RCMP PACS Changes

[harryshute]

Thanks, you may want to try B7 155.550 for Elk Point if you are that far north of Kitscoty. Alberta units still have F Div 1 or A still programmed into them. It is odd that they haven't switched it to an Alberta repeater. But in Jasper the cars must switch to E Div channels once they cross the border into B.C.

 

[HDMechanic]

Had to wipe the dust off this post. Was traveling threw Lake Louise and Banff today and found they have now linked RPTR's B6 with A3. Could here banff cars talking on B6 and when I checked A3 the same conversation was going on. Also found that A5 155.5800 is also being used in the area. Came in very strong in Canmore area. Was it just me or has anyone else heard Sheriffs using the PACS system now and are being dispatched by the RCMP. The are tango units. I wonder if hey no longer using Mic system??

 

[Jay911]

I just heard 2T26 on the A15 repeater, whereas when I last listened nearly a month ago the sheriffs were 1T4 and 1T8 and such in my area. (Sheriffs used to use the system infrequently to talk to the Mounties.) So perhaps things have changed, I'm not sure.

 

[HDMechanic]

Thats what I figured. I believe they are using the same first numbers as the other units in the area. The are also using all the local detachment's as well. I heard them talking about going to the detachment. A friend of mine also was in Rocky Mountain House over the weekend and seen a three sheriffs cars parked in the parking lots. I am also listening A4 at the moment and the sheriffs are helping out the local RCMP with their work. This is interesting.

 

[harryshute]

When the Sheriff's started working they set up 5 different integration models with the RCMP. They have now gone with the total integration that they tried in Olds. Sheriff's are now based at detachments and are using PACS radios. They still have their own system for now. Most times they book off with RCMP OCC they already have all the pertinent info off the system. Not sure if they also have MWS.

So instead of using 1 which is the Edmonton K Division Headquarters designator they use 2 for Calgary, 3 for Edmonton, Ft. McMurray and St. Paul, 4 Lethbridge, 5 Peace River and 6 Red Deer.

Lacome town police Lima units are now even being timed by Red Deer OCC for 10-70 checks. This can be heard on the RR feed out of the Red Deer area.

 

[Jay911]

Sheriff's are now based at detachments and are using PACS radios. They still have their own system for now. Most times they book off with RCMP OCC they already have all the pertinent info off the system. Not sure if they also have MWS.

I believe they do because one of the tango cars on A15 last night was told that OCC "acknowledged the 10-30 on your terminal"..

 

[harryshute]

Makes sense as useing two radio systems to book off would be duplication.

Right now in West Edmonton I'm hearing RCMP PACS link 421.6125 linked to Hobemma detachment. Perhaps it's the new link set up between Red Deer OCC and Edmonton OCC. They can now radio patch from any where in the province.

 

[SCPD]

I show 421.6125 as a link between C4 at Bear Hills and B10 local at the detachment. Found this link about a year ago when I was working in the area.

 

[harryshute]

Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry8350i/4.6.1.294 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/126)

I have been working out in lloydminster for the last 4 days and have yet to hear anything on A13 or B13. The 155.43 repeater has a PL of 131.8Hz

Kayn1n the frequency pair you heard is RCMP B16 out of K Div.

 

[Jay911]

B16 is not in the DB. Do I understand it as 155.43 PL 131.8 = B16? Does it follow that 123.0 PL = A16?

Any more new repeaters above that?

Which "tac" channels are still in use (since a lot of the frequencies for the "new" A/B10>A/B16 re-use tac frequencies) and what if any tones are they using?

 

[harryshute]

Historically since A10 to A15 and B10 to B15 I would assume A16 would be the 123.0 tone. But I've not heard it or monitored mentions of it. I will plug it in to confirm.

 

[Jay911]

Historically since A10 to A15 and B10 to B15 I would assume A16 would be the 123.0 tone. But I've not heard it or monitored mentions of it. I will plug it in to confirm.

I set it up in my base scanner and let it log over night. I'm seeing one-second-long "mike clicks" on 155.43 tone 123.0 intermittently, with no visible pattern (once at 01:40:38, once at 02:37:24, once at 03:14:30, again at 04:03:44, 05:54:54, 06:08:09, 06:20:02, 06:37:06, 06:45:13, 06:57:08, 07:14:10, etc). This is the same behavior I've been noticing for over a year when I had the same frequency/tone configured as C1.

 

[harryshute]

AFAIK C1 is still in service in major centers. I don't think you will see B16 used anywhere near any of the C1 areas. The only difference between C1 and B16 is the input frequency. The only use of B16 I know of is Lloydminster City policed by the Alberta K Div cars. They probably also have the Harris F Div M7100 mobiles as well.

 

[beeperboy]

There is an A17/B17 as well.

BB

 

[SCPD]

There is an A17/B17 as well.

BB

and BSR9.....

 

[Jay911]

Care to share the frequencies for any of these?

 

[harryshute]

All I can add right now is VR (Vehicle Repeater) 159.390 131.8 and BSR 4 159.330 131.8.

 

[Jay911]

Thanks.

Are those BSRs programmed to pass through the tone? There is an EMS agency near here which has a repeater input of 159.33 141.3 and I am logging many hits of the dispatcher side of the signal, quite strong, on that freq, stronger than I'd expect given my location and the dispatch/tower site locations. Not seeing anything on 159.33 131.8 at all.

 

[harryshute]

I don't think they would assign BSR 4 anywhere near Morley because of interference. Does the FD still use tone 100.0?

 

[Jay911]

I don't think they would assign BSR 4 anywhere near Morley because of interference. Does the FD still use tone 100.0?

I don't even know if the FD has ever had radios. I saw that frequency programmed in something in a mutual aid department (I think) ages ago. Nakoda/Morley FD has, to the best of my knowledge, only one truck and I doubt they have any kind of comms at all - definitely no dispatch center etc.

Maybe I am picking up EMS dispatch somehow. I'll have to fiddle with my programming and see what I get.

On topic: If anyone can share any of the frequencies not shown in the DB (A/B17, the "cord" channel actual freq/PL since they are not consistently listed anywhere, the BSRs, etc), please do.