kayn1n32008
ØÆSØ Say it, say 'ENCRYPTION'
Damn that pesky border zone where the US has to cooperate and can’t do what ever it wants.
Saia/Goosetown DMR Tier 3 (MOTOTRBO Capacity Max)
- Thread starter ak716
- Start date
- Status
Damn that pesky border zone where the US has to cooperate and can’t do what ever it wants.
Not meant like that, just figured it was stuff in Canada building out a system, and thought I was looking in the wrong side of the border. Regardless, I was wrong. In WNY, I get a bunch of Canadian TIII systems, mostly in the 420 range so I thought it was Canadian signals seeing how there are few TIII system in the WNY area, and only one have been in the UHF band.
I just checked all the known licensed frequencies for Passport and SaiaNet at Attica and SaiaNet Rochester and Bristol for any CapMax TIII activity and hear nothing but the existing Con+. It may be worth keeping an eye on the various Saia sites to see what develops with CapMax L7 system implementation. BTW - Passport seems to be dead at Attica. The other Passport sites are out of range for me.
I checked the new updated Master database today for this system and can not find it, can someone point me in the direction were it will show up. I checked Erie County and Niagara county and some other counties and I find nothing. I found it on RR, just wondering
It will not appear in Sentinel until the CH ID's (aka LCN's) are confirmed.
I've been doing the same over the last week here. Same results as well, for now
Thanks for the information, I'm getting a good 5 bar signal so I will run Analyze LCN Finder on it and see if I can get anything
I don't want to get OT on this thread but, since the frequencies may be used for the new system, is Passport still active at all?
@andyk62990 reports that the CH ID for 424.8875 at Site 101 should be Ch 146
I did a quick check off the posted Saia Passport frequencies in SDRTrunk, and I'm not getting any LTR activity. I did see the distinct little pops of activity that one would see for a LTR system in the 424 area, where Site 1 did basically live, not matching to Saia's Passport, and a check of those frequencies in the FCC shows them coming back to FM Communications, so its possibly/probably from their stuff, just not listed in the DB. Seeing how I used to get Site 1 in pretty good, and nothing now, I think it would be safe to safe Site 1 Passport is off the air, but I could be wrong.
Has anybody seen any more activity on either the Goosetown or Saia end of the system?
Ever since the information was posted I have been listening to the system but have not picked up any traffic on it talk groups absolutely nothing
Just picked up the Techs on TG=101 only a couple of words.
I just checking back on this system, I reviewed the Discovery information that I had run for about 10 days strait a few weeks ago, with nothing. I ran DSD last week or so on both sites and I got the red isolated message, and today, I noticed there are no CC's being broadcast on any of those frequencies. Maybe down for maintenance and/or relocation of equipment? I saw recently there was a modification to a Saia license that would put a site on Grand Island (WQCE961), which, I believe that site would be new to Saia. Maybe related? Just browsing around the spectrum, I haven't found any additional CC's or sites yet.
So, might be related to the Saia/Goosetown project thing, might not be, but, 454.6000, which is/was a SaiaNet Con+ Site 3 - Perrysburg frequency is now showing TIII L5-103, CC3 NL 101, 111, 117. Furthermore, 462.0125 , which is/was a SaiaNet Con+ Site 17 - Colden frequency is now showing TIII L5-117, CC 7 NL 101, 102, 103, 111. The Saia/Goosetown previously reported TIII channels in the WNY area have been not transmitting (at least from what I can tell) for some time now). I'm no rocket scientist, but, I'd think it would be safe to say, theres some Con+ to TIII change over happening, or at least testing. I'm gonna load in what I got into my 436, and run discovery for a while and see what comes up over the next few days.
I just checked all the licensed frequencies for the Attica, Bristol and Rochester sites and no TIII activity yet. I did notice Rochester CON+ LCN4, 464.6125 is not presently active so I am going to keep an eye on that.
I did a scan through of the 400's this afternoon, nothing else coming in related to this, as of 1500 hrs. Discovery just logged a hit today on Site 117, TG 500101, just some test counts, and a few affiliations, with the same RID's that were doing the test counts so. 500101 is the same TG on SaiaNet Con+ for the radio techs. Nothing for nothing, I'm actually really interested in this, and if it is a direct replacement to the Con+ system, with all the traffic that is on the Con+ system right now, especially during business hours, how they are going to roll out a smooth transition from Con+ to TIII. Maybe OTAP, TG by TG basically, as as TG's transition and the load comes off the Con+, more frequencies transition to TIII?
So far Saia has been using the same site numbers from the Con+ system, but in the 1xx block, so what you've discovered checks out.
Perrysburg Site 3 Con+ = Site 103 CapMax
Colden Site 17 Con+ = Site 117 CapMax
Site 102 should be Attica and Site 111 should be Arcade, both in Wyoming County.
Perrysburg Site 3 Con+ = Site 103 CapMax
Colden Site 17 Con+ = Site 117 CapMax
Site 102 should be Attica and Site 111 should be Arcade, both in Wyoming County.
Yep, that was I was figuring. I just haven't seen those sites on the air yet. It doesn't say ISOLATE like other TRS's do, which the L7 was doing when only one of the two sites was on the air. Regardless, its in its testing phase still clearly, but, I'll keep my eye on it and checking for new sites to come on the air.
And I'm not pulling in either Wyoming Co site, but, that's not abnormal for me, they are hit or miss for me.
EDIT - Stand corrected, Site 2 loud and clear, Con+ for me still
And I'm not pulling in either Wyoming Co site, but, that's not abnormal for me, they are hit or miss for me.
EDIT - Stand corrected, Site 2 loud and clear, Con+ for me still
- Status
