City to assist.
 

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C1 is actually moving voice traffic in Calgary today. A number of tests including one guy who appears to be nearly out of range of the repeater (where can you be like that in Alberta?, everywhere I go I get "mike clicks" on C1 that are 5x5) and one emergency button activation that telecoms called out but never got a response to.
 
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Makes sense as most RCMP DES has gone to UHF and 800 Mhz. Time to phase out that crappy VHF DES and all cars in the Province have CORD 1 to 5 already programmed in. We may see C1 and C4 used somewhere in Alberta like C3 is used in Wetaskiwin. Maybe Spec O will even free up Tac 1 as an analog repeater.
 

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While the skip was coming in this weekend I heard B15 simulcast with A6 for Wetaskiwin and Hobbema. CORD 3 was Wetaskiwin but not simulcast.

1Hotel1 was working Edmonton area Highway Patrol areas. Seems to be a K Div unit helping out in the summer.
 

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I've heard from a reliable source that the Hotel units are motorcycles, Papa units are Crime Prevention and Victim Services units out of K Div and yes the Sheriffs are the Tango units.
That just leaves the Sierra and Victor units. Did hear a Victor unit dispatched to a sexual assault in the Stony Plain area on the weekend.
 

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I have been working out in lloydminster for the last 4 days and have yet to hear anything on A13 or B13. The 155.43 repeater has a PL of 131.8Hz
 

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Based on further monitoring last night I 'think' there may be a PPSTN to PACS patch on the 155.43 freq. Heard a unit talking with an echo in the background, not the typical screeching feed back with two analog radio near each other.
 

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Are you able to confirm the Tone as 131.8 rather than 123.0 (Cord 1)? One thing to try is scan the inputs if you hear the same activity on 154.370 it is F Division 1. If you hear activity on 154.770 it is K Division.
 

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Are you able to confirm the Tone as 131.8 rather than 123.0 (Cord 1)? One thing to try is scan the inputs if you hear the same activity on 154.370 it is F Division 1. If you hear activity on 154.770 it is K Division.

Yes the PL is 131.8. I willl listen to the input freq after my radio is charged and will report back, probably tomorrow night.
As well there are two distinct repeater tails, one is longer than the other, the echo that I was refering to was the short tail, and normal ops comms have a much longer repeater tail.
 

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Ok, the radio is done charging, the input to 155.4700 is 154.3700, mobiles are NOT transmitting PL.
Hearing units in the range of 3B13* and 3B14*
I will try listening to B9 tomorrow at work, although I am working about 70+Km north of Kitscoty.

Thanks for the pointers Harry
 
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