With the amount of new encrypted talkgroups they've been testing on the 700MHz system I suspect a lot more than just SDPD is going to be encrypted. Only time will tell. It will be really disappointing if fire and lifeguards go encrypted. All we'll be able to do at that point is listen to the trash trucks!
SDPD New Encrypted D1 TGs?
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June 2nd is the confirmed taget date per multiple agency contacts right up to the chief. This is of course unless anything throws a wrench into the process, as one department source commented, "it is San Diego PD after all!".
The "amount of talkgroups" you are seeing as being tested would indicate, and this is confirmed by my sources, as every single POLICE related talkgroup will be NEW AND ENCRYPTED, there will be no talkgroups being converted, just new replacements, and the old talkgroups will just go dead. I am told they will be monitored for a week or so just in case someone pops out of a time machine from 2022 and needs call for help.
And the encryption goes beyond talkgroups, and will include every conventional simplex frequency as well, including SDPD Local. So Dispatches, Tacs, Investiagtions, Parking Enforcement, Events, Patch, everything...if it SDPD, IT WILL BE ENCRYPTED, and the plan is to WiFi OTAP/OTAR the old programming out ASAP. If you have a cop show you his radio, he will have * zones and non * zones indicating old and new programming, like when they switched from 800 to 700.
The reason the transition will go down like this is that the city 700 system (phase 1) doesn't have the capacity to patch everything like the RCS did for the Sheriffs Department.
And here is a link to the SDPD CAD...they came up with this in anticipation of encryption blowback from the public...it has a 1+ hour delay, and no locations. If you don't like that level of transparency, and would like to have at least a Sheriffs Calls For Service level of transparency, PLEASE by all means contact SDPD Media Relations or the Chiefs office to make this known. (that was not sarcasm, I am being serious)
San Diego Police Dispatch Online
Paul
The "amount of talkgroups" you are seeing as being tested would indicate, and this is confirmed by my sources, as every single POLICE related talkgroup will be NEW AND ENCRYPTED, there will be no talkgroups being converted, just new replacements, and the old talkgroups will just go dead. I am told they will be monitored for a week or so just in case someone pops out of a time machine from 2022 and needs call for help.
And the encryption goes beyond talkgroups, and will include every conventional simplex frequency as well, including SDPD Local. So Dispatches, Tacs, Investiagtions, Parking Enforcement, Events, Patch, everything...if it SDPD, IT WILL BE ENCRYPTED, and the plan is to WiFi OTAP/OTAR the old programming out ASAP. If you have a cop show you his radio, he will have * zones and non * zones indicating old and new programming, like when they switched from 800 to 700.
The reason the transition will go down like this is that the city 700 system (phase 1) doesn't have the capacity to patch everything like the RCS did for the Sheriffs Department.
And here is a link to the SDPD CAD...they came up with this in anticipation of encryption blowback from the public...it has a 1+ hour delay, and no locations. If you don't like that level of transparency, and would like to have at least a Sheriffs Calls For Service level of transparency, PLEASE by all means contact SDPD Media Relations or the Chiefs office to make this known. (that was not sarcasm, I am being serious)
San Diego Police Dispatch Online
Paul
I hear mid june...complete encryption
We have to make noise about it. If we don't then they'll move on to fire and everything else. If you live in the city, reach out to the mayor, your city council member and SDPD. One voice is quiet but if we have a lot of voices we will be loud. We need to make noise or there is zero chance of changing anything.
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I don't expect to stop it, but maybe we can get a delayed simulcast or prevent further encryption. It will take 5 minutes to send the message and it MAY help.
dbelleperc
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I can confirm June 2nd is switch over date. Guess I better listen to the old TRX one last weekend.
Times of San Diego
“This transition ensures SDPD can fully meet the DOJ’s requirements without compromising officer or public safety,” the department said in a statement Thursday. “Our new encrypted channels will also use a higher level of encryption than our current inquiry channel, ensuring information shared is well protected.”
SDPD to implement full encryption in radio communications
SDPD 'will transition to fully encrypted radio channels' 'as of Monday.'“This transition ensures SDPD can fully meet the DOJ’s requirements without compromising officer or public safety,” the department said in a statement Thursday. “Our new encrypted channels will also use a higher level of encryption than our current inquiry channel, ensuring information shared is well protected.”
That's an odd statement to make in a press release intended for the average news consumer.
The current SDPD press flack is a former local news stringer, former CHP trainee and current SDPD officer.
I wonder why they mention Inquiry and it's encryption?
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It has been inevitable that this would happen. So sad. I have been monitoring SDPD off and on (lived out of the area for a while) since about 1972-1973. I still have some of the old SDSP crystals, such as 159.090, 159.045 and such. It is very sad to think they won't been heard again. End of an era for law abiding citizens who truly love this hobby....
Probably to give the reporters something to put in their notebooks and to let taxpayers know their money is not just buying new radios but also "better security". In an age of regular data breaches making the news, the average reader does grasp this concept.
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AS the Declaration Of Independence says whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
Also if the radios are paid for by tax payers they belong to us they are our radios.
Also if the radios are paid for by tax payers they belong to us they are our radios.
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JoeyC
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Its official. SDPD switched over to full encryption today. 
Its official. SDPD switched over to full encryption today.
So sad…. End of an era.
Alain
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JoeyC
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The chief is only gaslighting for the uninformed public. The cities radios were already in compliance with the protection of personal information with policies to conduct all that information over the encrypted inquiry channels and other available encrypted talkgroups.
Oh, the irony here. AI is a bigger threat to society than encrypted radio communications.
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