Whether it affects you or not I think the big news is Uniden is actually responding.One is new firmware, one is not. Two threads in seven years is still not indicative of a problem.
Whether it affects you or not I think the big news is Uniden is actually responding.One is new firmware, one is not. Two threads in seven years is still not indicative of a problem.
diyaudio.com is a very informative forum which I have been a member of for years.There are plenty of online descriptions (by speaker manufacturers etc.) regarding what it sounds like when stereo speakers are wired out phase. There's also a thread on diyaudio.com called "If headphones are out of phase, can you hear it?"
But these assume a wideband high fidelity stereo audio signal with plenty of bass and treble. There is loss of bass, a "hollow" sound and poor stereo localization.
With the scanner, we are dealing instead with a narrowband mono voice audio signal so it is harder to describe the effect. It sounded hollow and poorly focused to me as soon as I put the headphones on for the first time. But YMMV. Plus I found that the signal is not 100% out of phase in that the line on the scope was (dynamically) not a straight line. I can see where some folks may not be bothered by this.
In any case, Uniden have acknowledged the problem.
They may or may not provde a fix. I suspect there is more likelyhood of a fix if the problem is fixable in the software.
Even if they don't, I'm OK using the adapter cable I made.
If it doesn't bother you, thats OK. If it does, you can make the adapter cable like I did.
The upper channel have a lot more noise between the audio bursts while the lower have silence and the result from the addition shows almost 180 degree difference between channels resulting in minimal audio and the noise from the upper channel are dominating. Maybe this anomaly also produce too much noise and a tinny sound from the internal speaker.Here's the output of the two channels when summed together.
Whether it affects you or not I think the big news is Uniden is actually responding.
I ran the stereo output of the SDS100 into Audacity on my Mac and you can clearly see that the right channel is clearly an inverted image of the left. Your solution on how to wire up stereo headphones to the SDS100 is spot on. If all you got is a passive mono speaker like I do and need to get more volume out of it then wire up your external speaker as a bridged external speaker where the tip wire coming from the SDS100 is connected to the + terminal of your external speaker and the ring wire s connected to the - terminal. You should get about twice the volume output out of your SDS100 now as you did before.I just received my new SDS100 and noticed the first time I plugged in a pair of stereo headphones that the headphone jack (which is a stereo 3.5mm TRS jack) has the 2 channels wired out of phase. There's an older thread about this from 2019 but is closed.
The same headphones receive a normal in-phase signal from my BCD160DN.
This is interesting because since 3.5mm stereo headphone jacks use a common ground for both channels, and the SDS100 is really a mono device, the headphone amp chip in there must have separate grounds for each channel. Like a quasi-balanced output.
I have emailed Uniden Customer Support asking them to forward it to their engineering team.
We'll see what they have to say. I have copied the email I sent to them below.
For now, I have constructed an adapter cable which connects the tip of the 3.5mm plug to both the tip and ring of the 3.5mm jack. This routes the output of one channel from the SDS100 to both headphone channels. It is working perfectly and sounds just fine. No straining or overload detected with multiple headphones. Here's a photo of the adapter cable:
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And here's the email I have sent to Uniden Support:
Hi,
Let me preface this by saying that I’m an audio and broadcast engineer in my professional life.
I just purchased a new SDS100 and it is a fantastic scanner! With a lot of help from YouTube videos and the Radio Reference forums, I had programming setup in Sentinel even before it arrived!
And it is working great so far. Except for one issue…
Today I tried plugging in a stereo headset (tried several to be sure and an external headphone amplifier) and find the 2 channels of the stereo headphone jack on the SDS100 are wired out of phase.
Yes, the shaft of the 1/8” stereo plugs are fully seated in the jack and the shells of the connectors are not being blocked from fully seating by the way the jack is recessed from the top surface of the unit for the rubber flap.
Also, when plugged into my BCD160DN, all of these headphones receive a normal, in phase signal.
There’s an old RR forum thread about this that concluded the same but I’m not sure anyone has notified you guys about this.
In any case, this is really disappointing for such an expensive device.
Might there be a chance this can be fixed in software?
Or is it a physical design or production issue with the actual wiring to the jack or the headphone amp reversed?
If it is physical, I’ll have to build a short phase reversal cord when I want to use headphones with the SDS100. But I really shouldn’t have to 😊
Thank you in advance for routing this to the appropriate engineering team.
Best regards,
--Mark--
I have constructed an adapter cable which connects the tip of the 3.5mm plug to both the tip and ring of the 3.5mm jack. This routes the output of one channel from the SDS100 to both headphone channels. It is working perfectly and sounds just fine. No straining or overload detected with multiple headphones.
