San Francisco Zoo Employees Shocked Over Alleged Spying Scandal

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MTS2000des

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The fact is the infrastructure that you speak of is being built in front of your eyes, right here and now. The infrastructure isn't being built by Government, but all it takes is a little cooperation (or back-door'ing). At least a Government can ultimately be held accountable by the voters. What is going on right now cannot be.

Very well stated.

I find it ironic that so many folks are afraid of "the big gubment" but yet they have no problem sharing all intimate details of their lives with corporate America using Facebook, Twitter, Google, etc who are in nothing but the business of amassing, buying and selling consumer data. Not to mention all the telecom cartels who are in bed with those businesses. AT&T, Verizon, Comcast...all of them are busy making backroom deals to control every aspect of every piece of information on every man, woman and child.

All without any real government regulation to protect us. All without any oversight or accountability from anyone in authority if that information is inaccurate, misused, hacked or abused.

Your only recourse? Take em to court. Have fun with that! They have lawyers who make more in a day than most of us do in a year and will tie it up in court for a decade while your life is upside down, and you be left broke and on the street.

The elephant is indeed in the room. And it isn't some supervisor at a zoo in San Fransisco listening into the zookeepers' XPR3500s.
 

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Quote"Your only recourse? Take em to court. Have fun with that! They have lawyers who make more in a day than most of us do in a year and will tie it up in court for a decade while your life is upside down, and you be left broke and on the street.Quote"

I guess you don't follow the news too much, that very scenario is playing out right now in respect to all that private data Radio Shack collected and said would never sell. The were hoping to sell that data as part of a fire sale but at least 2 States New York, and Texas (more coming) have filed motions to stop it and said they would stop the fire sale all together if they proceeded with trying to selling of it.

If you have all those social media sites to your name, well that's on you. I have none, don't bank or shop online, have numerous programs running to stop on-line tracking. I use the internet to get info and then use the old fashioned POTS phone for an order.

The problem here is mainly the younger crowd that to get all these fancy toys you give up your privacy, YOU did it, and will reap those benefits and problems for the rest of your years. Don't think the big old government isn't in on it? Well you are wrong, they pay for those same services that any retailer would pay for, with OUR tax monies!

I go back to if you think there is nothing you can do about your privacy then you have given up, and they win. Plus YOU are then part of the problem and not the solution. I think in the case of MTS2000des (funny how you have an encryption monikor) since you sell the technology you don't want any negative conotations associated with it so keep the problems quiet as it's bad for business.

Simple solution to this type of technology, turn the radio or cell phone off, use a non-gps non-internet capable equipped wireless device then cover the mic with tape and if equipped with a camera, cover that too. Anything that can be used for good is definitly going to be used by business and government for their own agenda.
 

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I guess you don't follow the news too much, that very scenario is playing out right now in respect to all that private data Radio Shack collected and said would never sell. T

Yeah, Radio Shack is in bankruptcy. AT&T is suing them over customer data. Do you honestly think AT&T is doing this for the interest of consumers? No, they are suing because they don't want competitors (namely SPRINT) from getting customer lists. AT&T could give two turdlets less about your privacy.

If you have all those social media sites to your name, well that's on you. I have none, don't bank or shop online, have numerous programs running to stop on-line tracking. I use the internet to get info and then use the old fashioned POTS phone for an order.

You've already registered on a site, RadioReference, that knows your name, your address, your ham call...have you read the privacy policy here? Do you honestly think marketers aren't using this information? The old fashioned POTS, that's funny. That's been the most sold to marketers since the dawn of the Yellow Pages. Guess you've never got a telemarketing call in your life. The FCC data on your ham call is already in the hands of QRZ, E-ham and others, because their database is public. Better send that in and cancel right away!

The problem here is mainly the younger crowd that to get all these fancy toys you give up your privacy, YOU did it, and will reap those benefits and problems for the rest of your years.

No disagreement there. But it isn't just the "younger crowd" as you say. I know 75 year olds who can't get enough Facebook or smartphone use. Go hang out where I work sometime.

Don't think the big old government isn't in on it? Well you are wrong, they pay for those same services that any retailer would pay for, with OUR tax monies!

Of course the government benefits. Any investigator who has an IQ over 50 will check one's Facebook, Twitter and such before even getting into their car to bother looking for someone. But as you just said, people are the ones who give up the information to the PRIVATE CORPORATIONS willingly.

Plus YOU are then part of the problem and not the solution. I think in the case of MTS2000des (funny how you have an encryption monikor) since you sell the technology you don't want any negative conotations associated with it so keep the problems quiet as it's bad for business.

Okay, so you want to attack me, who you don't even know, based on my username?

I sell the technology? Hey pal, I haven't worked in a radio shop since 1997. When I did, I was a bench tech. I work in public health and have for the last 8 years. I certainly don't sell anything, let alone encryption.

Do I advocate the use of encryption? As much as you do. I don't put all my business out on front street, and I encourage others to do the same.

BTW, MTS2000s with DES-XL encryption were a top selling radio in my heyday. I serviced hundreds of them. I am very fond of the product line. You know, like someone might be fond of a particular automobile, so they might choose a screen name like PontiacGTO. It doesn't necessarily imply they are a GM executive.
 

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You are in healthcare fine, doesn't bother me either way. I don't advocate encryption either way for or against. I believe in common sense use for government not blanket style, which gives the impression of hiding something. I would prefer civilians have it and government don't, but I doubt that will happen.
True about registering here, but I doubt the Feds are parusing radio boards looking for terroists, plus the info is already with the government for licensing, Something we all have to do if we want to work, and drive and travel, and probably required in heath care too.
This subject like I said before is going the encryption rout, not going to wast any more time on it. I believe what I believe and do what I can to stay under the radar you do what you believe is best for you. Just don't try to convince me of your opinion.
 

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I'm sure somewhere they do look at boards if it has reason or peek inteterest. for all you know a few feds could be in the hobby of scanning or radio also. But i bet a few system administrators frequent radio sites. Willing to guarantee it.
 
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